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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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cyrilandshirley
12-08-2016
I just have to get this off my chest.

What was that absolute PIFFLE last night about all girls having a wedding portfolio by the time they're seven? That getting married is all women dream of.

Young women out there reading, this is patronising throwback BALDERDASH.

Go live your lives. Be free, be happy.

There. All better.
kwynne42
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I just have to get this off my chest.

What was that absolute PIFFLE last night about all girls having a wedding portfolio by the time they're seven? That getting married is all women dream of.

Young women out there reading, this is patronising throwback BALDERDASH.

Go live your lives. Be free, be happy.

There. All better. ”

Morning Cyrilandshirley

Nerve of of Leyla to look down on tracy, yes the Poledancing stripper who stole all of Davids money on the eve of their money that Leyla.

I wondered about that wedding book thing.
kwynne42
12-08-2016
Analysis Centrals analysis of this rather messy episode

The supposedly funny things.

1) Comedy Prison desk guard - he though he was very clever didn't he, actor desperately trying to earn himself an equity card.

2 )Lisa - original name Lisa greaser, bet she got bullied horribly at school, why would she want to go back to that? why not go to Clegg after her Auntie if she wanted one.

The Inadvertently Funny things at least Kwynne hopes so

3Andy escaping from Jail, did Rakesh help or did he seek to get Chrissie of his back by getting him in even more trouble?

4) david forgetting to tell Tracy dad Tracy name so dad didn't know which Daughter he meant - silly David Stupid David

5) All the Dingles ganging up Lisa to defend the Dingle name.


The Ok To quite Good parts of the Episode

6) Belle and her extreme twitchyness played great by the actress how anyone has worked out Belle is very ill is beyond me.

7) Bailey the terrible Doctor has now gone native and actually become a dingle.

8) Chrissie the Bond Villain get more evil by the episode sadly her her get sillier by the episode, now if you turned her hair purple she would look like a spce pilot from Sci Fi drama UFO

9) Rakesh she has go you

10) Nerve of Leyla the Stripping Poledancer and thief of Davids Wedding money to look down on tracy.

11) Tracy dear David would be lucky if you kicked him in his only remaining ball for going behind your back like that

12) Vanessa - Every girl dreamed of making wedding books did they? really?

13 Victoria hair has gone rogue again, the Hair Dept need firing no character has hair that suits them.

14) Andy run, run far away.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 13

Lachlan shoot him thinking he was his grandfather, he dies.

ways How to Kill Marlon part 14

He falls in the river and drowns just like his uncle Shadrach, its as simple as that.
Oldnjaded
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I just have to get this off my chest.

What was that absolute PIFFLE last night about all girls having a wedding portfolio by the time they're seven? That getting married is all women dream of.

Young women out there reading, this is patronising throwback BALDERDASH.

Go live your lives. Be free, be happy.

There. All better. ”

Lol, it was ridiculous wasn't it? Back in my day young ladies did have something called a 'bottom drawer', where they stored things they collected for their wedding/married life etc, but they didn't even start one of those until they were officially engaged.
Alleycat666
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I just have to get this off my chest.

What was that absolute PIFFLE last night about all girls having a wedding portfolio by the time they're seven? That getting married is all women dream of.

Young women out there reading, this is patronising throwback BALDERDASH.

Go live your lives. Be free, be happy.

There. All better. ”

Well said cyril! What a load of twaddle
Alleycat666
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis Centrals analysis of this rather messy episode

The supposedly funny things.

1) Comedy Prison desk guard - he though he was very clever didn't he, actor desperately trying to earn himself an equity card.

2 )Lisa - original name Lisa greaser, bet she got bullied horribly at school, why would she want to go back to that? why not go to Clegg after her Auntie if she wanted one.

The Inadvertently Funny things at least Kwynne hopes so

3Andy escaping from Jail, did Rakesh help or did he seek to get Chrissie of his back by getting him in even more trouble?

4) david forgetting to tell Tracy dad Tracy name so dad didn't know which Daughter he meant - silly David Stupid David

5) All the Dingles ganging up Lisa to defend the Dingle name.


