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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Yeah, the vote showed how strong racism is in America. Trump and his electorate are do not want minorities like myself in America and I expect he will make it a very unpleasant place for us.”

I heard Americans saying that they were voting because he's s a businessman, but we' ve had the experience of a nation being run like a business and it doesn't: work. Businesses aren't t obliged to have social responsibility, governments should in the experience we' ve had with him in Scotland Trump seems completely unscrupulous in his dealings with people. Some of us yesterday are discussing whether he could be a psychopath! I guess a lot of these people are on the psychopath scale, but Trump seems like a quite extreme example. Poor America. I' m sure Obama had many faults as a leader but at least he seemed like a caring, intelligent, principled man.
HOAddict
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Yeah, the vote showed how strong racism is in America. Trump and his electorate are do not want minorities like myself in America and I expect he will make it a very unpleasant place for us.”

But they are saying that HIllary actually received more votes than Trump. It's just the skewed voting system that means she loses, even though she wins. It was the same with Gore and Bush.

Do Americans know what the verb 'to trump' means in the UK?
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh that's OK then ”

No, you know fine that what I'M m saying is that some crimes are worse than others! Even the law recognises that, and we all know, it's s an ass
kwynne42
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Cain and Sam are brothers, well half brothers anyway - they have the same father. Even though Cain was brought up by Shadrach, Zak is actually his father and he is also Sam's father.”

Not to mention Butch and the other one who died because of Luke mcalister on the day we met him.
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“His brother didn't leave him for dead though... And before you say Ross started it by having an affair, do you really think the old Cain would of thought twice about sleeping with one of Sams girlfriends if she was his type?”

Give overPete thought he had accidentally killed Ross and panicked. He's s no murderer. Plus he's s had years of Ross's resentment to live with. The cheating was the straw that broke the camel's s back. I' m sure Cain would have cheated with one of Sam's s girlfriends. Ross had no grounds for retaliation, he provoked the situation.
al_capo
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Give overPete thought he had accidentally killed Ross and panicked. He's s no murderer. Plus he's s had years of Ross's resentment to live with. The cheating was the straw that broke the camel's s back. I' m sure Cain would have cheated with one of Sam's s girlfriends. Ross had no grounds for retaliation, he provoked the situation.”

So if a sibling left you for dead, you wouldnt be a tad miffed?
pixiegirl123
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Cain and Sam are brothers, well half brothers anyway - they have the same father. Even though Cain was brought up by Shadrach, Zak is actually his father and he is also Sam's father.”

So they are. I forgot, I thought they were cousins. You can't expect to understand the Dingle family tree. Has their been a more confusing family tree in the history of TV? I think not

Although Sam has never left Cain in a ditch for dead, if he did, I reckon Cain wouldn't have let it slide. Then again, Cain did lead it slide when Zak did, so who knows? All I do know, is the thought of Sam beating Cain unconscious is bloody hilarious
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“ Some of us yesterday are discussing whether he could be a psychopath! I guess a lot of these people are on the psychopath scale, but Trump seems like a quite extreme example. Poor America. I' m sure Obama had many faults as a leader but at least he seemed like a caring, intelligent, principled man.”

It kind of scares me where the world is heading. It's not just the US, it's here. It's France. It's all over Europe. People choosing blatant xenophobia or fear mongering over common sense. Politicians causing deep division and hate where there wasn't any before.
Chiltons Cane
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by pixiegirl123:
“I did not know that happened! Well, those two jut dropped in my estimation ”

I have no idea how she pulled those 2 hotties
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by pixiegirl123:
“He doesn't have a brother. Got you on a technicality

Also, I refuse to believe Cain has never tried to kill someone. It's Cain after all.

