What Winston said was disgusting in relation to adoption. But he said it outside the House; the producers were fully aware of this before putting him in. If they were so revolted by this comment they should have not even considered him as a Housemate and given him cheap publicity. In the end they attempted a complete and utter humiliation via Emma. Why? What was the point? I'm sorry but is this tawdry shadow of Big Brother now trying to become some kind of moral compass?! Considering what they've let go INSIDE the House in the past they now sit in judgement on discretions outside it.

I felt horribly uncomfortable watching that despite understanding where the dislike was coming from. If Winston had said that comment in the House then I would say that interview was fair but he didn't. Big Brother picked him to have their pound of flesh and then some - no more, no less.

Don't get attached to any of these Housemates. I'm sure BB have more skeletons in the closet that they'll bring out when they want to get rid of someone... and no doubt we the voters will follow their wishes like sheep. Who wins? They decide. And everyone will get hauled over the coals into the bargain so they can feel superior at the same time.

I think that you've summed this up very well.

BB producers were well aware of his view before he went in.

I find it odd that the young woman on the BOTS panel now, whoever she is, is grossly offended by Winston's views, when on launch night some foul-mouthed Geordie boasted about bedding 400+ women as if they were some sort of disposable commodity. One would have thought that more offensive to her gender.

They said there will be changes but I only see the same old bs

What he said was awful, but he didn't say it inside the house. BB brought that comment into it, then used it as a stick to beat him with. Even though it happened ages before BB.

When BB invite a homo-phobe on the show, grass him up, kick him out, make him walk the plank, rounding off with an interrogation.

err, someones on a Moral crusade. Mentioning no names like.

Ben Frow

I hope they're so vociferous when Daniella comes out about her drug abuse

the whole thing was wrong it was dealt in the wrong way people need to remember that he isn't born homophobic he has learnt it from a child i was also taught these views when i was younger but luckily changed when in my teens. i didn't change because people shouted at me saying im homophobic and stuff i changed from my friends being gay and wanting them to be happy i learnt from TV documentaries of people fighting the gay away but being unable to do so.

shouting at people saying they are homophobic or racist has never worked it either makes things works or makes people mute. we need to change what this guy thinks

Evander Holyfield said he didn't agree with it IN the house and he walked away easily enough. But then it was Evander Holyfield.

Big Brother? Just watching Rylans interview and I thought this was Question Time.

Completely agree OP. Is this the same show that swept Alexander's homophobic insult towards Perez pretty much under the carpet last year?

Women can think of men as disposable as well - many a one-night stand has been forgotten about. I do agree that boasting about it is stupid but no sensible person pays any heed to a fella who's main claim to fame is having sex with lots of women. The only people it attracts are dopey people or people who are into one night stands themselves so it's kind of better that people know rather than have someone decent fall for him not knowing what he's like.

Very well put. It is along the same lines of a rape victim being on the stand and the defence lawyer brings up that time when she wore a short skirt or that time when she drank too much. Disgusting.

So yet another CBB is going to get talked about for all the wrong reasons and the winner is going to get completely overshadowed yet again

Really thought they would have learnt their lesson about stirring after all that business with Aisleyne and Farrah on SOTS, shows what one knows doesn't it

They are not going to be happy until someone is SERIOUSLY hurt in there, physically or mentally

How they have the audacity to sit there and moralise him with faux outrage knowing full well what he had said, and just use it as a stick to pelt him with just for the sake of ratings and cheap arguments

You think this show couldn't go any lower, but they are proving everyone wrong

Not that I am condoning what he has said as it was unacceptable, but for BB to sink that low and put him in there anyway AND use those comments......

I can't comment on Emma's interview, but Rylan treated it as a political interview, and made it personal. As poorly as Winston articulates his views, he seemed to be saying he has his view but doesn't hate anyone on the basis of their sexuality, feels they should be able to live as they choose even if he disagrees. And can't those of us who disagree with him be able to do so without booing, and humiliating him.

That sounds fair enough, I think Channel 5 and the producers have behaved disgracefully, they should not have put him in, and he should have been interviewed based on his behaviour as a house mate. It leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

Emma looked like she enjoyed being part of the humiliation.

