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Do we guess Winston had more votes to stay than Nancy?
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SweetSyrup
09-01-2016
I'm curious. The sudden change in procedure. The desperation for controversy and sagging ratings. The bizarre kangaroo court.

Have to wonder.

Plus, Nancy's been on their most wanted rumour list since CBB4. They'd be livid if she left first.
SegaGamer
09-01-2016
I'm sure of it. If it was a one off then i wouldn't be so suspicious, but these kinds of things happen more than once a series these days.
Vicky.
09-01-2016
I think this.

They paid more for Nancy, they were realistically going to have to (as they wanted to from the start...) eject Winston anyway too.

This twist was very very obviously designed to make sure Winston went. It was never going to go any other way. Whereas the public vote may have. Especially with vote to save. With VTE Winston would have been guaranteed gone without the need for meddling.
erin_p
09-01-2016
No ..I would say BB always had this twist in mind when Winston was up fro the public vote .
SegaGamer
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky.:
“I think this.

They paid more for Nancy, they were realistically going to have to (as they wanted to from the start...) eject Winston anyway too.

This twist was very very obviously designed to make sure Winston went. It was never going to go any other way. Whereas the public vote may have. Especially with vote to save. With VTE Winston would have been guaranteed gone without the need for meddling.”

But why is it that this show seem's to be the only show that is allowed to get away with this ? any other show would be pulled off the air for this much meddling with the voting.

Them changing their website was more than enough for me to believe that they messed with tonights eviction.
Vicky.
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“But why is it that this show seem's to be the only show that is allowed to get away with this ? any other show would be pulled off the air for this much meddling with the voting.

Them changing their website was more than enough for me to believe that they messed with tonights eviction.”

We are too used to it to give a crap anymore?

XF and the likes do the same kind of thing, just more discreetly.

BB is extremely blatant, and then they have the gall to get the presenters to make fun of the 'conspiracy theorists' also. If I vote, I only ever do so in the final. Weekly voting is a completer waste of money as there is always a twist if the 'wrong' person looks set to go.

Heck, last year I LOVED Marc. But I could readily admit that they rigged it all for him to stay as long as possible.
SegaGamer
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“No ..I would say BB always had this twist in mind when Winston was up fro the public vote .”

What makes you think this though ? everything that happened tonight points to them meddling.

Them not telling us what the twist was until the last.
Them changing the rules on their website at the last minute.
The HM's rushing through who they had to evict, you could tell this was not planned until the very last minute too.

There is a lot of evidence that suggest's that they meddled with tonight's eviction.
21stCenturyBoy
09-01-2016
I think they wanted something to keep people interested after the half hour buffer...
p381
09-01-2016
Of course Winston got more votes than Nancy.
He may have even got more votes than Kristina as well!
Don't forget, this was a vote "to save".
Could you imagine the uproar if it was announced that he had the most votes?
It was blatantly a stitch up.
Bacon&Eggs
09-01-2016
You can trace the planning of the kangaroo court back to yesterday when they set him up with that homophobic comment. BB Planned it from the start imo.
SULLA
09-01-2016
Winston got the lowest votes.

BB just wanted to humuliate him.
Vesna
09-01-2016
Do any of the people who think he got so many votes to save actually vote to save him?

I know if I was in the UK I'd have voted for the other 2 to stay in an effort to evict him.
So no I don't believe he got more votes.

Has he ever won an election? (I've never heard of him)
erin_p
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“What makes you think this though ? everything that happened tonight points to them meddling.

Them not telling us what the twist was until the last.
Them changing the rules on their website at the last minute.
The HM's rushing through who they had to evict, you could tell this was not planned until the very last minute too.

There is a lot of evidence that suggest's that they meddled with tonight's eviction.”

They don't have to tell us when it's a vote to save.
I have no clue if they did changed the voting T&C(shame on me as I have read them of late )
The vote was "rushed" but that may have been due to the amount of Hms and time allocated before for the eviction interview took place with Emma .
I honestly believe that BB brought the guy in to create a buzz about the show via his eviction or ejection from the house...he was publicity fodder.
Bacon&Eggs
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Do any of the people who think he got so many votes to save actually vote to save him?

I know if I was in the UK I'd have voted for the other 2 to stay in an effort to evict him.
So no I don't believe he got more votes.

Has he ever won an election? (I've never heard of him)”

He was a member of a minor right-wing party called UKIP, they tried desperately to distance themselves from accusations of being a racist party. That's where Winston came in, you'd occasionally see him with UKIPs leader, proving UKIP, atleast, had one token black party member.

