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Old 18-10-2016, 14:07
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Amen to that Sam.

I'm actually furious with myself for spending most of last night and most of this morning discussing Robert's "motivations", trying to rationalise his latest most ludicrous sl, when I know perfectly well this latest "revelation" about his past history was only conceived of by the storyliners a few months ago when they were sat round their tables with their kit kats, a fag packet, a crayon each and an instruction to "come up with summat good for Wobwon for Big Oct Week".
I watched the episode this morning, but caught glimpses on the forum last night of what had gone on, and I don't know why I was surprised that Emmerdale were trashing another father figure, but I was.

It was truly awful, whoever wrote any of that (besides the Lachlan stuff) should seriously think about hanging up their writing pen, I've actually read better fan fiction!
Do we know who the writer was?
At least the camera work and directing was good.

Who do we get tonight?
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:11
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Twilight was far better

As I said it the daily, one of my biggest problems is that it felt random. All the other storylines this week are getting to place were they are ready to finish, this seemed like they came up with a story purely for this week.


I agree. Nothing really happened. Save for the kidnapping of Lachlan (which in some scenes was played for laughs) and the car accident. It was an actual waste of time except to make sure that a particular group of fans got Robron day.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:12
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Pierce, Paddy, Rhona and Marlon are in tonight's episode.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:14
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Amen to that Sam.

I'm actually furious with myself for spending most of last night and most of this morning discussing Robert's "motivations", trying to rationalise his latest most ludicrous sl, when I know perfectly well this latest "revelation" about his past history was only conceived of by the storyliners a few months ago when they were sat round their tables with their kit kats, a fag packet, a crayon each and an instruction to "come up with summat good for Wobwon for Big Oct Week".
They weren't even needed anyway, unlike the other characters this week there was no point or purpose to them featuring. They offered absolutely nothing, the scenes were pointless and the story was equally so. A complete waste of an episode solely so that McCloud could score some points for the awards by finding a way to feature The Two Johnnies. Well they are a right couple of knobs.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:29
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I watched the episode this morning, but caught glimpses on the forum last night of what had gone on, and I don't know why I was surprised that Emmerdale were trashing another father figure, but I was.

It was truly awful, whoever wrote any of that (besides the Lachlan stuff) should seriously think about hanging up their writing pen, I've actually read better fan fiction!
Do we know who the writer was?
At least the camera work and directing was good.

Who do we get tonight?
Maxine Alderton, wife of director Neil who's currently working on Corrie, but directs Emmerdale too.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:41
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Maxine Alderton, wife of director Neil who's currently working on Corrie, but directs Emmerdale too.
Ah, not who I thought but what a terrible display of her talent.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:45
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Ah, not who I thought but what a terrible display of her talent.
Did you really think the episode was that bad?
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:52
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Ah, not who I thought but what a terrible display of her talent.
I expected far better than that drivel from her.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:12
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Did you really think the episode was that bad?
Apart from the Lachlan stuff, yes I did.
The fact that the kidnapping of Lachlan was played mostly for laughs was deplorable in my opinion. All the lovey dovey Robron pandering was actually sickening, I muted the TV when Robert was practicing his proposal!
Most of the episode was made up of cringeworthy dialogue and showing off a massive engagement ring that surely can only be meant for Aaron's big toe!
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:21
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Apart from the Lachlan stuff, yes I did.
The fact that the kidnapping of Lachlan was played mostly for laughs was deplorable in my opinion. All the lovey dovey Robron pandering was actually sickening, I muted the TV when Robert was practicing his proposal!
Most of the episode was made up of cringeworthy dialogue and showing off a massive engagement ring that surely can only be meant for Aaron's big toe!
Haven't other kidnappings been played for laughs? Like Cain kidnapping Robert, Cain kidnapping Rakesh and I'm sure there are more. I did think the scene at the side of the road was hilarious, they were having this romantic moment while Lachlan was locked in the trunk of their car.

I think if it wasn't for the history rewrite that episode would have been perfect.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:22
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Haven't other kidnappings been played for laughs? Like Cain kidnapping Robert, Cain kidnapping Rakesh and I'm sure there are more. I did think the scene at the side of the road was hilarious, they were having this romantic moment while Lachlan was locked in the trunk of their car.

