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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Alleycat666
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by kaiserbee:
“

When will they, will they be famous? (Again).

... that's it. I've exhausted my retained knowledge of Bros songs, but bless them, why not?”

I can't answer, I can't answer that...
kwynne42
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Knobert and Thugden?

”

I'd much rather Andy came back than those shriekers in Bros, wonder it the one whose name no one remembers is back as well?
kwynne42
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“1 - Yep

2 - He did, but they were tearing lumps out of each other, so he probably thought he couldn't make things any worse

3 - I liked that scene and absolutely agree with the sidebar - I'd far rather praise good acting

4 - Yes - his behaviour was both in character and understandable

5 - Charity isn't having a good time at the minute

6 - He did - in his role as Elder Statesman

7 - He was just for once

8 - I'm loving Tiger Wife/Daughter-in-law Victoria

9 - Cruel but probably true

10 - I'm actually quite enjoying her and Pete actually

11 - Why should he - it gives Pierce the opportunity to ruin him even more

12 - Not surprised at Nessa, but Pearl is being a bit of a hypocrite considering how much Paddy has fought her corner in the past.”

6) Wonder if Zak has reclaimed his role as head of the Dingle family
11) He should bide his time until |Pierce trips up and shows himself for what he is, whatever that is.
Alleycat666
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“I'd much rather Andy came back than those shriekers in Broos, wonder it the one whose name no one remembers is back as well?”

Craig Logan....
kwynne42
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Craig Logan....”

Oh yes, married to a Bananarama isn't he or am I thinking of someone else.
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

1) Jai - really good performance by the actor and I don't get to say that about him very often so well done. It would have been better for Jai to admit that he was with Holly. Of course he felt very guilty that he left Holly to her fate, but I believe the advice given to addicts if they find themselves in a place exposed to temptation is to get away from it as soon as possible so he did the right thing by leaving the party, of course that would also be the argument that he shouldn't be with Holly or going to weddings where he would be alone in the first place. It was Jai's misfortune that Pete had just told the Bartons about him and Holly.

2) Pete part 1 by the way didn't Pete say he was going to wait until Leyla told them about Jai?

3) Moira - Accepted what Jai said about leaving Holly and has realised she may never really know what happened to her. The stuff about her and Adam blaming each other is fairly realistic since that happens in real families as well

Sidebar
Isn't it nice to praise really good acting rather than scoff at bad comedy so refreshing.

4)Adam - bit over the top with the violence and aggression but fairly good and realistic portrayal of Brother whose sister has just did.

5) Charity - getting it in the neck from all directions and now Debbie is leaving, defeated again by Victoria patronised by the Moron and now she has to tell Cain his daughter isn't coming back.

7) Never thought i'd say this but Moron was also sensible trying to arrange a peace between Charity and Victoria

8) Victoria - once again a star of the episode, the last thing she needed currently was Charity in her face.

9) Pete part 2 wherre is he going to take Leyla that's fun and does he even know what fun is.

10) Leyla find someone fun to have fun with


Ways how to kill Paddy No.33

Pierce creeps upto Paddy, drugs him and feeds him to the Dingle pigs, the pigs all die of food poisoning.”

1. Agreed

2. Pete was going to wait till he saw Adam and Moira ripping each other to shreds, then he decided to tell them and he told Lelya his reasoning.

3.Agreed

4. I don't think the violence was too much, its not like he's going around burning down garages

5. Cain is the HBIC's kryptonite and is weakening her. The sooner they break up the better

7. Marlon seems to be ok when he being supportive, its when he takes center stage that he becomes annoying.

8. Put the crack pipe down

9. He is going to take her to Bar West

10. Oh I'm sure she can think of plenty of fun things to do with Pete
kwynne42
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“1. Agreed

2. Pete was going to wait till he saw Adam and Moira ripping each other to shreds, then he decided to tell them and he told Lelya his reasoning.

3.Agreed

4. I don't think the violence was too much, its not like he's going around burning down garages

5. Cain is the HBIC's kryptonite and is weakening her. The sooner they break up the better

7. Marlon seems to be ok when he being supportive, its when he takes center stage that he becomes annoying.

8. Put the crack pipe down

9. He is going to take her to Bar West

10. Oh I'm sure she can think of plenty of fun things to do with Pete”

7) Mostly agreed.

8) Oh come on she was the 4th best thing in the episode

10) But its Pete who is coming up with something fun to do.
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“7) Mostly agreed.

8) Oh come on she was the 4th best thing in the episode

10) But its Pete who is coming up with something fun to do.”

I'd say Moira was the best, then Adam, Jai, Pete, Marlon, then maybe Victoria

As for Pete all needs to do is take his clothes off for some fun
cyrilandshirley
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“That was I thought a good scene between Moira and Jai - after the completely predictable and (I guess) understandable violence from Adam the quietness and calm of it was really well done.

I think Moira at least now that she knows what happened on Holly's last day may be able to be a bit more at peace with herself - she'll never stop blaming herself of course and Jai will probably do the same.

I actually find Chris Bisson is better when Jai is being nice/kind/sad than when he's being horrible - he seems to be able to get the character better - when he's being the baddie he sometimes tips over into caricature.

And I agree about the merging of names - would anyone do this in real life.....?”

He's loads better when Jai is being human! They made a massive mistake with Jai when they made him lock Charity in that box, it was a total load of holy crapola. After that, they just had nowhere to go with him, he's been a 2D panto villain.

This little fling with Holly and his feelings about it have been the making of him again.

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“
Ways how to kill Paddy No.33

Pierce creeps upto Paddy, drugs him and feeds him to the Dingle pigs, the pigs all die of food poisoning.”



