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Old 13-11-2016, 12:22
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Usually when a couple on soap starts talking about trying for a baby, I assume it's going to lead do either a infertility or a miscarriage storyline, because planned babies do not exist in the world of TV, and I think your idea would be a much better story then another affair storyline, and giving Finn something to do is fine by me.

But after the Victoria/Ross scenes on Friday and with Adam Thomas taking a break to go into the jungle, I think Al is right. Although I won't complain if we're completely wrong
If they do go down the Ross/Victoria route, I wont judge it too quickly. They cant be any worse than Ross/Debbie, plus it doesn't have to be an affair. Vic and Adam could easily just drift apart, and then Ross could swoop in.
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Old 13-11-2016, 12:34
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If they do go down the Ross/Victoria route, I wont judge it too quickly. They cant be any worse than Ross/Debbie, plus it doesn't have to be an affair. Vic and Adam could easily just drift apart, and then Ross could swoop in.
That would be okay, better than another affair. Although I would miffed that they split up one of the few happy couples in Emmerdale
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:02
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If they do go down the Ross/Victoria route, I wont judge it too quickly. They cant be any worse than Ross/Debbie, plus it doesn't have to be an affair. Vic and Adam could easily just drift apart, and then Ross could swoop in.
Victoria and Ross have zero chemistry and it make Ross look pathetic and evil going after another brother's wife.

On another note was listening to this song the other day and I've realized this is Ross' theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5gjZUhDqJg
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:05
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Victoria and Ross have zero chemistry and it make Ross look pathetic and evil going after another brother's wife.

On another note was listening to this song the other day and I've realized this is Ross' theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5gjZUhDqJg
I disagree on the chemistry bit, I think they have loads. It helps that they are together in real life, obviously chemistry is there.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:08
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I disagree on the chemistry bit, I think they have loads. It helps that they are together in real life, obviously chemistry is there.
I have seen a lot of real life couples that have zero chemistry when they pair their characters together. Like David and Debbie would be terrible or could imagine Rhona and Cain?
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:12
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I have seen a lot of real life couples that have zero chemistry when they pair their characters together. Like David and Debbie would be terrible or could imagine Rhona and Cain?
David and Debbie would probably work, both dull as dishwater. I think in many ways Vic is similar to Donna- She's a normal girl, shes caring, she has morals but she has a feisty side aswell. We have only seen her have a few scenes with Ross, so all Im saying is that if they do pair them together I'll give it a while before I decided if they are decent or not.

Also does Ross really see Adam as his brother? Is Adam really his brother? It could of easily been Ross' sock that James got out of that washing basket.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:14
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David and Debbie would probably work, both dull as dishwater. I think in many ways Vic is similar to Donna- She's a normal girl, shes caring, she has morals but she has a feisty side aswell. We have only seen her have a few scenes with Ross, so all Im saying is that if they do pair them together I'll give it a while before I decided if they are decent or not.

Also does Ross really see Adam as his brother? Is Adam really his brother? It could of easily been Ross' sock that James got out of that washing basket.
Either way Adam is still family and you just don't go after a family member's spouse, be it brother or cousin.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:16
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Either way Adam is still family and you just don't go after a family member's spouse, be it brother or cousin.
Normal people with morals wouldnt, but its Ross.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:24
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Normal people with morals wouldnt, but its Ross.
But you have to draw the line somewhere, Ross should not be a completely evil character with no morals, plus it would make Victoria look really bad and since she grew up witnessing the the Andy/Robert drama it would be stupid of her get herself involved in something that could be so destructive to a family.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:32
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But you have to draw the line somewhere, Ross should not be a completely evil character with no morals, plus it would make Victoria look really bad and since she grew up witnessing the the Andy/Robert drama it would be stupid of her get herself involved in something that could be so destructive to a family.
Like I said, it doesn't have to be an affair. Adam and Vic could easily just drift apart and split up, like they have in the past. Maybe Adam wont be able to have kids or something.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:49
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Also does Ross really see Adam as his brother? Is Adam really his brother? It could of easily been Ross' sock that James got out of that washing basket.
That was bloody ridiculous, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure IRL they either use a swab inside the cheek or draw a blood sample, and I suppose Rebecca using hair was fairly realistic too, but a sock from the washing basket full of other peoples dirty clothes? Surely it wouldn't have one trace of DNA on it, but a bit of everyone's. How did James not get a letter back saying "get us a proper sample, idiot!"

I remember think Kevin using Jack's dummy in Corrie was bad, but I'm more inclined to believe that than sock one! It was the most unrealistic DNA test I have ever seen on TV
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:00
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That was bloody ridiculous, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure IRL they either use a swab inside the cheek or draw a blood sample, and I suppose Rebecca using hair was fairly realistic too, but a sock from the washing basket full of other peoples dirty clothes? Surely it wouldn't have one trace of DNA on it, but a bit of everyone's. How did James not get a letter back saying "get us a proper sample, idiot!"

I remember think Kevin using Jack's dummy in Corrie was bad, but I'm more inclined to believe that than sock one! It was the most unrealistic DNA test I have ever seen on TV
Yep, I still refuse to believe that Adam is James' son. Do any of the characters know how James got the DNA?
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:10
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That was bloody ridiculous, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure IRL they either use a swab inside the cheek or draw a blood sample, and I suppose Rebecca using hair was fairly realistic too, but a sock from the washing basket full of other peoples dirty clothes? Surely it wouldn't have one trace of DNA on it, but a bit of everyone's. How did James not get a letter back saying "get us a proper sample, idiot!"

