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Do we guess Winston had more votes to stay than Nancy?
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mickmars
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“He was a member of a minor right-wing party called UKIP, they tried desperately to distance themselves from accusations of being a racist party. That's where Winston came in, you'd occasionally see him with UKIPs leader, proving UKIP, atleast, had one token black party member.

As a politician Winston would make a good clown, harmless enough though imo.”

The UKIP that are Britains 3rd most popular party,they got almost 4 million votes in last years election ?

If you hate them,that's fine,but don't lie about them to suit your own agenda eh
Bacon&Eggs
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by mickmars:
“The UKIP that are Britains 3rd most popular party,they got almost 4 million votes in last years election ?”

Good point but it translates to 12 % of the vote and 1 MP from 650. In terms of popularity 1 MP doesn't seem fair does it, however in terms of power they are a minor party.

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“If you hate them,that's fine,but don't lie about them to suit your own agenda eh”

Quick with them accusations aren't you. hmm!
wotnot
09-01-2016
Very likely he did. Why do people even bother to vote nowadays? lol
BabelBrook
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by p381:
“Of course Winston got more votes than Nancy.
He may have even got more votes than Kristina as well!
Don't forget, this was a vote "to save".
Could you imagine the uproar if it was announced that he had the most votes?
It was blatantly a stitch up.”

He can't have. While the "twist" may have been contrived if he actually won the vote and they placed him in the bottom two that would leave C5 open to a hefty fine.
KT_Dog
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky.:
“Vote to save...often keeps the more controversial (or hated) characters.

If it was vote to evict he would definitely have had the most votes, no question. but with vote to save, there is a chance..and a rather large one at that, that he had more votes than Nancy did.”

I agree. When there's a 'villain' involved in a vote to save people who passionately want them evicted end up having to dilute their save votes by spreading it across a minimum of two other housemates.

BB know this of course... Which is why I'm inclined to think everything played out legitimately last night. If their 'plan' had been to get winston out then they'd probably have made it vote to evict from the off.
Leeah
09-01-2016
Yes. BB shady as hell!
Trumbles
09-01-2016
My cynicism for BB manipulation is boundless - I don't doubt for a second that they'd rig any eviction if they really wanted to.

But I'm struggling to believe that Winston didn't get the fewest votes. The idea that VTS saves the 'controversial' characters is oversimplified – controversial characters are only voted for over bland ones if there are people who genuinely like them (or at least fancy them or find them incredibly funny).

Winston went in with no fan base. He's less recognisable than Nancy or Kristina and he's never come close to winning in any election he's stood in. Hell, he lost his deposit in one of them. He had no natural voting base either having infuriated gay people and women, whilst not being in any way fancy-able or funny.

My guess is that they simply threw in a twist in order to add drama to an otherwise predictable and lacklustre eviction night.
biomorph04
09-01-2016
who knows. But Big Bro made an interesting tv show last night.
SegaGamer
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by biomorph04:
“who knows. But Big Bro made an interesting tv show last night.”

I thought it was a s**t tv show last night.
Cheddarcakes
09-01-2016
Of course Winston had more votes to save he was pure revolting entertainment, a car crash on our tv screens. BB is a joke, Nancy is a bore
Vesna
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“He was a member of a minor right-wing party called UKIP, they tried desperately to distance themselves from accusations of being a racist party. That's where Winston came in, you'd occasionally see him with UKIPs leader, proving UKIP, atleast, had one token black party member.

As a politician Winston would make a good clown, harmless enough though imo.”

So basically a British version of Alan Keyes.

Originally Posted by erin_p:
“No I just think the guy is deluded... he believes his own BS .”

Does he? I guess he does but I also think he's just willing to do whatever for the attention and for money.
mysty211
09-01-2016
They probably just needed to make sure Winston was voted out could you imagine how many calls to ofcom would be made if he hadn't left. Then maybe he'd be ejected at some point from how he was acting so they probably made it certain that Winston would leave.
But Big brother dug their own whole they brought up that child abuse comment they should've never done that in the first place. It would've been better for somehow Winston ended up on discussion randomly rather than a forced debate. But even without the comment Winston would've probably got complaints to ofcom over his behaviour towards the women .
TTTango
09-01-2016
When the series is finished BB need to release the voting figures like they do on the ITV shows.

Unless this happens and C5 can prove otherwise, people will think Winston came 2nd in last nights vote, hence the twist.
Angie_Plasty
09-01-2016
It certainly feels like he had more votes with that crazy OTT kangaroo court, which was designed to deliver only one verdict.

Shame on Jeremy for being Henry Fonda in '15 Angry Housemates'.