The Ok To quite Good parts of the Episode

6) Belle and her extreme twitchyness played great by the actress how anyone has worked out Belle is very ill is beyond me.

7) Bailey the terrible Doctor has now gone native and actually become a dingle.

8) Chrissie the Bond Villain get more evil by the episode sadly her her get sillier by the episode, now if you turned her hair purple she would look like a spce pilot from Sci Fi drama UFO

9) Rakesh she has go you

10) Nerve of Leyla the Stripping Poledancer and thief of Davids Wedding money to look down on tracy.

11) Tracy dear David would be lucky if you kicked him in his only remaining ball for going behind your back like that

12) Vanessa - Every girl dreamed of making wedding books did they? really?

13 Victoria hair has gone rogue again, the Hair Dept need firing no character has hair that suits them.

14) Andy run, run far away.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 13

Lachlan shoot him thinking he was his grandfather, he dies.

ways How to Kill Marlon part 14

He falls in the river and drowns just like his uncle Shadrach, its as simple as that.”

Funny things were't that funny

Inadvertently ones were quite funny

Ok to quite good:

How has nobody noticed Belle's about to snap?

Rakesh - be afraid, be very afraid - EvilMingthemercilessCarryonChrissiespacepilotfromUFO has you in her sights!

David - was even more dopey than usual

As was Andy - how could he ever have thought that running away was a good idea!
thejoyof_pat
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I just have to get this off my chest.

What was that absolute PIFFLE last night about all girls having a wedding portfolio by the time they're seven? That getting married is all women dream of.

Young women out there reading, this is patronising throwback BALDERDASH.

Go live your lives. Be free, be happy.

There. All better. ”

I hate to be a traitor to my gender but some woman can't compute other woman who haven't thought about their wedding day or **gasp** don't want to get married. Im sick of being told i will change my mind despite being wuth lovely partner for over 2 years. Also, Why can't David just be with Tracey as they are now? Why does he need a service, party and a contract. They're together, love each other, live together...why are those things not enough?
ianradioian
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Morning Cyrilandshirley

Nerve of of Leyla to look down on tracy, yes the Poledancing stripper who stole all of Davids money on the eve of their money that Leyla.

I wondered about that wedding book thing.”

That's all conveniently forgotten about, now
ianradioian
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat:
“I hate to be a traitor to my gender but some woman can't compute other woman who haven't thought about their wedding day or **gasp** don't want to get married. Im sick of being told i will change my mind despite being wuth lovely partner for over 2 years. Also, Why can't David just be with Tracey as they are now? Why does he need a service, party and a contract. They're together, love each other, live together...why are those things not enough?”

Yep. Totally agree.
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis Centrals analysis of this rather messy episode

The supposedly funny things.

2 )Lisa - original name Lisa greaser, bet she got bullied horribly at school, why would she want to go back to that? why not go to Clegg after her Auntie if she wanted one.

The Inadvertently Funny things at least Kwynne hopes so

3Andy escaping from Jail, did Rakesh help or did he seek to get Chrissie of his back by getting him in even more trouble?

5) All the Dingles ganging up Lisa to defend the Dingle name.


The Ok To quite Good parts of the Episode

6) Belle and her extreme twitchyness played great by the actress how anyone has worked out Belle is very ill is beyond me.

8) Chrissie the Bond Villain get more evil by the episode sadly her her get sillier by the episode, now if you turned her hair purple she would look like a spce pilot from Sci Fi drama UFO

10) Nerve of Leyla the Stripping Poledancer and thief of Davids Wedding money to look down on tracy.

11) Tracy dear David would be lucky if you kicked him in his only remaining ball for going behind your back like that

13 Victoria hair has gone rogue again, the Hair Dept need firing no character has hair that suits them.

14) Andy run, run far away.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 13

Lachlan shoot him thinking he was his grandfather, he dies.

ways How to Kill Marlon part 14

He falls in the river and drowns just like his uncle Shadrach, its as simple as that.”