Ross is exactly like Cain when he was younger. Probably why they hate each other so much. ”

Sam doesn't t count them?Does Cain hate Ross? I think he empathises with him, that' s why he was so understanding last week. Cain's s basically a relatively decent person who had a terrible start in life, was damaged by that and spent a long time being extremely angry and taking it out on other people. That doesn't t justify a lot of his acts, though. Ross had a problematic childhood too but nowhere near bad enough to have scarred him so much that he would set out to kill someone, he might do it in anger in a fight but not deliberately. Heck I have a close relative who had a scarily similar background to Ross but with a more violent father - and he went into the police ,( although to be fair, polis have criminal minds - and I got that from a policeman!,).
Oldnjaded
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Oi its Oldnjaded that loves cain

I have no particularly strong opinions either way.”

Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Oh, my mistake ”

Yes and here I am to defend my beautiful, wise and gentle hero (now he's matured after finding his one true luurve), so watch it.
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“So if a sibling left you for dead, you wouldnt be a tad miffed?”

Yes, of course, but I have enough faith in myself as a nice person to think that I wouldn't t have treated a sibling badly enough to earn it! If I resented my siblings so much as,Ross resents Pete I would have nothing to do with them. Did Ros for a minute consider his parents or Finn before he basically took out a hit?
pixiegirl123
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Sam doesn't t count them?Does Cain hate Ross? I think he empathises with him, that' s why he was so understanding last week. Cain's s basically a relatively decent person who had a terrible start in life, was damaged by that and spent a long time being extremely angry and taking it out on other people. That doesn't t justify a lot of his acts, though. Ross had a problematic childhood too but nowhere near bad enough to have scarred him so much that he would set out to kill someone, he might do it in anger in a fight but not deliberately. Heck I have a close relative who had a scarily similar background to Ross but with a more violent father - and he went into the police ,( although to be fair, polis have criminal minds - and I got that from a policeman!,).”

I just forgot Sam exists, it's easily done

Cain put Ross by the side of a quarry not caring whether if he lived or died, so I get the impression that he's not his biggest fan (which is a title which belongs to Al_Capo, Sorcha or Houndie )
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by pixiegirl123:
“So they are. I forgot, I thought they were cousins. You can't expect to understand the Dingle family tree. Has their been a more confusing family tree in the history of TV? I think not

Although Sam has never left Cain in a ditch for dead, if he did, I reckon Cain wouldn't have let it slide. Then again, Cain did lead it slide when Zak did, so who knows? All I do know, is the thought of Sam beating Cain unconscious is bloody hilarious


It kind of scares me where the world is heading. It's not just the US, it's here. It's France. It's all over Europe. People choosing blatant xenophobia or fear mongering over common sense. Politicians causing deep division and hate where there wasn't any before. ”

We had a hugely frightening incident here. Some Nazi group had organised a pop concert for members in Falkirk, which is in the next county from here only ,,15 miles away. These people were coming from all over and there was nothing the police or council could do. People were protesting to their MSPs about it, but luckily the thing got cancelled before they could act because so many of the members were banned from entering the country Awful to think that it came so close!
Glendarroch
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by pixiegirl123:
“I just forgot Sam exists, it's easily done

Cain put Ross by the side of a quarry not caring whether if he lived or died, so I get the impression that he's not his biggest fan (which is a title which belongs to Al_Capo, Sorcha or Houndie )”

Ach, that was a mere nothingHe didn't t push hinm in. I would have, especially after he was going on to Victoria about how ' everyone thought he wasthe bad one anyway'P%%% off Dross, that's s your own fault
HOAddict
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“So if a sibling left you for dead, you wouldnt be a tad miffed?”

But he didn't leave him for dead, he thought he WAS dead. There is a difference.

Leaving someone for dead is what Chrissie did to her sister.
pixiegirl123
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“We had a hugely frightening incident here. Some Nazi group had organised a pop concert for members in Falkirk, which is in the next county from here only ,,15 miles away. These people were coming from all over and there was nothing the police or council could do. People were protesting to their MSPs about it, but luckily the thing got cancelled before they could act because so many of the members were banned from entering the country:o Awful to think that it came so close!”