That said, BB was always going to do this to Winston, and made sure they did, irrespective of whether more people voted to save Winston than Nancy.
Barracute
09-01-2016
I love how there is always so much suspicion on here! Completely ignoring the obvious !

How anyone culd posssibly think that Winston got more votes then Nancy - after THAT comment and THAT warning from BB, is insane? What had Nancy done or said to compare with that ? Given the landside of anti Winston feeling inside (even before the 13-1 vte the feeling was clear) and outside (the entire audience booed him thoughout and he was odds on with the bookies to go) the house, where ever you looked (any forum polls for instance)- it is absurd to even consider it!!???!?
Kaitel
09-01-2016
I'm glad to see so many here have seen through this obvious set up of poor ol Winston by Big Brother, I was worried the entire public bought this sham.
Big Brother yet again rigs the result to it's own agenda, obviously planned from the start, the housemates would never even been aware of this out of context comment if they hadn't plastered it on a board to literally frame Winston, they knew the attention seeking housemates would have a field day acting outraged for media political correctness points.
Had Winston treated any of the housemates badly or disrespectfully, no. If his comment is so offensive than BB shouldn't have given it air time by repeating it themselves.
All planned from at least the inception of this dumb task if not from the start, otherwise they would have changed the housemates voting when they could see it was gonna be a forgone conclusion.
Housemates so outraged at somebody having an opinion different to theirs but totally fine for them to all gang up and bully one guy, all sanctioned and encouraged by Big Brother. I lost a lot of respect for Emma too for giving him such a hard time after they had already slaughtered him one by one, although I expect they instructed her to grill him to the max, but still, what a farce!!!!
fredster
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“He can't have. While the "twist" may have been contrived if he actually won the vote and they placed him in the bottom two that would leave C5 open to a hefty fine.”

Would they care? Channel 5 and BB producers don't give a toss what the public think why would they be bothered by a fine for a blatant twist.
TTTango
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“I love how there is always so much suspicion on here! Completely ignoring the obvious !

How anyone culd posssibly think that Winston got more votes then Nancy - after THAT comment and THAT warning from BB, is insane? What had Nancy done or said to compare with that ? Given the landside of anti Winston feeling inside (even before the 13-1 vte the feeling was clear) and outside (the entire audience booed him thoughout and he was odds on with the bookies to go) the house, where ever you looked (any forum polls for instance)- it is absurd to even consider it!!???!?”

I would agree with you if it was a vote to Evict, but it was a Vote to Save, and some people may have saved him as he was so controversial, and they may have wanted to see more agro in the house.

Nancy never did anything either way - was very bland, and bland people usually go in a vote to save. However they go under the radar in a vote to Evict.
annie24601
09-01-2016
This twist was very dodgy as it was not announced to the public beforehand that the housemates would be choosing the evictee. And I agree it is completely unfair on the voters who vote tactically to evict the person of their choice. I'm sure BB will get away from it though by saying "Kristina got the most votes and she was safe blah blah..."

Even though I think Winston is a massive d**k, I believe this twist was unfair for anyone who voted for him, and they should be entitled to a refund.

I'm not positive that WInston received more votes than Nancy, but I think the vote was close enough to make the producers go into panic mode.
Luxray
09-01-2016
I actually think he was the bottom of the vote (though having said that it wouldn't surprise me if not). Still slightly deceitful on the part of C5 regardless.

I think they wanted to keep people interested to watch the second part of the show/the lip sync show in between.
jeanoj
09-01-2016
If the GBP can vote someone like Helen as the winner, I wouldn't be surprised if Winston's eviction was somehow rigged and he wasn't bottom in the vote. If he was, then why the need for the stupid twist as we all knew how the HM's would vote
Pices-55
09-01-2016
I would seriously doubt it, why would anyone vote for such a loathsome character. Nancy would have done quite well in the voting I think, she did very well in Strictly considering her very poor dancing.
benbeez1
09-01-2016
Nancy had more votes than Winston end of
Eurostar
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“I would seriously doubt it, why would anyone vote for such a loathsome character. Nancy would have done quite well in the voting I think, she did very well in Strictly considering her very poor dancing.”

What would be the point of introducing such a bizarre twist though? It was guaranteed that nearly everyone would vote against Winston, making the twist absolutely futile and a waste of time as a TV spectacle. The only thing that makes sense is if Winston wasn't bottom in the voting.
SegaGamer
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“Nancy had more votes than Winston end of ”

You have no proof, so not end of. People are right to be suspicous with what went on last night and there are many reason's to believe that Winston got more votes than Nancy.
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