I think if it wasn't for the history rewrite that episode would have been perfect.
The victims in those circumstances were not children though.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:26
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The victims in those circumstances were not children though.
Isn't Lachlan 16? I thought that was considered an adult in the UK

Plus he is grown man size and doing evil things. So I have no problem with Aaron beating him and locking him in the trunk
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:30
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Isn't Lachlan 16? I thought that was considered an adult in the UK

Plus he is grown man size and doing evil things. So I have no problem with Aaron beating him and locking him in the trunk
He's 17 and you're not considered an adult until 18.
Lachlan is still a minor. He's a messed up kid.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:32
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He's 17 and you're not considered an adult until 18.
Lachlan is still a minor. He's a messed up kid.
Ok I'm confused I thought 16 was legal and that is why Dr. Bailey didn't go to jail for sleeping with Belle.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:38
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Ok I'm confused I thought 16 was legal and that is why Dr. Bailey didn't go to jail for sleeping with Belle.
You can have sex at 16.

But you'e not an adult until you're 18.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:39
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You can have sex at 16.

But you'e not an adult until you're 18.
Ok got it, thanks

Still think Lachlan deserved it though. Making up abuse allegations is the lowest of the low.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:44
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Done mostly to stop Mark_W nagging me about it heh

Analysis of Emmerdale characters shortish version

1) What was the policeman's interest in the car once it had been established that it wasn't stolen and hadn't been abandoned why was he still wanting to look in the car.

2) Who is driving the erratic car mentioned on the police radio.

3) Robert dear stop making up stories about your father, you bad mouthed him enough when he was alive and since without you making up stories about him being anti gay just to impress your angry boyfriend/fiancé

Remember Ex Hollyoaks many round here were watching when you were probably still in nappies and they were here when Robert was 15 and saw no such things.

Robert dear which boy were you thinking of when you were shagging Katie and Sadie and the many other woman you got off with without hint of boys.

4) Aaron you got annoyed with Cain when he did the exact same thing to Robert himself

And Aaron watch the road don't spend you entire time looking at Robert you might have an accident as you appear to be having.

5) It all looked very pretty last night did they film on fil.

6) Lachlan stay away from cliff tops and car boots in future ok

7) Rbecca - one of my new favourite charactrs

8) Shut up Paddy

9) Laurel still appears not to have noticed Ashley has had another stroke even though its the next day.

Ways how to get rid of ExHollyoaks No.2

Get the writers to change his character so he resigns on the spot and never darkens TV ever again.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:47
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He's 17 and you're not considered an adult until 18.
Lachlan is still a minor. He's a messed up kid.
He's actually only recently turned. 16 he had his 15th birthdays offscreen last year at he time of the disaster, ironically after coming from staying with Rebecca ( who apparently now hasn't seen them for years)

Lachlan threatening to make up stories about abuse ( which is as despicable a thing anyone can do) was to make sure no one sympathised with him, because prior to that he had a point with regards to Robert has chosen Aaron he should now leave the whites alone.

When Robert said to tell the truth about Lawrence his reply should have been " ok give me a lift to the police station then. And while I tell them that, will you tell the truth about Katie.....and who shot you?.....No?...ok shall we call it a stale mate then?".

Like Iv'e said I like Robert but I don't buy this desperation to clear Andys name, Andy had it coming considering what he did both the whites and Robert. All of them have been as bad as each other, so acting like Andy was a wronged victim doesn't feel right.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:09
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Ok got it, thanks

Still think Lachlan deserved it though. Making up abuse allegations is the lowest of the low.
There's actually lower things than making up abuse allegations - murder and abuse being two. I know one of which Lachlan is actually guilty of.

However, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td3fl3FAuxI

Funny how even the writer's will use this stuff against a child who is seriously messed up to garner sympathy for the adult villains. Despite the character having previously admitted to his wrongdoings and going to counselling.
Now, I'm not excusing Lachlan's behaviour as a result of bad writing as that would also mean I'd have to write off Robron as being a result of bad writing. He can now bring up that stuff about Alicia without a qualm. However, that for me has no bearing whatsoever on Aaron and Robert and the only person who should have been allowed to get revenge on the kid is Alicia.

Lachlan was just posturing with Robert, he would never have done it. And, if he had, it's not as though anyone would ever have believed it. Then looking back at Aaron's motivations - it had nothing to do with his anger at Lachlan using sexual abuse as a blackmail tool, it was all to do with him potentially losing Robert. Get real Emmerdale.

He's actually only recently turned. 16 he had his 15th birthdays offscreen last year at he time of the disaster, ironically after coming from staying with Rebecca ( who apparently now hasn't seen them for years)

Lachlan threatening to make up stories about abuse ( which is as despicable a thing anyone can do) was to make sure no one sympathised with him, because prior to that he had a point with regards to Robert has chosen Aaron he should now leave the whites alone.

When Robert said to tell the truth about Lawrence his reply should have been " ok give me a lift to the police station then. And while I tell them that, will you tell the truth about Katie.....and who shot you?.....No?...ok shall we call it a stale mate then?".