Bloody hell. They must have been bad

It's the newspapers that get me. Bloody Daily Mail ect., they are just spreading pure hate against anyone who disagrees with them. Some of their headlines read like something out of 1930s Germany or Italy , and no, I'm not saying we're getting that bad, or that it ever will. It's still making me really angry though

Originally Posted by HOAddict:
“But he didn't leave him for dead, he thought he WAS dead. There is a difference.

Leaving someone for dead is what Chrissie did to her sister.”

I'm pretty sue leaving someone for dead is when you don't know whether they are alive or dead. Leaving a person injured but alive is leaving them dying. Or leaving them for dead is both.

I'm pretty sure both are pretty inexcusable, mind
al_capo
10-11-2016
More arguments about Ross' morals.... I dont care

He's great as he is, being an evil bastard IMO.
Mark_Washingto1
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“They didn't seem to have any problem working together this episode did they?”

How do we know what went on behind the scenes? I read somewhere that Ryan Thomas and Tina O'brian would have huge fights that interrupted the filming of scenes on Corrie. Could you tell from those scenes back then that those two were fighting IRL?


Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“In what way is Dross gross Semi Likable.”

When they show his softer side, being protective of Finn or his scenes with April show Ross has a caring side.

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I heard Americans saying that they were voting because he's s a businessman, but we' ve had the experience of a nation being run like a business and it doesn't: work. Businesses aren't t obliged to have social responsibility, governments should in the experience we' ve had with him in Scotland Trump seems completely unscrupulous in his dealings with people. Some of us yesterday are discussing whether he could be a psychopath! I guess a lot of these people are on the psychopath scale, but Trump seems like a quite extreme example. Poor America. I' m sure Obama had many faults as a leader but at least he seemed like a caring, intelligent, principled man.”

That might be part of the reason but I really believe that people voted for him based on hate and racism plain and simple. When you live the big cities in America and drive through some of these rural areas its like stepping back in time 50 years. People in those areas have not progressed like the rest of the country and Trump's message of hate spoke to them and turned them out in record numbers.

Originally Posted by HOAddict:
“But they are saying that HIllary actually received more votes than Trump. It's just the skewed voting system that means she loses, even though she wins. It was the same with Gore and Bush.

Do Americans know what the verb 'to trump' means in the UK?”

Yeah she did win the popular vote, I read an article that there are a few states that want to do away with the electoral college.

As for trump I assume it means the same thing it means here to beat someone at something
Nico_D
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Yeah she did win the popular vote, I read an article that there are a few states that want to do away with the electoral college.

As for trump I assume it means the same thing it means here to beat someone at something”

I don't understand American politics, what's the difference between the popular vote and the actual vote? Because isn't an election a glorified popularity contest anyway.
HOAddict
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“How do we know what went on behind the scenes? I read somewhere that Ryan Thomas and Tina O'brian would have huge fights that interrupted the filming of scenes on Corrie. Could you tell from those scenes back then that those two were fighting IRL?




When they show his softer side, being protective of Finn or his scenes with April show Ross has a caring side.



That might be part of the reason but I really believe that people voted for him based on hate and racism plain and simple. When you live the big cities in America and drive through some of these rural areas its like stepping back in time 50 years. People in those areas have not progressed like the rest of the country and Trump's message of hate spoke to them and turned them out in record numbers.



Yeah she did win the popular vote, I read an article that there are a few states that want to do away with the electoral college.

As for trump I assume it means the same thing it means here to beat someone at something”

I think your system is good for weeding through all the candidates but once you get down to the final count it should just be one man one vote.

