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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL well Andy wouldn't have to give all the details and correct me if I'm wrong but Debbie gave Ross a false alibi for the shooting so she won't say anything cuz she'd be in trouble too.”

Andy wouldn't but Debbie would, she wouldn't get in to much trouble especially if she agreed to testify, it's to much of a risk for Andy I think the secret will come out shortly anyway
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Andy wouldn't but Debbie would, she wouldn't get in to much trouble especially if she agreed to testify, it's to much of a risk for Andy I think the secret will come out shortly anyway”

True but what about the Dingle Code? Dingles don't grass!!!
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“True but what about the Dingle Code? Dingles don't grass!!!”

Cain removed that code a while back, also it would be Andy that would be doing the grassing, it's ironic when the kids were her neither of them wanted them
Jimmy Skitz
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“True but what about the Dingle Code? Dingles don't grass!!!”

on each other, Andy isn't a Dingle
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Skitz:
“on each other, Andy isn't a Dingle”

He is a Dingle baby daddy, doesn't that count?
Jimmy Skitz
20-04-2016
apparently not, maybe if they actually got married
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Cain removed that code a while back, also it would be Andy that would be doing the grassing, it's ironic when the kids were her neither of them wanted them”

Andy has always wanted the kids, its Debbie who couldn't be bothered with them, she was too busy letting Ross smash in the back of some car.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Andy has always wanted the kids, its Debbie who couldn't be bothered with them, she was too busy letting Ross smash in the back of some car.”

He would have lost his kids anyway if he got sent down for murder, with Pete back soon I think his secret will be out by summer anyway
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“He would have lost his kids anyway if he got sent down for murder, with Pete back soon I think his secret will be out by summer anyway”

You think the truth about that will come out? That would mean Ross going to jail for attempted murder. Kate Oates would murder Ian McLeod in cold blood if he dared to write her beloved Ross out of the show.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“You think the truth about that will come out? That would mean Ross going to jail for attempted murder. Kate Oates would murder Ian McLeod in cold blood if he dared to write her beloved Ross out of the show.”

If Kate Oates is still involved I think she will allow Ross to use a monopoly get of jail free card at hotter station, and also with how thick those police are they probably would too.

I think it has to come out doesn't it, isn't that the rule in soaps that nothing can stay a secret and it comes out just as you've finally found happiness, I think it's a invetibilty it comes out but I don't belivie he will get charged.
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“If Kate Oates is still involved I think she will allow Ross to use a monopoly get of jail free card at hotter station, and also with how thick those police are they probably would too.

I think it has to come out doesn't it, isn't that the rule in soaps that nothing can stay a secret and it comes out just as you've finally found happiness, I think it's a invetibilty it comes out but I don't belivie he will get charged.”

Robert and Andy have yet to pay for that teacher whose death they were involved in, Robert for Max King's demise and Carl was never caught for killing Tom King or that other guy.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Robert and Andy have yet to pay for that teacher whose death they were involved in, Robert for Max King's demise and Carl was never caught for killing Tom King or that other guy.”

They did pay for the teacher they all got community service,and Marc got time for it.

Max King was Andys and Roberts fault, he also got punished in the sense that he was banished from the village. Tom King I don't really remember didn't he secret come out but the police didn't find out, soaps always have to have karma

I don't think Andy will get sent down but I do think he will be punished in some other way for what he did.
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“They did pay for the teacher they all got community service,and Marc got time for it.

Max King was Andys and Roberts fault, he also got punished in the sense that he was banished from the village. Tom King I don't really remember didn't he secret come out but the police didn't find out, soaps always have to have karma

I don't think Andy will get sent down but I do think he will be punished in some other way for what he did.”

I blame Robert for Max King's death he set that whole situation in motion by getting Debbie to leave the village with him. As for Tom King I think that detective found out the truth but she got killed before she could tell what happened.

Maybe Kate Oates felt Debbie taking the kids away from Andy was his punishment, but Ross and Robert still need to pay for their crimes, they go around killing and attempting to kill people with little to no consequences.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I blame Robert for Max King's death he set that whole situation in motion by getting Debbie to leave the village with him. As for Tom King I think that detective found out the truth but she got killed before she could tell what happened.

Maybe Kate Oates felt Debbie taking the kids away from Andy was his punishment, but Ross and Robert still need to pay for their crimes, they go around killing and attempting to kill people with little to no consequences.”