2. Was that the first time they mentioned Lisa's maiden name on the show?

3. I think Rakesh actually felt bad...for once.

5. I thought that was sweet, they all really love Lisa

6. This reminds me of One Life To Live, the main character Viki had mulitiple personalities since the show started in 1968, however even in 2001 when her alter Niki Smith reemerged for the 1,000,000,000th time no one seemed to notice that prim and proper Viki was acting wild and dressing like Beth on Corrie. So you can expect this trend to continue with Bell for years to come.

8. LOL Chrissie did look ridiculous, and that power suit she had on looked like it was left over from Dynasty's wardrobe. This makeover has been an epic fail.

10. Does Leyla still want David? Cuz it seemed like it to me

11. LMAO! You wrong for that.

13. I disagree, Chas and Kerry's hair has been on fleek

14. I wonder if he will go hide out with Debbie and the kids in France.
Nico_D
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“2. Was that the first time they mentioned Lisa's maiden name on the show?

3. I think Rakesh actually felt bad...for once.

5. I thought that was sweet, they all really love Lisa

6. This reminds me of One Life To Live, the main character Viki had mulitiple personalities since the show started in 1968, however even in 2001 when her alter Niki Smith reemerged for the 1,000,000,000th time no one seemed to notice that prim and proper Viki was acting wild and dressing like Beth on Corrie. So you can expect this trend to continue with Bell for years to come.

8. LOL Chrissie did look ridiculous, and that power suit she had on looked like it was left over from Dynasty's wardrobe. This makeover has been an epic fail.

10. Does Leyla still want David? Cuz it seemed like it to me

11. LMAO! You wrong for that.

13. I disagree, Chas and Kerry's hair has been on fleek

14. I wonder if he will go hide out with Debbie and the kids in France.”

14. You would have to several diffrent kinds of stupid to do that...so he probably will. If someone is on the run you would simply ask the French police to keep a close eye over Debbie and the kids over the coming months for when he turns up. That's the most intriguing thing about Andy going on the run essentially he has to give up ever seeing his kids again.
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“14. You would have to several diffrent kinds of stupid to do that...so he probably will. If someone is on the run you would simply ask the French police to keep a close eye over Debbie and the kids over the coming months for when he turns up. That's the most intriguing thing about Andy going on the run essentially he has to give up ever seeing his kids again.”

Well if Aaron was able to hide out there for two years why not Andy? Plus the kids can get a babysitter they know instead of Debbie dumping the on some random French guy, it seems like a win win to me.
Alleycat666
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“14. You would have to several diffrent kinds of stupid to do that...so he probably will. If someone is on the run you would simply ask the French police to keep a close eye over Debbie and the kids over the coming months for when he turns up. That's the most intriguing thing about Andy going on the run essentially he has to give up ever seeing his kids again.”

Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Well if Aaron was able to hide out there for two years why not Andy? Plus the kids can get a babysitter they know instead of Debbie dumping the on some random French guy, it seems like a win win to me.”

Must admit, I've been wondering whether Andy going on the run could link to Debbie's return in some way - ie he goes out and sees her and tells her what's happened and she comes back to try to help clear his name or some such?
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Must admit, I've been wondering whether Andy going on the run could link to Debbie's return in some way - ie he goes out and sees her and tells her what's happened and she comes back to try to help clear his name or some such?”

I would actually like that, it'd be much better than Debbie returning and starting up with Ross again. Debbie and Andy have great chemistry and if she helped Andy it would soften her character a bit and maybe lead to a a reunion for Andy and Debbie which I'd be all for.
kaiserbee
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Must admit, I've been wondering whether Andy going on the run could link to Debbie's return in some way - ie he goes out and sees her and tells her what's happened and she comes back to try to help clear his name or some such?”

I agree with Mark. That's a fabulous idea for her return
Nico_D
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Well if Aaron was able to hide out there for two years why not Andy? Plus the kids can get a babysitter they know instead of Debbie dumping the on some random French guy, it seems like a win win to me.”

