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Rhumbatugger
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“The reason I think he was performing was because he waited until he had a camera in front of him...John is a constant guest on BBBOTS and knows what he is doing.”


I thought they had cameras on them all the time.
paralax
09-01-2016
In an attempt to win points with the voters they all overreacted. Winston's views are his own, shared by some but not the majority, he has no ability to influence people to agree with him, no power to change the law and is therefore irrelevant.

By overreacting, they give him more importance than he deserves, John was acting- badly, not because he is so insecure that the views of a narrow minded, man of low intelligence effect his life, but to gain popularity in a failing reality show.
roseblue1
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I thought they had cameras on them all the time.”

Of course they do...more reason as to why did he not give his speech in the house then coming to the Diary room.
roseblue1
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by paralax:
“In an attempt to win points with the voters they all overreacted. Winston's views are his own, shared by some but not the majority, he has no ability to influence people to agree with him, no power to change the law and is therefore irrelevant.

By overreacting, they give him more importance than he deserves, John was acting- badly, not because he is so insecure that the views of a narrow minded, man of low intelligence effect his life, but to gain popularity in a failing reality show.”

Agree...
Kabuki
09-01-2016
Honestly it's getting to the point where people can't voice their opinion for fear of being called a bigot, racist or homophobe. For me atleast, whether you are straight or gay, it doesn't matter, I treat people as they come, sexual orientation, skin colour or religious belief doesn't concern me, only how you treat me and others, that is what's important.
roseblue1
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Kabuki:
“Honestly it's getting to the point where people can't voice their opinion for fear of being called a bigot, racist or homophobe. For me atleast, whether you are straight or gay, it doesn't matter, I treat people as they come, sexual orientation, skin colour or religious belief doesn't concern me, only how you treat me and others, that is what's important.”

I think those that do the accusing of people being bigots racist or homophobes actually are the ones who have the biggest problems.
GrozzyGirl
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by daisiesfan:
“Not really helping what? How is John representing the whole of the gay community?
Was Winston representing the whole of the black community?”

I think you're being argumentative for no good reason to be frank, deliberately misrepresenting what has been said to advance your desire to discuss 'Gayness' rather than 'Hammy Insincerity', which is the actual topic.

But to some extent he is a representative of the gay community as Winston represents UKIP and gemma represents Essex girls. Because that's how some people view it and form opinions. Some BUT not all, and I'm not advocating it!

However I'm not for a moment suggesting that, for me, he represents gay men, but he does represent himself as a dreadfully desperate old lovey.
detroit city
09-01-2016
Scared the shit out of me with that hat on, i thought Freddy Kruger was coming to get me.
Penny Crayon
09-01-2016
I think they were all a bit shocked at what Winston said - it was rather extreme.

What was more shocking though was his complete inability to explain his views - I found it extremely embarrassing to watch. This guy sees himself as a politician and a 'voice of the people'. I was absolutely appalled by his sheer ignorance and total lack of self awareness.

It was all rather sad and a bit pathetic.
erin_p
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“I think you're being argumentative for no good reason to be frank, deliberately misrepresenting what has been said to advance your desire to discuss 'Gayness' rather than 'Hammy Insincerity', which is the actual topic.

But to some extent he is a representative of the gay community as Winston represents UKIP and gemma represents Essex girls. Because that's how some people view it and form opinions. Some BUT not all, and I'm not advocating it!

However I'm not for a moment suggesting that, for me, he represents gay men, but he does represent himself as a dreadfully desperate old lovey.”

Winston got kicked out of UKIP ..that's why David's comment was funny "On behalf of UKIP ..we love you "
roseblue1
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I think they were all a bit shocked at what Winston said - it was rather extreme.

What was more shocking though was his complete inability to explain his views - I found it extremely embarrassing to watch. This guy sees himself as a politician and a 'voice of the people'. I was absolutely appalled by his sheer ignorance and total lack of self awareness.

It was all rather sad and a bit pathetic.”

'It was all rather sad and a bit pathetic' ...just a bit like John tonight.
daisiesfan
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“I think you're being argumentative for no good reason to be frank, deliberately misrepresenting what has been said to advance your desire to discuss 'Gayness' rather than 'Hammy Insincerity', which is the actual topic.

But to some extent he is a representative of the gay community as Winston represents UKIP and gemma represents Essex girls. Because that's how some people view it and form opinions. Some BUT not all, and I'm not advocating it!