No, it doesn mean to win, but to trump also means to fart!
Mark_Washingto1
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis of General themes of last night episode

1) Things you don't do while farming

A) Don't argue while there is machinery around
B) Don't ever let Dross near heavy lifters
3) Why is Dross being allowed to farm anyway

Who is running the barton taxi business surely Finn can't man the switch and b e a Taxi Driver and moon over coma man

2) Oi Dross don't try an use your sexual perverted self all over Victoria you runt, why does he want Adam to hit him anyway

3) Isn't Adam really the boss anyway with Moira way? Ross only has 1/10th of the farm while Moira and Adam combined have 6/10ths

4) Poor Victoria she was only trying to keep the peace and be nice to Dross and look what happened, Not drinking Alcohol so may be pregnant as it is the soap law

Home Farm ,Diane and the Police

6) Diane was full iof rage and bluster and totally ineffectual

8) The rate lachlan is growing he will be bigger than Chrissie and Lawrence combined.

12) Can anyone remember what the tale of the Broken Vase is about

The Cafe

13) brenda you annoying nosy cow shut the eff off and leave Ronnie alone

16) Joanie is such a vile woman she now worse than Lisa and is now on my death list

17) The Sharma/Rakesh plotline is very dreary and never seems to go anywhere.

ways how to Kill Joanie

1) Belle alter ego Ellie takes over and beats Joanie to death.”

1. Don't you need a licence to operate that type of equipment? I doubt Ross would be qualified or no how to operate that type of machinery.

2. Because Ross wants someone to be angry at

3.those are details Ross isn't bothered with

4. Yeah, she didn't deserve that

6. Is it just me or is Diane (can't think of her real name) not the best actress?

8. He must be on Andy's workout plan

12. Not sure, didn't Lachlan shoot the vase first

13. Wendy needs to die

16. Lisa should not be on your death list. She is a good protective mom and the Dingle Matriarch

17. I think its time the Sharmas go

Aww I've missed your ways to kill characters, I'm glad you've brought it back and are focusing on Joanie
Mark_Washingto1
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“I don't understand American politics, what's the difference between the popular vote and the actual vote? Because isn't an election a glorified popularity contest anyway.”

The popular vote is the actual vote by the people. The Electoral Vote is what actually decides the presidency. Each state is asssigned a certain number of electoral votes based on their population size, so states like California, New York adn Ohio have more electora votes than the smaller states like Iowa, Maine or New Hamshire and a candidate needs 270 electoral votes to become the president. The way it works is the which ever candiate has more votes in a state wins all of the electoral votes of that state (except for two states that split their electoral vote).

Originally Posted by HOAddict:
“I think your system is good for weeding through all the candidates but once you get down to the final count it should just be one man one vote.

No, it doesn't mean to win. To trump means to fart! ”

LOL I did not know that
kwynne42
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“1. Don't you need a licence to operate that type of equipment? I doubt Ross would be qualified or no how to operate that type of machinery.

2. Because Ross wants someone to be angry at

3.those are details Ross isn't bothered with

4. Yeah, she didn't deserve that

6. Is it just me or is Diane (can't think of her real name) not the best actress?

8. He must be on Andy's workout plan

12. Not sure, didn't Lachlan shoot the vase first

13. Wendy needs to die

16. Lisa should not be on your death list. She is a good protective mom and the Dingle Matriarch

17. I think its time the Sharmas go

Aww I've missed your ways to kill characters, I'm glad you've brought it back and are focusing on Joanie”

1) Working in a garage he probably has that licence to drive the Tow Truck

13 Agreed

16) Lisa is currently off my death list but she is being watched.
17 Priya can stay as long as she bins rakesh
Mark_Washingto1
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“1) Working in a garage he probably has that licence to drive the Tow Truck

13 Agreed

16) Lisa is currently off my death list but she is being watched.
17 Priya can stay as long as she bins rakesh”

1. Oh yeah that is a good point

16. Lisa should have never been on your list

17. Pryia can stay I guess, the rest of them are uselsss
Oldnjaded
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“I don't understand American politics, what's the difference between the popular vote and the actual vote? Because isn't an election a glorified popularity contest anyway.”

No, not popular in that sense - it means the vote of the populace. It's a proportional representation thing.
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