I remember think Kevin using Jack's dummy in Corrie was bad, but I'm more inclined to believe that than sock one! It was the most unrealistic DNA test I have ever seen on TV
Tbf, to fit the sl, it was clearly mentioned that even though Adumb had left home, Moira still did his washing for him, so at least in theory that dirty washing basket was all his stuff for Moira to collect and wash for him. Sweat (and the socky skin flakes) is a decent enough medium for DNA collection.

The point is, if no character argues the point it's because we're supposed to take it as fact. Same with Moses being Dross's spawn - knowing Charity as we do, he could've been pretty much anybody's lol, but Dross didn't query it, ask for proof etc because ED have decided 'it's a fact' and the sl moves from there.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:20
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Tbf, to fit the sl, it was clearly mentioned that even though Adumb had left home, Moira still did his washing for him, so at least in theory that dirty washing basket was all his stuff for Moira to collect and wash for him. Sweat (and the socky skin flakes) is a decent enough medium for DNA collection.

The point is, if no character argues the point it's because we're supposed to take it as fact. Same with Moses being Dross's spawn - knowing Charity as we do, he could've been pretty much anybody's lol, but Dross didn't query it, ask for proof etc because ED have decided 'it's a fact' and the sl moves from there.
Until, of course, they decide it's not fact and retcon it all with an off-screen explanation.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:30
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Until, of course, they decide it's not fact and retcon it all with an off-screen explanation.
Gaaaah!!!! Don't mention the off-screen retcon!!!!! I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:31
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Tbf, to fit the sl, it was clearly mentioned that even though Adumb had left home, Moira still did his washing for him, so at least in theory that dirty washing basket was all his stuff for Moira to collect and wash for him. Sweat (and the socky skin flakes) is a decent enough medium for DNA collection.

The point is, if no character argues the point it's because we're supposed to take it as fact. Same with Moses being Dross's spawn - knowing Charity as we do, he could've been pretty much anybody's lol, but Dross didn't query it, ask for proof etc because ED have decided 'it's a fact' and the sl moves from there.
Its cheap piss-poor storytelling is what it is - throwing something together with the vaguest of credibility and assuming that the audience is too enamoured with the *shockingness / twist / sensationalism (*delete as you deem appropriate) - to question the sophistication (or lack of it) of the actual narrative.

And (as Sam Cains points out) - it gives the show free will to backtrack and retcon the event anytime they might feel is necessary.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:54
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Tbf, to fit the sl, it was clearly mentioned that even though Adumb had left home, Moira still did his washing for him, so at least in theory that dirty washing basket was all his stuff for Moira to collect and wash for him. Sweat (and the socky skin flakes) is a decent enough medium for DNA collection.
I forgot that, suppose it makes a little more sense then.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:55
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I forgot that, suppose it makes a little more sense then.
It makes about as much sense as Sammeh trying to do soduku
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Old 13-11-2016, 15:31
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It makes about as much sense as Sammeh trying to do soduku
And sodu2.
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Old 13-11-2016, 15:48
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Tbf, to fit the sl, it was clearly mentioned that even though Adumb had left home, Moira still did his washing for him, so at least in theory that dirty washing basket was all his stuff for Moira to collect and wash for him. Sweat (and the socky skin flakes) is a decent enough medium for DNA collection.

The point is, if no character argues the point it's because we're supposed to take it as fact. Same with Moses being Dross's spawn - knowing Charity as we do, he could've been pretty much anybody's lol, but Dross didn't query it, ask for proof etc because ED have decided 'it's a fact' and the sl moves from there.
What would be Charitys reason to lie about Ross being Moses' dad?
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Old 13-11-2016, 16:13
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What would be Charitys reason to lie about Ross being Moses' dad?
I've forgotten the background to it now - did she want to make sure Debbie stayed away from him? Or she wanted to use him in one of her schemes?

I'm not saying she necessarily did lie, but it's just another example whereby irl, he wouldn't just take her word for it - he would've wanted a dna test, considering he and everyone else knows Charity shags anybody she can make use of.
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Old 13-11-2016, 18:04
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Not a bad week of episodes this week Aside from Elizabeth Estensen's overacting
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Old 13-11-2016, 18:40
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I've forgotten the background to it now - did she want to make sure Debbie stayed away from him? Or she wanted to use him in one of her schemes?

I'm not saying she necessarily did lie, but it's just another example whereby irl, he wouldn't just take her word for it - he would've wanted a dna test, considering he and everyone else knows Charity shags anybody she can make use of.
It can always be brought up again when Moses is 10 if the writers ever run out of storylines
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Old 13-11-2016, 20:21
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Its cheap piss-poor storytelling is what it is - throwing something together with the vaguest of credibility and assuming that the audience is too enamoured with the *shockingness / twist / sensationalism (*delete as you deem appropriate) - to question the sophistication (or lack of it) of the actual narrative.

And (as Sam Cains points out) - it gives the show free will to backtrack and retcon the event anytime they might feel is necessary.
But Adam would get to keep James' legacy, I'm sure!
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Old 13-11-2016, 22:14
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It can always be brought up again when Moses is 10 if the writers ever run out of storylines
I would so SO love it if when the kid's about 3, somebody walks past and says, you know he's the spit of that Declan Macey. In Megan's hearing. Then she would turn around, and look at him closely, his tufty little hair standing up and ... BINGO.

I know it's too late for this, but heck, I can dream.
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