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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Alleycat666
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by lucy_marwood:
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Or he's losing intrest in acting and concentrating on racing
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Could well be this - he was at the Goodwood Festival of speed this year.
kwynne42
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by lucy_marwood:
“
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Or he's losing intrest in acting and concentrating on racing
”

Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Could well be this - he was at the Goodwood Festival of speed this year.”

Seriously? all that bad actor said was that
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Andy/Kelvin wasn't the first up to do Karaoke anymore, how does that suddenly mean he's taken up racing full time or that he's left the show?. Probably one of the younger cast members is now quickest
kwynne42
18-07-2016
By the way chums my much delayed work thing now starts in 4 weeks time, my bosses need some kind of medal for procrastination.

So those who don't like analysis central and all its works hard cheese and those who do like it will still have it for a month.
Nico_D
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Seriously? all that bad actor said was that
Spoiler
Andy/Kelvin wasn't the first up to do Karaoke anymore, how does that suddenly mean he's taken up racing full time or that he's left the show?. Probably one of the younger cast members is now quickest
”

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It's more the fact that he is racing competitively and is now part of two racing teams

A) it's been released by the producer that someone tied to home farm will be leaving the show soon, this is also on the digital spy mover and leavers page

B) it's been confirmed that chrissie is going to frame Andy for attempted murder when Lachlan shoots Lawrence

C) thespoilers on the previous page list the following spoilers

Andy going on the run from the police

Robert bringing him a fake passport and new clothes

Andy and Robert have an emotional farewell

All this together makes it seem very likely that kelvin/ Andy has left the show, they had Cain run from the police and brought back years later on the premise he gave evidence against some gangsters. When Andy goes on the run that will just ba added to the charge of attempted murder against Larry, so even if he's caught it would be difficult to them write a scenario where he doesn't go to prison.

Oldnjaded
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“
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It's more the fact that he is racing competitively and is now part of two racing teams

A) it's been released by the producer that someone tied to home farm will be leaving the show soon, this is also on the digital spy mover and leavers page

B) it's been confirmed that chrissie is going to frame Andy for attempted murder when Lachlan shoots Lawrence

C) thespoilers on the previous page list the following spoilers

Andy going on the run from the police

Robert bringing him a fake passport and new clothes

Andy and Robert have an emotional farewell

All this together makes it seem very likely that kelvin/ Andy has left the show, they had Cain run from the police and brought back years later on the premise he gave evidence against some gangsters. When Andy goes on the run that will just ba added to the charge of attempted murder against Larry, so even if he's caught it would be difficult to them write a scenario where he doesn't go to prison.

”

Yes, I agree with all that. I do think they'll leave the door open so that when he eventually realises he's not actually Stirling Moss he can come back again.
ianradioian
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“By the way chums my much delayed work thing now starts in 4 weeks time, my bosses need some kind of medal for procrastination.

So those who don't like analysis central and all its works hard cheese and those who do like it will still have it for a month.”

I do like to peruse Analysis Central
Hound of Love
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, I agree with all that. I do think they'll leave the door open so that when he eventually realises he's not actually Stirling Moss he can come back again. ”



A Christmas return on the cards, then.

Possibly.
Nico_D
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“

A Christmas return on the cards, then.

Possibly.”

I would imagine that would be long enough for the police to forget they were doing an investigation
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, I agree with all that. I do think they'll leave the door open so that when he eventually realises he's not actually Stirling Moss he can come back again. ”

Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“

A Christmas return on the cards, then.

Possibly.”

Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“I would imagine that would be long enough for the police to forget they were doing an investigation”

Being a bit presumptuous aren't you all, no one has even confirmed he's leaving as yet heh anyway I assumed the person leaving would be
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Lawrence
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Analysis centrals comedy wish list of how it would like storylines to pan out.

1) Jacob interferes in David and Tracy's storyline, tracy goes off in a huff to Ibiza for real this time

2) sadly for Jacob, David immediately gets with Holly and they drift off in a haze of heroin

3) On a dark night Robert thinks he's kidnapping the bad Dancer again but he accidentally kidnaps Aaron and puts him in the boot, Ross who replaced Roberts car wheel didn't fasten the nuts properly and the wheel comes off, while Robert is phoning for help a Fuel Lorry crashes into the car and they both blow up killing Mr Misery.

