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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Mark_Washingto1
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“She's an idiot and it's always about memememememe. ”

That is not true, she is 100% about Aaron right now.
Oldnjaded
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“That is not true, she is 100% about Aaron right now.”

Yes, but only in her head! Sure she cares about him, but everything she does is to indulge her own feelings, her own anger against Gordon etc. (Silly bint probably feels like a total idiot now for going back to shagging him and making him a partner in the pub etc, as well she might). But she needs to stop thinking about it from her p.o.v. and start thinking rationally about what's best for Waaaron. Not a mum myself but I'm pretty sure you know instinctively how best to help your child and she sure isn't doing that, as we've clearly seen).
kwynne42
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“The fact that she hasn't strangled Gordon with her bare hands show she has restraint to me.”

Ok she has a tiny bit of self control.
kwynne42
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, but only in her head! Sure she cares about him, but everything she does is to indulge her own feelings, her own anger against Gordon etc. (Silly bint probably feels like a total idiot now for going back to shagging him and making him a partner in the pub etc, as well she might). But she needs to stop thinking about it from her p.o.v. and start thinking rationally about what's best for Waaaron. Not a mum myself but I'm pretty sure you know instinctively how best to help your child and she sure isn't doing that, as we've clearly seen). ”

In Chas's head its 90% empty space, of the 10% remaining its 30% all about me, 20% all about Aaron and 50% i'm desperate for sex so what totally inappropriate relationship amd I going to start with the worst possible man and damn the consequences.
Alleycat666
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Aww, you're going to miss out on the MAJOR twist! However will you cope?

I'll be watching for the giggles. Plus I want to watch the David stuff which is way better.”

I caved and watched - and the David stuff was good - it's nice to see that sometimes ED remember their past with him talking to Zak.
Mark_Washingto1
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, but only in her head! Sure she cares about him, but everything she does is to indulge her own feelings, her own anger against Gordon etc. (Silly bint probably feels like a total idiot now for going back to shagging him and making him a partner in the pub etc, as well she might). But she needs to stop thinking about it from her p.o.v. and start thinking rationally about what's best for Waaaron. Not a mum myself but I'm pretty sure you know instinctively how best to help your child and she sure isn't doing that, as we've clearly seen). ”

I really don't think its all about Chas, she has shown how she puts Aaron first like accepting Robert in his life even though she hates him and letting Liv stay with them
Oldnjaded
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“In Chas's head its 90% empty space, of the 10% remaining its 30% all about me, 20% all about Aaron and 50% i'm desperate for sex so what totally inappropriate relationship amd I going to start with the worst possible man and damn the consequences.”

Yep! That sounds like a pretty fair summation to me.
rollockingbat
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“But she needs to stop thinking about it from her p.o.v. and start thinking rationally about what's best for Waaaron. ”

Love this!
samcains90
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, but only in her head! Sure she cares about him, but everything she does is to indulge her own feelings, her own anger against Gordon etc. (Silly bint probably feels like a total idiot now for going back to shagging him and making him a partner in the pub etc, as well she might). But she needs to stop thinking about it from her p.o.v. and start thinking rationally about what's best for Waaaron. Not a mum myself but I'm pretty sure you know instinctively how best to help your child and she sure isn't doing that, as we've clearly seen). ”

Like mother like son.

Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“I caved and watched - and the David stuff was good - it's nice to see that sometimes ED remember their past with him talking to Zak.”

Probably one of the best written scenes in a while, I thought.

Unlike the trial in which Aaron's Lawyer only objected to badgering once the opposing lawyer had already got a riled Aaron to respond.
kwynne42
14-04-2016
Since there is no Soaplife this week here are the ITV Press Centre Spoilers for the week of 25-29 April

Spoiler
7485 Monday 25 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

Tracy discovers a secret
Holly covers for Cain
Finn gets an idea

7486 Tuesday 26 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

It’s a big day for Finn
David lashes out
Belle gets some news

7487 Wednesday 27 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

The stakes are high for Lisa
Finn plays hardball
Jai feels hopeful

7488 Thursday 28 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

Marlon is unimpressed
Tracy worries about David
Megan’s fundraiser gets underway

7489 TX Thursday 21 April 2016 8pm – 8.30pm

Belle plays a dangerous game
Ross feels guilty
David makes a decision

7490 TX Friday 22 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

David puts on a brave face
Lisa gives Belle food for thought
Harriet worries about Ashley


Besides not being able to tell the date properly they look fairly bland
kwynne42
14-04-2016
Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

The trial continues to bore and Kwynne has complained to OFCOM about Emmerdale falsely claiming there were upsetting scenes in the epiosde

1) Liv - Kwynne actually watched her give evidence the only evidence I've scene from this stupid case, great little actress she is, Liv didn't really want to upset anyone until crybaby blundered in and refused to let her stay,.

