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Spin (Les Hommes de L'Ombre)
Couldn't find any threads on this French series so I thought I'd create one. Did anyone else watch the first two episodes on More 4 last night? Entertaining enough start, a few familiar faces, and lots of typical French film noir style cynicism about politicians and the manipulations of their PR people. Looked good, will be watching next week.
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Yep, I watched it, very enjoyable.
Though as far as the subtitles go, I can't help thinking that 'political coverup' would have been a better translation than 'state falsehood' which is not an expression I've ever heard anyone use! |
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Spin/Spiral....C4 trying to notionally link it to BBC4's hit show, what with Fitoussi as one of the leads? I wonder if the other lead's resemblance to Nixon is just coincidence?
As I said on another thread, great start but they really should think about continuing with the double-bills instead of single eps and FGS reduce the bloody ads! |
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Yep, I watched it, very enjoyable.
Though as far as the subtitles go, I can't help thinking that 'political coverup' would have been a better translation than 'state falsehood' which is not an expression I've ever heard anyone use!
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Enjoyable, and having the main rivalry between two spin doctors is a nice twist. Not as sharp as Borgen, though, and the female characters are noticeably less well-written than Borgen's.
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I caught it on Channel 4 on Friday night and went to series link it but cant see the next episode on Friday on Channel 4.
Any idea what they are donig with it? Thanks |
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Isn't it on More4
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The Men In The Shadows sounds better than Spin through; more dramatic.
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Shadow Men would be even better.
Spin is just banal. |
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I did think about watching it, but then I got trumped by Mr Alley wanting to watch Super Hauliers or some such on Quest (have to admit I also found it strangely fascinating viewing.....
).I'll try to catch up with Spin at some point though. |
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It looks gripping; I have it recorded and am waiting for an evening on my own to settle in and enjoy at leisure.
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Gregory Fitoussi is SO PRETTY.
I have nothing more cerebral to add.
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Shadow Men would be even better.
Spin is just banal. A good start, though I too would prefer double bills. |
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Gregory Fitoussi is SO PRETTY.
I have nothing more cerebral to add. ![]()
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Couldn't find any threads on this French series so I thought I'd create one. Did anyone else watch the first two episodes on More 4 last night? Entertaining enough start, a few familiar faces, and lots of typical French film noir style cynicism about politicians and the manipulations of their PR people. Looked good, will be watching next week.
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Yep, I watched it, very enjoyable.
Though as far as the subtitles go, I can't help thinking that 'political coverup' would have been a better translation than 'state falsehood' which is not an expression I've ever heard anyone use! Quote:
The Men In The Shadows sounds better than Spin through; more dramatic.
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The Men In The Shadows sounds better than Spin through; more dramatic.
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Hasn't part two just finished on More4 after part 1 last Friday?
Aren't they using that phrase because the Prime Minister is lying by claiming the security situation is worse than it really is and blaming immigrants so he can use his control of government surveillance machine and emergency powers to scare people into voting for him? Agreed. |
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I wonder if I missed one. Part 4 tonight.
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I think it's great viewing - watched the first three episodes in a row earlier this week but have not seen tonight's yet.
I think that anybody who enjoyed Borgen (and Spiral) would enjoy this programme. But why call it bloody 'Spin' and not 'The Men in the Shadows' More 4? It is a bit bloody obvious from the titles at the beginning - and I can't even speak French.
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Nathalie Baye.
Milf. That is all. |
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I prefer 'The Men in the shadows' translation. Sound more French, lol, than 'Spin' which sounds like Tony Blair has come back to haunt us
. The actor who plays the French PM does an excellent job. The character is one miserable git and well creepy with it
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She's 67
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I wonder if I missed one. Part 4 tonight.
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Enjoyable, and having the main rivalry between two spin doctors is a nice twist. Not as sharp as Borgen, though, and the female characters are noticeably less well-written than Borgen's.
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I prefer 'The Men in the shadows' translation. Sound more French, lol, than 'Spin' which sounds like Tony Blair has come back to haunt us
. The actor who plays the French PM does an excellent job. The character is one miserable git and well creepy with it ![]() And re Tony Blair... did you see the Tony Blair biography displayed prominently in one of the bookcases last week? ![]() Anyway: I don't think it's totally about spin either - it's more about this State Falsehood - which also seems poorly translated to me - but I suppose state-sanctioned coverup is no better. Is that the spin, though - the PM spinning lone, mentally unstable, despairing suicide bomber vs the more electorally useful al-Qaeda? I think some of the translation has been a bit suspect. I can't catch everything that is said but I sometimes get a different impression from the spoken dialogue compared to the sub-titles. The PM reminds me somewhat of Mitterand though I wonder if we're seeing what life with Dominique Strauss-Khan could have been like. ![]() Cultural note: if anyone is wondering why Kapita was given a car for his birthday when he doesn't have a licence, in France there are speed-limited (30mph) vehicles - sans permis / without licence - which people who've never passed their test or had their licence taken away can legally drive. I cannot believe a super-cool spin doctor would ever be seen driving one, though. But it made me laugh. |
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Cultural note: if anyone is wondering why Kapita was given a car for his birthday when he doesn't have a licence, in France there are speed-limited (30mph) vehicles - sans permis / without licence - which people who've never passed their test or had their licence taken away can legally drive. I cannot believe a super-cool spin doctor would ever be seen driving one, though. But it made me laugh. Thank you
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And re Tony Blair... did you see the Tony Blair biography displayed prominently in one of the bookcases last week?