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Emmerdale - Past and Present (Part 10)
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Nico_D
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Thank God you're not the producer Killing off Aaron and the hottest man on soaps Andy is a crime

Here are some better alternate stories:

Aaron decides to permanently end it with Robert realizing Emmerdale's answer to JR Ewing will never change.

Chrissie's attempt to frame Andy backfires, Andy figures out the truth and dumps her.

Andy and Aarron drown their sorrows together at Woolpack get drunk and end up having sex. Arrndy becomes the hottest couple on soaps. Robert of course is fuming with jealously and plans to kill Andy.

Ross realizes he's a terrible mechanic and decides to give stand up comedy a try, he becomes so successful that he buys Mill Cottage and turns it into a comedy club.

Jacob comes up with a plan to rid David of Tracy once and for all, he drugs both Tracy and Pollard and puts them in bed together and sets it up so David walks in on them.

Lawrence still refusing to admit he's gay goes in search of a new beard. The HBIC is more than happy to help as long as he signs over the rights of Home Farm to her.”

Kate Oates is reading this thinking...."this is all gold, I wish I was still in charge of Emmerdale". there's a whole week she could get out of that.
Andybear
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“He was the co-creator of Loving and the head writer for As the World Turns in the 80's that is credited with saving the show from cancellation. He came up with this list of rules every soap producer and writer should follow.”

That's interesting Mark. I'm not sure about:-

* Be objective. When I came in to ATWT, the first thing I said was, what is pleasing the audience? You have to put your own personal likes and dislikes aside and develop the characters that the audience wants to see" .

Everyone has their favourites and characters some people like, others dislike. So this would mean having to develop all the characters which I think would be a good thing,
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I've made it better but one thing, why would Lawrence want to grow a beard? Is it because Ronnie's got one and he wants to match him? II think he's rather yummy and can't imagine him with one. I have googled it to see if searching for a new beard means anything else but I just ended up with loads of links about beards!”

LOL a beard is a beard is a woman a gay man uses as a cover to hide the fact that he's gay. Bernice was Lawrence's beard.
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Kate Oates is reading this thinking...."this is all gold, I wish I was still in charge of Emmerdale". there's a whole week she could get out of that.”

Naw Kate Oates is busy turning Maria into a lesbian and planning how to drop helicopter on Corrie
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“That's interesting Mark. I'm not sure about:-

* Be objective. When I came in to ATWT, the first thing I said was, what is pleasing the audience? You have to put your own personal likes and dislikes aside and develop the characters that the audience wants to see" .

Everyone has their favourites and characters some people like, others dislike. So this would mean having to develop all the characters which I think would be a good thing,”

Yeah it would mean developing all the characters and this way you don't piss off your audience, so many times TPTB come into a show start swinging the axe they end up getting rid of someone's favorite character.
Andybear
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL a beard is a beard is a woman a gay man uses as a cover to hide the fact that he's gay. Bernice was Lawrence's beard.”

Now I see, thanks Mark. I lead a very sheltered life
Andybear
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Naw Kate Oates is busy turning Maria into a lesbian and planning how to drop helicopter on Corrie


Yeah it would mean developing all the characters and this way you don't piss off your audience, so many times TPTB come into a show start swinging the axe they end up getting rid of someone's favorite character.”

Exactly. I think they should settle down and get into the job before making any decisions about axing etc.
Mark_Washingto1
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Now I see, thanks Mark. I lead a very sheltered life ”

you're welcome. I think beard was used in that manner on Emmerdale recently but I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Exactly. I think they should settle down and get into the job before making any decisions about axing etc.”

I completely agree and that is what has did in a lot of the US soaps in, they'd bring in a new head writer and/or EP, they'd write out several characters bring in new ones that they created which only pissed off the audience.
kwynne42
20-07-2016
Analysis of Emmerdale Characters warning its going to be a long one because boy do we have a lot to talk about.

1) Belle - Obviously the talking to girls thing means that her mental illness has returned - I guess all the stress and guilt caused by her relationship with and ruining the life of Bailey and her ever escalating pregnancy lie has put so much pressure and turmoils on the girl that her medication has stopped working, which is bad because her idiotic selfish family has noticed that she is off with the fairies again.

Poor dead elderly ghost of Gemma rejected by Belle's fevered mind in favour of a gobby chav from prison

Still at least Belle has an out for her Belle lie, now everyone is going to blame the phantom pregnancy and possibly her entire relationship with Dr Bailey on her illness and she won't get the blame for anything. I wonder how long she actually has been sick for and if the above is actually true.