So does Andy, I don't think losing his kid is his punishment they will be back soon enough. I think it will be enough for everyone to see him for what he really is, he plays the victim like Cain said and makes himself out to be a much better person than he is

Pete, Robert and Katie with a shotgun, he was equally involved in Max's death and admitted to much as Robert that he was going to drIve into him untill max grabbed the wheel, all the beating he give Jo.

Robert and Andy are both equally bad.
Jimmy Skitz
20-04-2016
Carl confessed to the Detective but the other King brother killed her in a hit and run
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“So does Andy, I don't think losing his kid is his punishment they will be back soon enough. I think it will be enough for everyone to see him for what he really is, he plays the victim like Cain said and makes himself out to be a much better person than he is

Pete, Robert and Katie with a shotgun, he was equally involved in Max's death and admitted to much as Robert that he was going to drIve into him untill max grabbed the wheel, all the beating he give Jo.

Robert and Andy are both equally bad.”

I gotta disagree. Andy has his faults and has done some bad things but most of the time Robert drove him to those desperate acts, also Andy has shown remorse for his actions where as Robert has shown none. Robert talked all that BS about being a better person for Aaron and then he goes and pulls a Kim Tate on Lawrence a few weeks ago. Robert is has no morals and will do anything to get his way including murder.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I gotta disagree. Andy has his faults and has done some bad things but most of the time Robert drove him to those desperate acts, also Andy has shown remorse for his actions where as Robert has shown none. Robert talked all that BS about being a better person for Aaron and then he goes and pulls a Kim Tate on Lawrence a few weeks ago. Robert is has no morals and will do anything to get his way including murder.”

Robert wasn't around when Andy was beating his wife or when he wa getting aggressive And controlling of Adele.

Robert also had nothing to do with him trying to kill Pete a man who did nothing to him, also Andy was going to let Lawrence go to prison for a murder he arranged, maybe that's where his punishment will come from. Andy and Robert are both coward who never have the balls to admit what they have done Andy face the consequences,
Jimmy Skitz
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Robert wasn't around when Andy was beating his wife or when he wa getting aggressive And controlling of Adele.

Robert also had nothing to do with him trying to kill Pete a man who did nothing to him, also Andy was going to let Lawrence go to prison for a murder he arranged, maybe that's where his punishment will come from. Andy and Robert are both coward who never have the balls to admit what they have done Andy face the consequences,”

actually he did if you remember the plot, he was to kill Pete in exchange for Ross killing Robert, who Andy only wanted to kill because he killed his wife
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Skitz:
“actually he did if you remember the plot, he was to kill Pete in exchange for Ross killing Robert, who Andy only wanted to kill because he killed his wife”

That's a weak justification, he only wanted ross to do it so he could get away with it. So Petes life means nothing to him as long as he gets both his freedom and Robert killed, his desire for revenge agains Robert is understandable, his willingness to kill a man he thinks of a friend as collateral damage shows what scum he is.
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Robert wasn't around when Andy was beating his wife or when he wa getting aggressive And controlling of Adele.

Robert also had nothing to do with him trying to kill Pete a man who did nothing to him, also Andy was going to let Lawrence go to prison for a murder he arranged, maybe that's where his punishment will come from. Andy and Robert are both coward who never have the balls to admit what they have done Andy face the consequences,”

Not that it excuses Andy's behavior but I think his treatment of Jo stemmed from the Robert/Katie affair. Also when Andy does bad things he isn't being manipulative its usually out of internal issues he's having. As for Killing Pete, Robert was the driving force behind it. Andy has admitted his wrong doings and tries to better but the same can't be said for Robert, he's been talking a good game to Aaron but leaving Lawrence to die showed he hasn't changed one bit.
Andybear
20-04-2016
Nico_D - you really hate Andy don't you.
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Not that it excuses Andy's behavior but I think his treatment of Jo stemmed from the Robert/Katie affair. Also when Andy does bad things he isn't being manipulative its usually out of internal issues he's having. As for Killing Pete, Robert was the driving force behind it. Andy has admitted his wrong doings and tries to better but the same can't be said for Robert, he's been talking a good game to Aaron but leaving Lawrence to die showed he hasn't changed one bit.”

Admitted them but never took responsibility
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Nico_D - you really hate Andy don't you.”

I do, to the point it's bordering on a personality disorder
Mark_Washingto1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Admitted them but never took responsibility”

I think he has, he went a got help after beating Jo, he admitted to Robert what he did and agreed to bury the hatchet. What more do you want from him?
Nico_D
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I think he has, he went a got help after beating Jo, he admitted to Robert what he did and agreed to bury the hatchet. What more do you want from him?”

Police confession, and stop acting like a victim
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