2( Crybaby - never knowingly do the right thing, would it have put him out much by promising to let her stay when not really meaning it.

3) Robert - A shell of a character these days.

4) David named his bits and now sad to lose him, trying to do the patented soap thing of pushing all his friends and relatives away when he should be relyi ng on them, why do soap character do that, its annoying and makes bad drama.

5) eric might not cope if David dies.

Sidebar - not exactly encouraging for people with this disease is it, likely to scare them unnecessarily.

6) Megan and her baby's christening part 2 - so bored by this point I Fast forwarded through that as well
kwynne42
14-04-2016
Weekly Bulletin of the Malt Shovel.

The trail of Gordon Livesy has started his son Aaron Dingle has accused him of Child abuse when he was a child, the Malt will keep reader informed of the Verdict next week.

Home Farm tenant farmer Irma Peacock was killed in a hit run accident this week, its believed she was hit by a Red BMW on the connelton road at 4pm last friday police are appealing for witnesses, PC Swirling said Police were keen to interview the driver.

A van was stopped and robbed on Tuesday by a man wearing a scarf, the van driver was severely beaten and is in a coma, this came jsut days after Andy Sugden was subject to a beating along the same strech of road.

400 Turkeys escaped from Oldfield road when Animal rights extremists released them from their pens, most are still at large.

The wildcat that has been stalking the area has struck again it killed 3 sheep and a 6 month old Llama belonging to farmer Brown. Later it was spotted by Sam Dingle who fored on it but missed.
sheepiefarm
15-04-2016
So - there you have it - the Rape & Redeem story is reaching its conclusion - unsurprisingly the "Redemption" half of the story has become more important than the Rape part of it.

The trial of child rapist Gordon Livesy has been dull to say the least - and he will probably get convicted on the testimony of a 14 year old character we've only known for 5 minutes. A character who's only known both protagonist AND victim for a couple of months.

But hey-ho - this entire incestual childhood rape story has been nothing more than a cheap cover-story.
Turn a character's father into a rapist to redeem a murderous boyfriend.

The Homoerotic fanfiction of Robron continues.................................
cyrilandshirley
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Since there is no Soaplife this week here are the ITV Press Centre Spoilers for the week of 25-29 April

Spoiler
7485 Monday 25 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

Tracy discovers a secret
Holly covers for Cain
Finn gets an idea - he decides to put milk in his tea second

7486 Tuesday 26 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

It’s a big day for Finn - he finally tries out the milk idea at breakfast
David lashes out
Belle gets some news

7487 Wednesday 27 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

The stakes are high for Lisa
Finn plays hardball - he refuses to make tea for Ross
Jai feels hopeful

7488 Thursday 28 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

Marlon is unimpressed
Tracy worries about David
Megan’s fundraiser gets underway

7489 TX Thursday 21 April 2016 8pm – 8.30pm

Belle plays a dangerous game
Ross feels guilty
David makes a decision

7490 TX Friday 22 April 2016 7pm – 7.30pm

David puts on a brave face
Lisa gives Belle food for thought
Harriet worries about Ashley


Besides not being able to tell the date properly they look fairly bland”

FINN'S BIG STORYLINE!

Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“So - there you have it - the Rape & Redeem story is reaching its conclusion - unsurprisingly the "Redemption" half of the story has become more important than the Rape part of it.

The trial of child rapist Gordon Livesy has been dull to say the least - and he will probably get convicted on the testimony of a 14 year old character we've only known for 5 minutes. A character who's only known both protagonist AND victim for a couple of months.

But hey-ho - this entire incestual childhood rape story has been nothing more than a cheap cover-story.
Turn a character's father into a rapist to redeem a murderous boyfriend.

The Homoerotic fanfiction of Robron continues.................................”

Of course! Exactly what everyone expected. Child rape as a romantic plot device and homoerotic wank fantasy.

Real shame what they did to Gordon to achieve it as well.
Andybear
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“So - there you have it - the Rape & Redeem story is reaching its conclusion - unsurprisingly the "Redemption" half of the story has become more important than the Rape part of it.

The trial of child rapist Gordon Livesy has been dull to say the least - and he will probably get convicted on the testimony of a 14 year old character we've only known for 5 minutes. A character who's only known both protagonist AND victim for a couple of months.

But hey-ho - this entire incestual childhood rape story has been nothing more than a cheap cover-story.
Turn a character's father into a rapist to redeem a murderous boyfriend.

The Homoerotic fanfiction of Robron continues.................................”