As a politician Winston would make a good clown, harmless enough though imo.
Vesna
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“They don't have to tell us when it's a vote to save.
I have no clue if they did changed the voting T&C(shame on me as I have read them of late )
The vote was "rushed" but that may have been due to the amount of Hms and time allocated before for the eviction interview took place with Emma .
I honestly believe that BB brought the guy in to create a buzz about the show via his eviction or ejection from the house...he was publicity fodder.”

Isn't that who he is though? By his choice.

If his wiki page is correct he's been in every political party, never won an election and basically goes about saying things that could cause offense to large groups of people.

He's no different IMO to a character like Josie Gibson. It's all about publicity and getting attention. He I believe wants and craves that and he also got paid this time for doing it. Win win for Winston. I think anyway.
Styker
09-01-2016
I think so. The wrong people were put up too but thats what happens when BB sticks its big interferring head into the house and thinks it makes things more exiting but ends up making things worse.
erin_p
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Isn't that who he is though? By his choice.

If his wiki page is correct he's been in every political party, never won an election and basically goes about saying things that could cause offense to large groups of people.

He's no different IMO to a character like Josie Gibson. It's all about publicity and getting attention. He I believe wants and craves that and he also got paid this time for doing it. Win win for Winston. I think anyway.”

No I just think the guy is deluded... he believes his own BS .
Arthur_B
09-01-2016
I'd say, very confidently, that Winston received more votes to stay than Nancy (Kristina I believe had the most votes). With the complaints to OFCOM having already amounted, they couldn't risk someone as controversial as Winston staying in (which makes them look stupid for booking him in the first place). So a last minute, desperate twist had to be concocted.

What they should do is refund everyone who voted to save Winston, as they (or anyone else for that matter) weren't aware of the twist when voting. As it was implied that it was a standard "vote to save" eviction, then if Winston did receive more votes to stay than Nancy, then the people who voted for him have been conned.
Eurostar
09-01-2016
This twist was the dodgiest part of the entire evening. If people voted to keep Winston out of last place in a three vote, they have every reason to feel ripped off by the producers.
noodkleopatra
09-01-2016
Of course he didn't. Didn't you hear the boos when he entered, never mind the boos he got when he left? The entire crowd were screaming for him to go during the Live. There's no way possible that he had the most, or even the second most votes, to stay.
Eurostar
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“I'd say, very confidently, that Winston received more votes to stay than Nancy (Kristina I believe had the most votes). With the complaints to OFCOM having already amounted, they couldn't risk someone as controversial as Winston staying in (which makes them look stupid for booking him in the first place). So a last minute, desperate twist had to be concocted.

What they should do is refund everyone who voted to save Winston, as they (or anyone else for that matter) weren't aware of the twist when voting. As it was implied that it was a standard "vote to save" eviction, then if Winston did receive more votes to stay than Nancy, then the people who voted for him have been conned.”

Absolutely correct. Conducting a public vote when the producers had already decided that Winston would be evicted come hell or high water is bordering on fraudulent. If they wanted him out, they should simply have removed him from the house, not conned the voters.
Eurostar
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by noodkleopatra:
“Of course he didn't. Didn't you hear the boos when he entered, never mind the boos he got when he left? The entire crowd were screaming for him to go during the Live. There's no way possible that he had the most, or even the second most votes, to stay.”

Why the bizarre twist then? It's obvious that none of the HMs liked him or would vote to save him.....why not just a regular eviction?
09beyoncefan
09-01-2016
I expect either way the twist was for Winston, they know exactly what they're doing. It was either a last minute thing to make sure he was gone because Nancy was looking like going, or they chose to do it as soon as Winston was up just to maximise his chances of going.
Eurostar
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by 09beyoncefan:
“I expect either way the twist was for Winston, they know exactly what they're doing. It was either a last minute thing to make sure he was gone because Nancy was looking like going, or they chose to do it as soon as Winston was up just to maximise his chances of going.”

The former for certain. The latter leaves them open to accusations of trying to rig the eviction.
Vicky.
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by noodkleopatra:
“Of course he didn't. Didn't you hear the boos when he entered, never mind the boos he got when he left? The entire crowd were screaming for him to go during the Live. There's no way possible that he had the most, or even the second most votes, to stay.”

Vote to save...often keeps the more controversial (or hated) characters.

If it was vote to evict he would definitely have had the most votes, no question. but with vote to save, there is a chance..and a rather large one at that, that he had more votes than Nancy did.
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