As for the phrase moral compass and Channel 5 in the same sentence, that's almost funny. They really sank to a new low.

Yes, but some people are so insanely indoctrinated that change is difficult. And like it or not, things like racism and homophobia get people's backs up and people get passionate about it.

People get booed for their behaviour all the time. This isn't anything new.

I'm glad your views change, but for so many they don't. And if you want to say something as vile as comparing gay parents to child abusers, I think it's completely fair game.


Why? She was a coke head, she didn't accuse people of being child abusers for no good reason! If they want to vociferous about her drug abuse, the most they could attack her on is some bad acting on EastEnders when she was off her head!

He didn't just disagree though, did he? He called gay people child abusers. Even after he said he had said it "in the heat of the moment", when asked if he regretted it or withdrew it (or something to that effect) he spouted on about his "Christian views". Why shouldn't people take issue with a man calling people "child abusers" (which is about the worst thing you can possibly be) with no good reason?

As for the bits in bold - well come on, we've all heard those lines said by the most notorious of homophobes, it's akin to "I'm not a racist, but... (insert racist remark here)"

It's like Tia and the nazi uniform and things she'd said before she went into the BB house.
BB obviously knew about her before they even hired her and put her into the house.
It's exactly the same with Winston.

Two series of CBB in a row and the first housemate has gone based mainly on what they have said or done a long time before even entering the house.

Channel 5 hypocrisy on this one does beggar belief. The stuff that they let people get away with in the house when it suits them and when it's their favoured ones. Not condoning Winston's comments or views in any way, but compare and contrast with some of the verbal bullying and disgusting behaviour of previous series that ch5 are quite happy to whip up and do nothing to stop.

And the ridiculous moral high ground that Emma tried to claim in the OTT interview? Ludicrously fake and overblown.

Poor start to a poor series with the poorest selection of 'celebs' yet. At least Winston got one thing right in his interview - it's work, and he's got out with his money quickly than any of the other muppets in there.

No he did not call gay people child abusers.

It makes me angry when people deliberately misquote something as important an issue as this is.
He said that same sex parenting was like child abuse, which could quite well be a criticism of the adoption system.
He won't mean that same sex parents are going to abuse the child (in that way), he'll be talking about the development of the child.

No need to make an example of him tbh. Homophobia, imo, is a generational thing. It's dying of natural causes.

If anyone's going to set examples it shouldn't be a mindless show like BB.

She's also friends with a racist..........

Yep, the patterns quite clear by now.

Ken Morley
Ron Atkinson
Tia
Winston

There's always a fall guy

If you genuinely feel the producers working on *this* series have such bad intentions, you should probably tune out before it gets worse as you predict. No point watching if you feel that strongly. I certainly wouldn't!

Nothing unfair about it for me. When Winston made a comment like he did unprompted on his VT, i.e. within the confines of the reality TV show he was appearing on, he lost any right he might have had to coast through the series without his views being exposed and challenged as appropriate.

Evil won't know that it's evil, it will see itself as the good guy.

So, how the interview go with some of the others.
Kristina, congratulations on your pregnancy, when did you decide to tell the nation, was it after the nominations were announced? And did the daddy's wife find out at the same time as the viewers.

Your current partner was living with his wife when you got together, as was your previous one. Both left their wives for you. Explain yourself.

Then we have the housemate who had sex on TV, will she have to explain herself.

And two addicts later, we get the guy who boasts about having sex with over 400 women, does he think he should come with a health warning.

Come on Emma and Rylan, if you have decided to take the moral high ground over their behaviour before they came into the house, will you use the same tone as you did with Winston?

I won't be watching tonight after yesterday's display. Will I return? Maybe the pull will get too much; I don't know.

In relation to the interview, if they challenged what Winston said on his VT that's fine; it's part of the confines on the show. But they dredged something from OUTSIDE the House, turned it into part of the task so his place in the House would become untenable then allowed the post eviction interviews to be dominated by it. Don't get me wrong, it was a horrible thing to say but the producers knew about it before he entered and decided to have 'fun' with it rather than ditch him from the outset. I recall someone (it may have been yourself) say that he had 'late replacement' written all over him... they had 15 other Housemates, why did they need another??? They could have just gone ahead without a sixteenth.