Aaron went under a false passport, Debbie didn't so she would be very traceable. Like I said eyes will also now be on Debbie Incase Andy shows up. And there is no way someone as selfish as Debbie would also go on the run for Andy sake. His actions were one of the reasons she left, she felt let down by the men in her kids life having murderous tendencies so him showing up having been accused of murder will not entice her to make her and her kids live a life on the run
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Aaron went under a false passport, Debbie didn't so she would be very traceable. Like I said eyes will also now be on Debbie Incase Andy shows up. And there is no way someone as selfish as Debbie would also go on the run for Andy sake. His actions were one of the reasons she left, she felt let down by the men in her kids life having murderous tendencies so him showing up having been accused of murder will not entice her to make her and her kids live a life on the run”

LMAO!!!!

You make some good points, about the passports and tracking Debbie. But I think Debbie will get over Ross and Andy's murder pact. She has forgiven her parents stuff just as bad.
Nico_D
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LMAO!!!!

You make some good points, about the passports and tracking Debbie. But I think Debbie will get over Ross and Andy's murder pact. She has forgiven her parents stuff just as bad.”

I think so too, but she wouldn't go on the run for Andy and from a realistic point of view they would be watching Debbie who would be very easy to find......but considering how unrealstic soaps can be and real life logic doesn't apply they probably will go this route.

Kelvin is doing a Twitter q and a on Tuesday on the main Emmerdale account, he may let people know if he intends to return on that
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“I think so too, but she wouldn't go on the run for Andy and from a realistic point of view they would be watching Debbie who would be very easy to find......but considering how unrealstic soaps can be and real life logic doesn't apply they probably will go this route.

Kelvin is doing a Twitter q and a on Tuesday on the main Emmerdale account, he may let people know if he intends to return on that”

Well maybe like Alleycat suggested, she will come home to help prove Andy's innocence. I doubt she wants to see her baby daddy locked up for something he didn't do.

And I really hope Kelvin isn't gone permanently, I really enjoy his character, plus he's not that bad to look at.
Jimmy Skitz
12-08-2016
Kelvin will return at some point as he seems to like Emmerdale but probably just needs a break
Mark_Washingto1
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Skitz:
“Kelvin will return at some point as he seems to like Emmerdale but probably just needs a break”

I hope its just a couple of months like Adam Thomas had.
ianradioian
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I would actually like that, it'd be much better than Debbie returning and starting up with Ross again. Debbie and Andy have great chemistry and if she helped Andy it would soften her character a bit and maybe lead to a a reunion for Andy and Debbie which I'd be all for.”

Yes, that would work for me. I haven't missed Debbie ( nor Paddy ) at all, but they'll be back soon enough....
I'm dreading the scriptwriters putting Ross back with her; it's just awful and doesn't work plus it compromised the charactr of Ross so much too.
Glendarroch
14-08-2016
Thank goodness I"m not the only one who didn't start planning weddings at 7. That stuff was like something out of a MIlls and Boon!
Kell_Free
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“Yes, that would work for me. I haven't missed Debbie ( nor Paddy ) at all, but they'll be back soon enough....
I'm dreading the scriptwriters putting Ross back with her; it's just awful and doesn't work plus it compromised the charactr of Ross so much too.”

Was Debbie preggers when she left? I stopped watching between June 2015 and April 2016 so I don't know, but I remember someone here saying something like that. Something about Debbie taking a pregnancy test before she left?
Alleycat666
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I would actually like that, it'd be much better than Debbie returning and starting up with Ross again. Debbie and Andy have great chemistry and if she helped Andy it would soften her character a bit and maybe lead to a a reunion for Andy and Debbie which I'd be all for.”

Originally Posted by kaiserbee:
“I agree with Mark. That's a fabulous idea for her return ”

It's almost certain not to happen then ...

I just thought it might be a conceivable reason for her to come back - or maybe it will link to Cain and Moira splitting and she comes back to see if she can help with that (or hears about Charity and Cain and comes back to split them up!).

Just don't want her to suddenly come back with no believable reason for having done so - all the talk has been about how much she's enjoying it so there has to be some reason to bring her back.
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