Excellent post. The end of last night’s second episode said it all. I can imagine TPTW saying: “Let’s have Aaron and Robert snogging at the end of the episode that the trial finishes in. Then all the Robron fans will be in raptures and we’ll get loads of awards’.
Francy
15-04-2016
Except that Danny Miller said he was told about the child rape storyline when he was contracting his return, way before any Robron happened and way before there was a Robert to redeem. So no, the incestual rape storyline wasn't concocted to reunite Robron, although the writers obviously chose to kill two birds with one stone.
Oldnjaded
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“Except that Danny Miller said he was told about the child rape storyline when he was contracting his return, way before any Robron happened and way before there was a Robert to redeem. So no, the incestual rape storyline wasn't concocted to reunite Robron, although the writers obviously chose to kill two birds with one stone.”

Which return? In January this year he told DS Kate Oates first mentioned it to him.

"It started off from a conversation between myself and [Emmerdale's former producer] Kate Oates, which was a while ago now. Aaron had come out as gay all those years ago, but he was still very troubled and I think we needed something more to explain why he has so many problems."
cyrilandshirley
15-04-2016
To be honest, if they wanted to run big Suffering Diva story for Aaron - and obviously they would, that's all he does - they should have just done it. Turning it into Robron fanfiction has just torpedoed the whole thing as any kind of serious storyline.

But anyway, it's over now, so hopefully we can just forget the whole ridiculous thing and move on.

Can we have some decent storylines back please?

More Billy Corkhill and his secret history with Larry please, thanks.
HOAddict
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“To be honest, if they wanted to run big Suffering Diva story for Aaron - and obviously they would, that's all he does - they should have just done it. Turning it into Robron fanfiction has just torpedoed the whole thing as any kind of serious storyline.

But anyway, it's over now, so hopefully we can just forget the whole ridiculous thing and move on.

Can we have some decent storylines back please?

More Billy Corkhill and his secret history with Larry please, thanks. ”

Yes, glad to see the back of it - although I'm sure there will still be plenty of moaning, weeping and wailing to come.

Liv is a great little actress. I hope they make good use of her and don't just slot her in to the usual teenage nonsense.
cyrilandshirley
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by HOAddict:
“Yes, glad to see the back of it - although I'm sure there will still be plenty of moaning, weeping and wailing to come.

Liv is a great little actress. I hope they make good use of her and don't just slot her in to the usual teenage nonsense.”

I spoke a bit soon. According to spoilers, the coast isn't clear until next Thursday.

I don't care for Liv myself, she gives me the irrits. But as long as there's other storylines coming our way, I can happily look the other way.
kwynne42
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I spoke a bit soon. According to spoilers, the coast isn't clear until next Thursday.

I don't care for Liv myself, she gives me the irrits. But as long as there's other storylines coming our way, I can happily look the other way. ”

Aw Liv is great well maybe not now she has helped crybaby out, but the actress is rather good..

I'd say she could stay but I couldn't bear all the child hating whining that would go on round here is she did heh.
sheepiefarm
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“Except that Danny Miller said he was told about the child rape storyline when he was contracting his return, way before any Robron happened and way before there was a Robert to redeem. So no, the incestual rape storyline wasn't concocted to reunite Robron, although the writers obviously chose to kill two birds with one stone.”

It's irrelevant "when" the rape storyline was first being "talked" about.


What came to the screen was a storyline where a character's father was turned into an incestual child rapist, and THAT was used as a romantic backdrop with a character who tried to murder his mother.


Its pretty sick when you think about it.
kwynne42
15-04-2016
Analysis of last nights episode

I find myself unable to put into word just how much I hated last nights episode.

What a revolting travesty the entire storyline has been, just a giant excuse to get the two worst characters on TV back together, how utterly crass the whole thing is.

Abuse of Children is supposed to be a serious subject shame on Emmerdale to use that to get 2 second rate and thats generous character to this point.


SHAME is letter 2000 metres tall

Shame

Now Kate Oates can finish of whats left of Corrie after The Evil Demon hat reign

Shame Emmerdale Shame.

And comedy Vet and Pearl stryk=lines are not going to blind me to the shame.

Nor Rhona's endlessly boring jealousy storyline.

And they should be used to terrible complaints what with Vanessa or Paddy neglecting and killing animals every other week

You certainly not distracting me from the Shame with Zak not stealing from the pot but the pot itself and you cretin Zak Eric once again has ripped you off.

As for Dull Dan's dull querst to have the dull house to himself and Kerry I don't care because of the Shame.

Shame Emmerdale Shame

SHAME

And to help rid of the shame it Returns

Way How to Kill Aaron

part 10234 The Pits of hell open up and Aaron falls in and is subjected to an eternity of torture for being a horribly acted crybaby character.
kaiserbee
15-04-2016
One only had to take a look at EDs official Twitter posts last night to understand why some of us are repulsed by this whole Robron crap.
samcains90
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by kaiserbee:
“One only had to take a look at EDs official Twitter posts last night to understand why some of us are repulsed by this whole Robron crap.”

Oh that was so cringeworthy.

I would look forward to them disappearing now that they're a couple, like every other couple, but that's not going to happen is it?
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