Role reversal? Isn't that what you're trying to prove with this supposed double standard?

Since your own feeble brain needs it spelling out, it's not a double standard. They are two different situations with different contexts and aims. It's either stupid or disingenuous to suggest that they are analogous. Winston was perving on Nancy without invitation or provocation, simply because he thought he was entitled to. Rylan, on the other hand, was being camp around Winston in response to Winston's provocation, to his public homophobic boasts and sleazy behaviour. It was a rhetorical device, he was giving him a taste of his own medicine. Funny how often irony passes the bigoted dumb-arses by. Also, since you didn't notice, alpha male Winston didn't object to any this behaviour. On the contrary, he was kissing Rylan's arse for the duration of the show, but white knight away if it makes you feel better.

No it was BB that bought up the whole issue so how on earth you can blame Winston for provoking this?!

Clarke was given his script which was written days ago.

Whether or not you think Rylan was acting in response to provocation, or was the one doing the provoking, do we really want to see this sort of thing from a professional presenter? Professionalism and keeping your cool just gone out of the window now has it?

BB made Winston sleaze over women in the house? BB made him reiterate his homophobic comments? BB obviously orchestrate the whole thing, but that doesn't let Winston off the hook one bit.

You're changing the goal posts now re the bib. Rylan/Emma's beef was about his views on homosexuality and it was BB that bought that up in the task bringing up what the housemates might have done in the past and did the house mates think it was true or not or something like that.

It was obvious they set Winston up for the controversy to try and get ratings out of it all, I wonder if those really offended by Winston have realised this?

Yes. If someone has unacceptable views on homosexuality, just don't invite him on the programme.

If you think sexuality is a lifestyle choice and think gay people shouldn't be able to adopt then it is homophobic.

People's sexuality is who they are. It's not up for debate and it's not a matter of opinion. Anyone who says they don't agree with gay people and it's their opinion is talking homophobic nonsense. You can't have an opinion as to whether you agree with how someone is born

Winston could have sung a line or two of 'Don't you look good on the dance floor'

Who was that young lad who pranced around in a thong in an earlier civilian BB to taunt another anti gay house mate?

Not a Winston fan but I do have an issue with the way Channel 5/Big Brother carry on singling out people for humiliation- it makes them as obnoxious as the people they're humiliating .

This is Big Brother - it's not Newsnight. What Winston was said was horribly offensive to many and it's only right that Rylan stuck up for his views.

Not enough people in the media do that these days.

I agree 100% with the BIB imo Rylan was a disgrace last night and was on a points scoring exercise that made him look like an idiot.

So what happened to the je suis Charlie mob then?

When the Charlie Hebdo mob were insulting muslims, it was ok, and the everyone wore je suis charlie T shirts to stand up for free speech.

Now it seems free speech is only allowed if it is majority rule. What a load of BS.

Either we have free speech or we dont. If we do, then Winston can say and think what the hell he wants, if we don't then Charlie Hebdo had no right to insult muslims.

You can't have it both ways.

Who is restricting Winston's free speech? People are challenging his views which they are as entitled to do as he is to say them freely.

100% agree. Crying in front of a pussycat doll was his ticket to 'celebrity'. Says it all really for his talent and integrity.

Thats simply incorrect. Winston made the comments prior to entering the house. To clarify, BB employed his services in the knowledge he made the comments, even worse then proceeded to highlight his comments as part of a "game" within said house. They did so in the knowledge that some of his fellow housemates were gay and thus lighting the fuse on a possibly explosive situation.

If Rylan wants to take issue with anyone it should be his employers for toying with such a situation. I would also agree that Rylan made himself look like a buffoon in equal measure to Winston. His manner and actions were childish and certainly had no effect on questioning Winstons opinions, the equivalent of a child acting out following a reprimand.

I would also say that, and I'm not suggesting this was ever going to happen tbf, considering last years champagne flute incident and warring guests, it was massively foolhardy of Rylan to conduct himself the way he did.

I would stress that I don't agree with Winstons comments in any way.

That happens all the time particularly on here

What on earth is wrong with Winston being challenged about his opinions and particularly in the case of Rylan doing so when Winston is actually calling him and his partner child abusers if they adopt

I'm baffled at some of the stances I've read I must say. Winston has free speech and he used it to say gay parents are akin to child abusers and according to some on here that is where free speech should end because to challenge him on this highly emotive and upsetting view is a witch hunt

The only bully and tyrant here is Winston and he very much needs to be challenged.

Exactly. Free speech only permitted for those preaching the acceptable views.
There isn't any freedom really. We either have to like or not like something, it's childish.

Winston thinks a child given to a gay couple is being abused because as bible says marriage and sex should be between a man and woman. He doesn't believe in sex between man and woman. Do gay people accept everybody?

I do actually agree with you here. I want Winston to be challenged and I have no problem with Rylan doing this particularly with it being so personal to him. In fact I wish John could have shown a little of this passion in the House. However, you are right BB / Channel 5 are the hypocrites in this. They employed Winston because of his very dodgy stance on things and then when he acts the way he was employed to do so he gets a warning and is booted out to a hail of boos. Channel 5 / BB meanwhile rake in the money from advertisers, bathe in the viewing figures and notoriety and never have to answer for what they in fact did

I agree.

Dunno, but that reminds me of Aaron from last years BB. Removed for invading Joel's space with sexually provocative gestures. I thought that was a bit harsh tbh, then again, Aaron wasn't presenting a tv show and acting all morally superior.

Actually you're completely wrong. Where was Winston restricted from saying what he did.

Do you agree that people who don't agree with Winston have the freedom to say so.

People are banging on about how Winston seems to be stifled but are trying to stifle others themselves

And they have all said it, the housemates said it, the crowd said it Emma said it, the panel on BOTS said it, you said it, Rylan said it. Winston is just one man and said it long time ago and BB, you and all the others have brought it up again and again and again.

So what? You seem to be the under the impression that freedom of speech only applies to people with views like Winston.

Actually you got that quite right! I do believe freedom of speech should be made be more available to the minority views,

Thats what freedom of speech means . Winston has a right to say what he thinks . By the same token all named above have the right to say they dont like it . Freedom of speech allows you not only to say it once but to repeat it as often as you like .