Yes the Ways how to Kill Aaron feature is back

4) The cab firm goes bust because the radio packs in for good and Ross is always rude to his clients

5) Dr Bailey finds out Belle isn't pregnant and hitches a lift on the fuel Tanker and we know what happened to that

6) Belle mourns Jermaine for 24 hours and then moves on to her next conquest, this being a soap her next man is actually woman, yes Vanessa has finally realised she really is into Women

7) Lachlan is so angry at Lawrence he finds his gun and shoots Lawrence's prize marrow

8) And did I mention hom Farm burns down in a comedy way

9) Andy's muscles explode from the steroids he's been taking and Chrissie dumps him.
Oldnjaded
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Being a bit presumptuous aren't you all, no one has even confirmed he's leaving as yet heh anyway I assumed the person leaving would be
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Lawrence
”

I'll be very very upset if you're right.
Alleycat666
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“I'll be very very upset if you're right. ”

Me too!
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis centrals comedy wish list of how it would like storylines to pan out.

1) Jacob interferes in David and Tracy's storyline, tracy goes off in a huff to Ibiza for real this time

2) sadly for Jacob, David immediately gets with Holly and they drift off in a haze of heroin

3) On a dark night Robert thinks he's kidnapping the bad Dancer again but he accidentally kidnaps Aaron and puts him in the boot, Ross who replaced Roberts car wheel didn't fasten the nuts properly and the wheel comes off, while Robert is phoning for help a Fuel Lorry crashes into the car and they both blow up killing Mr Misery.

Yes the Ways how to Kill Aaron feature is back

4) The cab firm goes bust because the radio packs in for good and Ross is always rude to his clients

5) Dr Bailey finds out Belle isn't pregnant and hitches a lift on the fuel Tanker and we know what happened to that

6) Belle mourns Jermaine for 24 hours and then moves on to her next conquest, this being a soap her next man is actually woman, yes Vanessa has finally realised she really is into Women

7) Lachlan is so angry at Lawrence he finds his gun and shoots Lawrence's prize marrow

8) And did I mention hom Farm burns down in a comedy way

9) Andy's muscles explode from the steroids he's been taking and Chrissie dumps him.”

Thank God you're not the producer Killing off Aaron and the hottest man on soaps Andy is a crime

Here are some better alternate stories:

Aaron decides to permanently end it with Robert realizing Emmerdale's answer to JR Ewing will never change.

Chrissie's attempt to frame Andy backfires, Andy figures out the truth and dumps her.

Andy and Aarron drown their sorrows together at Woolpack get drunk and end up having sex. Arrndy becomes the hottest couple on soaps. Robert of course is fuming with jealously and plans to kill Andy.

Ross realizes he's a terrible mechanic and decides to give stand up comedy a try, he becomes so successful that he buys Mill Cottage and turns it into a comedy club.

Jacob comes up with a plan to rid David of Tracy once and for all, he drugs both Tracy and Pollard and puts them in bed together and sets it up so David walks in on them.

Lawrence still refusing to admit he's gay goes in search of a new beard. The HBIC is more than happy to help as long as he signs over the rights of Home Farm to her.
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Thank God you're not the producer Killing off Aaron and the hottest man on soaps Andy is a crime

Here are some better alternate stories:

Aaron decides to permanently end it with Robert realizing Emmerdale's answer to JR Ewing will never change.

Chrissie's attempt to frame Andy backfires, Andy figures out the truth and dumps her.

Andy and Aarron drown their sorrows together at Woolpack get drunk and end up having sex. Arrndy becomes the hottest couple on soaps. Robert of course is fuming with jealously and plans to kill Andy.

Ross realizes he's a terrible mechanic and decides to give stand up comedy a try, he becomes so successful that he buys Mill Cottage and turns it into a comedy club.

Jacob comes up with a plan to rid David of Tracy once and for all, he drugs both Tracy and Pollard and puts them in bed together and sets it up so David walks in on them.

Lawrence still refusing to admit he's gay goes in search of a new beard. The HBIC is more than happy to help as long as he signs over the rights of Home Farm to her.”

If I was producer a great many characters other than Aaron would be culled along with him

Meanwhile the Dry rot in Mill Cottage causes the roof to collapse Killing Ross, Aaron, Liv, Jacub, Sam, Dan, Lawrence, Bernice, pierce, Lisa, Dr Bailey, Joanie, Pete, Finn, Tracy, Rakesh and Megan, with it being a mercy death for Ashley..

Thats what you call a disaster
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“If I was producer a great many characters other than Aaron would be culled along with him

Meanwhile the Dry rot in Mill Cottage causes the roof to collapse Killing Ross, Aaron, Liv, Jacub, Sam, Dan, Lawrence, Bernice, pierce, Lisa, Dr Bailey, Joanie, Pete, Finn, Tracy, Rakesh and Megan, with it being a mercy death for Ashley..