Like Iv'e said I like Robert but I don't buy this desperation to clear Andys name, Andy had it coming considering what he did both the whites and Robert. All of them have been as bad as each other, so acting like Andy was a wronged victim doesn't feel right.
I apologise, I thought I heard them say he was 17, my mistake.

I agree with all your points as well. Especially Robert wanting to clear Andy's name - especially after this most recent revelation about Jack.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:11
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Done mostly to stop Mark_W nagging me about it heh

Analysis of Emmerdale characters shortish version

1) What was the policeman's interest in the car once it had been established that it wasn't stolen and hadn't been abandoned why was he still wanting to look in the car.
1) He was a Dingle.

My question, why did Lachlan stop banging just because Aaron banged back? If I'd been in that boot I would have kept on banging.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:14
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Done mostly to stop Mark_W nagging me about it heh

Analysis of Emmerdale characters shortish version

1) What was the policeman's interest in the car once it had been established that it wasn't stolen and hadn't been abandoned why was he still wanting to look in the car.

2) Who is driving the erratic car mentioned on the police radio.

3) Robert dear stop making up stories about your father, you bad mouthed him enough when he was alive and since without you making up stories about him being anti gay just to impress your angry boyfriend/fiancé

Remember Ex Hollyoaks many round here were watching when you were probably still in nappies and they were here when Robert was 15 and saw no such things.

Robert dear which boy were you thinking of when you were shagging Katie and Sadie and the many other woman you got off with without hint of boys.

4) Aaron you got annoyed with Cain when he did the exact same thing to Robert himself

And Aaron watch the road don't spend you entire time looking at Robert you might have an accident as you appear to be having.

5) It all looked very pretty last night did they film on fil.

7) Rbecca - one of my new favourite charactrs

8) Shut up Paddy

9) Laurel still appears not to have noticed Ashley has had another stroke even though its the next day.

Ways how to get rid of ExHollyoaks No.2

Get the writers to change his character so he resigns on the spot and never darkens TV ever again.
I didn't mean to nag, I just wanted to know your thoughts on the Robron-centric epipsode

1. Most police (at least in the US) are like that. I got stopped by a cop and they asked me to open the trunk and asked my friend riding with me if I had weapons in the car.

2. Probably Ashley

3. Is Robert lying? That would be great and fit with his character instead of rewriting history.

4. Because Aaron Loves Robert

5. I looked like Hollyoaks Later

7. Why?

8. Paddy was right though

9. LOL nope, maybe she's been hitting the bottle again
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:17
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Maxine Alderton, wife of director Neil who's currently working on Corrie, but directs Emmerdale too.
Yes I remember reading the teasers from the metro and it said - Robron’s episode is written by superfan of the couple Maxine Alderton…
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:19
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There's actually lower things than making up abuse allegations - murder and abuse being two. I know one of which Lachlan is actually guilty of.

However, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td3fl3FAuxI

Funny how even the writer's will use this stuff against a child who is seriously messed up to garner sympathy for the adult villains. Despite the character having previously admitted to his wrongdoings and going to counselling.
Now, I'm not excusing Lachlan's behaviour as a result of bad writing as that would also mean I'd have to write off Robron as being a result of bad writing. He can now bring up that stuff about Alicia without a qualm. However, that for me has no bearing whatsoever on Aaron and Robert and the only person who should have been allowed to get revenge on the kid is Alicia.

Lachlan was just posturing with Robert, he would never have done it. And, if he had, it's not as though anyone would ever have believed it. Then looking back at Aaron's motivations - it had nothing to do with his anger at Lachlan using sexual abuse as a blackmail tool, it was all to do with him potentially losing Robert. Get real Emmerdale.



I apologise, I thought I heard them say he was 17, my mistake.

I agree with all your points as well. Especially Robert wanting to clear Andy's name - especially after this most recent revelation about Jack.
I didn't look at the Lachlan's actions as a means to gain sympathy for Robert but you do have a point about that. Now I disagree about Lachlan being all talk. This boy shot is grandfather so you can see Aaron thinking Lachlan is capable of doing that plus the abuse hits too close to home for Aaron which could have also driven him to such desperate lengths.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:30
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1) He was a Dingle.

My question, why did Lachlan stop banging just because Aaron banged back? If I'd been in that boot I would have kept on banging.
Maybe he escaped without them realizing it. I know my Camry has a release on the inside of the trunk in case someone gets trapped inside of it.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:33
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Yes I remember reading the teasers from the metro and it said - Robron’s episode is written by superfan of the couple Maxine Alderton…
A writer a superfan???
Jeez if anyone should know they're fictional and don't actually exist, she should.
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