However I'm not for a moment suggesting that, for me, he represents gay men, but he does represent himself as a dreadfully desperate old lovey.”

Argumentative? I was repsonding to the whole insinuation of what the gay community must think of John's behaviour, so yes there was an insinaution that he is representing the gay community. John Partridge is representing John Partridge, so to no extent is he representing anyone other than himself.
MithMarr
09-01-2016
He loves his 'Virtual Signaling' doesn't he.
GrozzyGirl
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by daisiesfan:
“Argumentative? I was repsonding to the whole insinuation of what the gay community must think of John's behaviour, so yes there was an insinaution that he is representing the gay community. John Partridge is representing John Partridge, so to no extent is he representing anyone other than himself.”

Well I disagree and I think you are not being truthful and misrepresenting even though I've been very clear.
So anyway, we shan't speak again.
Good night.
erin_p
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by MithMarr:
“He loves his 'Virtual Signaling' doesn't he.”

Daft question but what is that ?
honeythewitch
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Daft question but what is that ?”

Virtue signalling, I think.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i...ver-the-world/
BeeBumble
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“CUT! John could you just turn your head a little more to the right when you wipe the tear and a little more lip tremble on the "don't worry about love" line.



I think this ^^^ comments trend is the most banal there has been for sometime
It means, I disagree but I have no credible argument so I'm going to try patronising (but in the least impressive way).

Do feel free to carry on as you please”

Or it means this is a Big Brother forum not a UN debate on nuclear weapons so I don't really need to come up with an insightful long winded intelligent response to say I disagree.

Also don't say I'm patronising then try and tell me what I mean.
erin_p
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Virtue signalling, I think.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i...ver-the-world/”


To my astonishment and delight, the phrase ‘virtue signalling’ has become part of the English language. I coined the phrase in an article here in The Spectator (18 April) in which I described the way in which many people say or write things to indicate that they are virtuous. Sometimes it is quite subtle. By saying that they hate the Daily Mail or Ukip, they are really telling you that they are admirably non-racist, left-wing or open-minded. One of the crucial aspects of virtue signalling is that it does not require actually doing anything virtuous. It does not involve delivering lunches to elderly neighbours or staying together with a spouse for the sake of the children. It takes no effort or sacrifice at all.

I see ...Cheers
Melax
10-01-2016
That performance was his audition piece that landed him the Eastenders gig.
Melax
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“I think those that do the accusing of people being bigots racist or homophobes actually are the ones who have the biggest problems.”

They always want to BAN a lot of things as well, which betrays their true authoritarian nature.
academia
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by detroit city:
“Scared the shit out of me with that hat on, i thought Freddy Kruger was coming to get me.”

He made me laugh because he looked so ridiiculous and I had the impression he thought he looked rather fetching.
Penny Crayon
10-01-2016
In life it's inevitable that we don't all share the same opinions on things. I think we can all accept that. Surely sensible/rational people know when it's OK to voice an opinion and when to keep quiet. That's not being sneaky or underhand it's just how things are (especially in the BB house) if you want to get along.

As dense as Winston appears to be it's clear that he understood that - BB were wrong to throw his opinions out there for everyone to leap on. If the conversation had come about in the natural course of things then so be it,

I abhor Winston's opinions on gay adoption - I can't understand what he's getting at or why he would say that. On the other hand - I abhor that Big Brother put him in that position - he isn't bright enough or articulate enough to defend himself and it was a deliberate act to humiliate and ridicule him.
dekaf
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Wow at this thread just wow.”

It's not that impressive, is it?
yogacats
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“In our house we all laughed when he "wished that people like that didnt exist". With a straight face! ”

Charming innit???
yogacats
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“In life it's inevitable that we don't all share the same opinions on things. I think we can all accept that. Surely sensible/rational people know when it's OK to voice an opinion and when to keep quiet. That's not being sneaky or underhand it's just how things are (especially in the BB house) if you want to get along.

As dense as Winston appears to be it's clear that he understood that - BB were wrong to throw his opinions out there for everyone to leap on. If the conversation had come about in the natural course of things then so be it,

I abhor Winston's opinions on gay adoption - I can't understand what he's getting at or why he would say that. On the other hand - I abhor that Big Brother put him in that position - he isn't bright enough or articulate enough to defend himself and it was a deliberate act to humiliate and ridicule him.”

Spot on.
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