Thats what you call a disaster”

LOL right it would be a disaster as you killed off a great portion of the cast

Emmerdale would be unrecognizable
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL right it would be a disaster as you killed off a great portion of the cast

Emmerdale would be unrecognizable”

We could meet some of the Characters that drink at the Malt instead, they are more interesting
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“We could meet some of the Characters that drink at the Malt instead, they are more interesting”

Maybe so but that goes against Douglas Marland's rules of how not to wreck a soap.
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Maybe so but that goes against Douglas Marland's rules of how not to wreck a soap.”

And who is Douglas Marland when he's at home?
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“And who is Douglas Marland when he's at home?”

He was the co-creator of Loving and the head writer for As the World Turns in the 80's that is credited with saving the show from cancellation. He came up with this list of rules every soap producer and writer should follow.

Quote:
“How Not To Wreck A Show
* Watch the show.

* Learn the history of the show. You would be surprised at the ideas that you can get from the back story of your characters.

* Read the fan mail. The very characters that are not thrilling to you may be the audience's favorites.

* Be objective. When I came in to ATWT, the first thing I said was, what is pleasing the audience? You have to put your own personal likes and dislikes aside and develop the characters that the audience wants to see.

* Talk to everyone; writers and actors especially. There may be something in a character's history that will work beautifully for you, and who would know better than the actor who has been playing the role?

* Don't change a core character. You can certainly give them edges they didn't have before, or give them a logical reason to change their behavior. But when the audience says, "He would never do that," then you have failed.

* Build new characters slowly. Everyone knows that it takes six months to a year for an audience to care about a new character. Tie them in to existing characters. Don't shove them down the viewers' throats.

* If you feel staff changes are in order, look within the organization first. P&G [Procter & Gamble] does a lot of promoting from within. Almost all of our producers worked their way up from staff positions, and that means they know the show.

* Don't fire anyone for six months. I feel very deeply that you should look at the show's canvas before you do anything.

* Good soap opera is good storytelling. It's very simple.”

kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“He was the co-creator of Loving and the head writer for As the World Turns in the 80's that is credited with saving the show from cancellation. He came up with this list of rules every soap producer and writer should follow.”

H'mm the British soaps rarely take any notice of that list heh

Still all you would need to do is for Chas or Charity to bar a couple of regulars from the Woolpack, they go to the Malt instead and we gradually over the six months he recommended we get to know several lovable new people then we can have the Mill Cottage comedy club disaster and we will be set for dead wood free era.
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“H'mm the British soaps rarely take any notice of that list heh

Still all you would need to do is for Chas or Charity to bar a couple of regulars from the Woolpack, they go to the Malt instead and we gradually over the six months he recommended we get to know several lovable new people then we can have the Mill Cottage comedy club disaster and we will be set for dead wood free era.”

I don't think the US soaps take notice of that list if they did we'd probably still have 10 of them on the air instead of 4 clinging to life support.

As for your disaster only Brenda, Jai and Doug need to be killed off all other characters should survive.
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I don't think the US soaps take notice of that list if they did we'd probably still have 10 of them on the air instead of 4 clinging to life support.

As for your disaster only Brenda, Jai and Doug need to be killed off all other characters should survive.”

Bare minimum of 10 killings

Ever so hot today, bit disturbed by the bus driver stopping off at a shop then driving down the road eating a frozen popsicle
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Bare minimum of 10 killings

Ever so hot today, bit disturbed by the bus driver stopping off at a shop then driving down the road eating a frozen popsicle”

LOL that sounds like the makings of soap disaster
kwynne42
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL that sounds like the makings of soap disaster”

Indeed
Andybear
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Thank God you're not the producer Killing off Aaron and the hottest man on soaps Andy is a crime

Here are some better alternate stories:

Aaron decides to permanently end it.

Chrissie's attempt to frame Andy backfires, Andy figures out the truth and dumps her but Chrissie is so angry she hires Robert's hitman to kill him and he does.

Andy and Aarron drown their sorrows together at Woolpack get drunk and end up having sex. Arrndy becomes the hottest couple on soaps. Robert of course is fuming with jealously and plans to kill Andy.. However Aaron and Andy drink so much they die of alcoholic poisoning, thus Robert doesn't have to do anything.

Ross realizes he's a terrible mechanic and decides to give stand up comedy a try, he becomes so successful that he buys Mill Cottage and turns it into a comedy club.

Jacob comes up with a plan to rid David of Tracy once and for all, he drugs both Tracy and Pollard and puts them in bed together and sets it up so David walks in on them.

Lawrence still refusing to admit he's gay goes in search of a new beard. The HBIC is more than happy to help as long as he signs over the rights of Home Farm to her.”

I've made it better but one thing, why would Lawrence want to grow a beard? Is it because Ronnie's got one and he wants to match him? II think he's rather yummy and can't imagine him with one. I have googled it to see if searching for a new beard means anything else but I just ended up with loads of links about beards!
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