he works for free providing you say the phrase "Aaron Livesy Must DIE!!!"

LOL maybe he will do it out of the goodness of his heart

He can take them both out at the same time in a freak steam roller accident.

I wanted Belle to punch her in the throat last night.

I am confused by this story, I get it soaps want to make it impartial so that picking a side isn't always so clear cut, but is anyone actually supporting Joanie? Do the writer's expect any of us to feel sorry for her? Because if there's one character I really don't feel sorry for, it's her.

A shame too because I liked the actress when she first started, this story has done her (and Kerry) no favours.

PS. Glad we got some Finn last night, just a shame it was with Tracy. Also props to Eden who is very professional in her scenes with the Doctor. Very convincing kisser unlike someone else I could mention.

I liked her! It's nothing against the actress. She was great as Kyle's granny. I didn't even mind her having this little moment with Zak. But they should have decided not to act on it, shown some flaming dignity and kindness. They're not teenagers FFS! Specially not when Belle's been so unstable, and it's not as if Zak didn't still love Lisa.

It's made me loathe Zak, he's weak and pathetic and selfish. And Joanie is just vile.

SEND THEM AWAY.

This was honestly not what I was expecting to have to sit through when they started this story.

It winds me up to no end that they both walk around the village acting as though they have done nothing wrong.

I think Joanie secretly likes the drama, she's has purposely forced herself into a conflict with Lisa & Belle by getting a job where they both work.

I even quite liked the affair to start with just when I thought it was leading to a Lisa exit. Now I know it hasn't I can't stand to watch either of them on screen together.

That entire scene with the kid at the hospital was like a cancer awareness advert plonked into the middle of a soap.

Cute teenage lad with his brave heroic tale - all it lacked was a banner scrolling across the screen saying "Check your nads boys"


Seriously - when a soap has reached the point where it has to invent a third party character to tell the story, then its completely lost its way narratively.
The "issue" has become more important than the character.

Let's all feel bad for David because he's got testicular cancer - and he's "all alone" with this burden.

Ditto from me; and a lad of that age would have had a parent or guardian with him.

A £1 and the train fair from Manchester Deansgate

Well, sorry that you don't like it. All drama requires a certain level of artifice and suspension of belief. Plot devices, eg deus ex machina, have been about in drama since the beginning of time, and have been used by all the great writers, from classical times to today. Not that I'm trying to make out that Emmerdale is great drama - it's not, it's soap.

But surely, the story as unfolded is not that David is all alone and that we should, therefore, feel sorry for him. David is surrounded with people who love him and will support him. The issue is that he pushes them all away and tries to act the hard man who deals with it all on his own.

No doubt the story will be that, in the fullness of time, the act will break down and those around him will have to pick up the pieces. It is, of course, a cliche, and it isn't the only such cliche being acted out in Emmerdale just now. But, with a finite number of possible stories and the need to fill the time with drama, what else is to be expected?

And I'm sure the written synopsis the storyline team had before them pretty much looked as you have written it.
But the sophistication is in how it gets brought to the screen - does it have an organic flow of narrative, or is it clunky.
Do the plot devices moments jar or do they scream out "contrived moment".
Does the dialogue feel natural from the character or does it sound like the dialogue is driving the plot.

For me - this narrative feels plot driven more than organically character driven (especially the scene with the Dylan kid).


ps - no need to feel sorry for me - its an open public forum I've been posting on for over 6 years - a little sarcasm won't stop me commenting

That's an unusually well thought out and well argued post Teifiboi and for only the 3rd time ever I completely agree with you.

Credit where credit is due heh

No sarcasm was intended. Neither was there any intention to discourage you from posting.

Glad that we can agree on something!

I certainly thought that when David said "up yours cancer". I want soapy entertainment not charity cliches.

Does ED execs know that it's a soap not a public information service?

Something is bugging me...does Emmerdale exist in some part of the country where normal legal niceties dont apply?

I nearly choked on my pasty when the cops arrived (obviously the only ones employed in Emmerland) to arrest Zak for arson...based on what evidence exactly? Surely outside of Emmerland he would have been asked to answer a couple of questions (possibly under caution) and not hauled off in handcuffs.

Conversely where someone is so blatantly lying it is laughable the Emmerland police fail to notice and go and arrest the wrong person again and again and again...it must be impossible to convict anyone since all the defence have to do is point out the incompetent idiots have already arrested 7 people for the crime so how can their client be guilty!

Analysis of Emmerdale Storylines

1) Tracy got in there while Davids private bits are still in relatively good working over, before he needs the permanant use of Viagra to get it working.

2) Tracy is a good character when she is with David pity about the rest of the time.

3) Victoria dear you rancid hag get yourself to the nearest hairdresser because the Emmerdale hair stylist obviously hate you a much as I do now I know who you shag in real life.

4) Once agian moaning about Dr Bailey and Belle, nobody at all had a problem with Vanessa and Kirin.

5) Cain isn't at all going to think Belle is with Rakesh rather than Dr Bailey

6) Megans baby has Ms Miserable horse face as a mother and Jai as a dad so no wonder she hasn't smiled

7) Doug and Diane are back oh joy.

8) Can Charity please raise the money so we can stop hearing about this nonsense

9) Finn - even geeks would stay away from Emmerdale even if there was a convention, hell even Superheroes would stay away from the village because of the danger.

10)Cain forgot Moira birthday and was helped by Holly, they will be shagging within the month and then everyone can moan about their age difference as well..

Come on kwynne, it's Tuesday - where are the Spoilers please?

BiB : The answer to this is a resounding 'YES', so we just have to accept it and never ask logical questions......about anything.......ever.

Not a soaplife week and the ITV Press Centre is being very cagey with their spoilers which suggest something big in 2 weeks.

Ooooh, tantalising!

ITV spoilers are usually out on Wednesdays.

Currently fuming about the Edna storyline. The Harriet actress should just quit, it's obvious that she's only ever going to play second fiddle to the John / Charlotte "dream team".

She should quit because she is a far too good an actress to be in a soap.

I read that as


Which would have been a turnup for the books.