But the pigs.
Alleycat666
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“He's loads better when Jai is being human! They made a massive mistake with Jai when they made him lock Charity in that box, it was a total load of holy crapola. After that, they just had nowhere to go with him, he's been a 2D panto villain.

This little fling with Holly and his feelings about it have been the making of him again.





But the pigs. ”

Collateral damage I guess...
Oldnjaded
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Collateral damage I guess...”

Yes and think of all those bacon butties and pork chops that'll be going spare eh?
Every cloud etc.........
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“He's loads better when Jai is being human! They made a massive mistake with Jai when they made him lock Charity in that box, it was a total load of holy crapola. After that, they just had nowhere to go with him, he's been a 2D panto villain.

This little fling with Holly and his feelings about it have been the making of him again.
”

Completely agree, it's great to see Jai come back from the black cloud he has been shrouded in so long. He's back to his old likable self.
Holly and Jai were a great pairing, however brief.

Now liking the Leyla/Pete pairing, think they could go the distance. As far as any couple can ever go of course. Married within the year and then divorced by the next.
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Completely agree, it's great to see Jai come back from the black cloud he has been shrouded in so long. He's back to his old likable self.
Holly and Jai were a great pairing, however brief.

Now liking the Leyla/Pete pairing, think they could go the distance. As far as any couple can ever go of course. Married within the year and then divorced by the next. ”

When was he likable?
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“When was he likable?”

When he first arrived, and before Charity destroyed him.
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“When he first arrived, and before Charity destroyed him.”

Well to be fair, it was his own fault that the HBIC destroyed him. He should have never slept with Rachel.
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Well to be fair, it was his own fault that the HBIC destroyed him. He should have never slept with Rachel.”

Yes well that was pretty unbelievable - like anyone would sleep with Rachel!

He was a likeable character up until then however.
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Yes well that was pretty unbelievable - like anyone would sleep with Rachel!

He was a likeable character up until then however.”

that would explain why I don't remember him being nice. When I started watching Rishi was pretending to be Archie's dad so all I know is evil Jai.
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“that would explain why I don't remember him being nice. When I started watching Rishi was pretending to be Archie's dad so all I know is evil Jai.”

I thought as much.

Hopefully this turnaround is permanent. It's only a shame his drug storyline was handled so badly that we didn't actually feel anything about it.
Teifiboi
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“If you ask me, the involvement of Chas when Holly was found was very forced. Like there just had to be a Dingle there. The absence of all the extended Barton's is more odd than Chas going to visit Belle.”

As far as the extended Bartons are concerned, there has been precious little interaction between them and Holly (or Adam for that matter, until Ross suddenly, and out of character, decided to take an interest in Adam's welfare earlier in the week).

Moira is the scarlet woman, for having bedded James, begotten Adam with James and the more recent Moira/James shenanigans (the the back seat of a taxi fling with James is not yet common knowledge). Then there was Pete's little assignation with Moira too. Anyone getting too close to Moira, in Emma's judgement, is likely to be found in deep water wearing concrete wellies.

To be quite honest, I cannot see why any one of them would give a fig about Holly's death, other than James, who, if he did give a fig, would do so out of ulterior motives.
Teifiboi
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes and think of all those bacon butties and pork chops that'll be going spare eh?
Every cloud etc......... ”

If the swine died as a result of eating Jai's corpse, or as a result of eating anything else to be quite honest, I think that I would give the bacon butties and pork chops etc a very wide berth!
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I thought as much.

Hopefully this turnaround is permanent. It's only a shame his drug storyline was handled so badly that we didn't actually feel anything about it.”

The drug story was handled really bad.

I honestly would prefer if Jai stayed evil. I just don't buy him as a nice guy.
Hound of Love
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“If you ask me, the involvement of Chas when Holly was found was very forced. Like there just had to be a Dingle there. The absence of all the extended Barton's is more odd than Chas going to visit Belle.”

Agreed. Particularly the bit in bold.
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“As far as the extended Bartons are concerned, there has been precious little interaction between them and Holly (or Adam for that matter, until Ross suddenly, and out of character, decided to take an interest in Adam's welfare earlier in the week).

Moira is the scarlet woman, for having bedded James, begotten Adam with James and the more recent Moira/James shenanigans (the the back seat of a taxi fling with James is not yet common knowledge). Then there was Pete's little assignation with Moira too. Anyone getting too close to Moira, in Emma's judgement, is likely to be found in deep water wearing concrete wellies.

To be quite honest, I cannot see why any one of them would give a fig about Holly's death, other than James, who, if he did give a fig, would do so out of ulterior motives.”

I don't think interaction with Holly is necessary for them to show support for their Auntie Moira after her daughter died. Ross is actually helping out on the farm and he knows that Moira & James has slept together more recently. I don't think it is out of the question that they could take it a step further.

I get perhaps Pete might feel a little awkward after their kiss but he seemed fine when he went round in last nights episode. He's also been round the farm helping out.

Even if they didn't go round but we saw a bit of their feelings on a family members death - you'd think Emma might comment on it, whether she be saying something nice or nasty.

The most notable absence for me is Finn anyway, who we have seen neither hide nor hair of. The nicest character in the village has absolutely nothing to offer in the way of condolences to his Aunt. I don't buy it.
samcains90
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“The drug story was handled really bad.

I honestly would prefer if Jai stayed evil. I just don't buy him as a nice guy.”

I thought he was awful at playing evil, so I prefer him this way.

Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“Agreed. Particularly the bit in bold.”

Thank you. She really annoyed me actually when she took the phone off Moira because she was upset and then proceeded to cry down the phone at the operator - like Moira could have just kept the phone!
Mark_Washingto1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I thought he was awful at playing evil, so I prefer him this way.
”

Really? I guess we feel the complete opposite about Jai and Chrissie
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