2) Lisa - You wouldn't be able take Lisa anywhere nice would you? not without her completely embarrassing you horribly, as usual she going to be the last to notice her daughter is ill

3) Charity - hasn't noticed her cousin getting ill and putting even more pressure than ever and making her

4) Liv manged the impossible and got Crybaby and Robert back together in fact she was great the whole episode.

5) Finn - Loved Liv doing the complete opposite of what he said to do because he was a waste of space where relationships are concerened.

6) Robert talks sense sometimes

7) Crybaby is just pointless

8) Tracy did the sesnsible thing and told David she didn't want to marry him, of course she had literally everyone apart from Diane telling her it was a bad thing.

9) david and his no engagement party, he's a bit annoying isn't he.

10 Jacob shut up Jacob.

11) Eric was Eric., he's hoping that David doesn't really expect him to love tracy as much as David does.

12) lachlan frustrated at is Grandads behaviour literally took his prized car out for a spin and got a slap for it.

13) Has any Male owner of home farm got out alive or still sane, pity poor Lawrence he be cursed

14) Chrissie - is sad at her father decline.

15) Vanessa stop being nasty to Tracy.

16 Carly is a good friend

Ways How to Kill Aaron New Series Vol 1

No.2) Aaron strays onto Home Farm Land and gets his head blown of by Lawrence with his shotgun mistaking him for Lachlan.
Mark_Washingto1
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis of Emmerdale Characters warning its going to be a long one because boy do we have a lot to talk about.

1) Belle - Obviously the talking to girls thing means that her mental illness has returned - I guess all the stress and guilt caused by her relationship with and ruining the life of Bailey and her ever escalating pregnancy lie has put so much pressure and turmoils on the girl that her medication has stopped working, which is bad because her idiotic selfish family has noticed that she is off with the fairies again.

Poor dead elderly ghost of Gemma rejected by Belle's fevered mind in favour of a gobby chav from prison

Still at least Belle has an out for her Belle lie, now everyone is going to blame the phantom pregnancy and possibly her entire relationship with Dr Bailey on her illness and she won't get the blame for anything. I wonder how long she actually has been sick for and if the above is actually true.

2) Lisa - You wouldn't be able take Lisa anywhere nice would you? not without her completely embarrassing you horribly, as usual she going to be the last to notice her daughter is ill

4) Liv manged the impossible and got Crybaby and Robert back together in fact she was great the whole episode.

5) Finn - Loved Liv doing the complete opposite of what he said to do because he was a waste of space where relationships are concerened.

6) Robert talks sense sometimes

7) Crybaby is just pointless

10 Jacob shut up Jacob.

13) Has any Male owner of home farm got out alive or still sane, pity poor Lawrence he be cursed

Ways How to Kill Aaron New Series Vol 1

No.2) Aaron strays onto Home Farm Land and gets his head blown of by Lawrence with his shotgun mistaking him for Lachlan.”

1. I think Belle probably stopped taking her meds and that is why she's seeing this random chick.

2. Agreed

4. I really don't get what is so great about Liv, she is just meh to me

5. Finn is a waste of space at all times

6. Evil Robert rarely makes sense but he does have a point Aaron knew exactly what he was getting into with Robert so he can't really expect him to change.

7. Stop hating on Aaron and he hasn't cried once since he's been back.

10. Agreed, Jacob should go back and live with his mom if he doesn't approve of Dacy

13. No. That house is cursed and Lawrence is a dead man walking. He's reminding me of Declan during his final days.
Andybear
20-07-2016
Mark - have you ever considered starting an Aaron Dingle/Danny Miller appreciation thread? I've just had a look and I couldn't see one, I just saw the Robron one. No-one is allowed to say horrible things about the character in an appreciation thread
kwynne42
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Mark - have you ever considered starting an Aaron Dingle/Danny Miller appreciation thread? I've just had a look and I couldn't see one, I just saw the Robron one. No-one is allowed to say horrible things about the character in an appreciation thread ”

And i'm much too scared to go into that part of the forum, its terrifying in there
kwynne42
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“1. I think Belle probably stopped taking her meds and that is why she's seeing this random chick.

2. Agreed

4. I really don't get what is so great about Liv, she is just meh to me

5. Finn is a waste of space at all times

6. Evil Robert rarely makes sense but he does have a point Aaron knew exactly what he was getting into with Robert so he can't really expect him to change.

7. Stop hating on Aaron and he hasn't cried once since he's been back.

10. Agreed, Jacob should go back and live with his mom if he doesn't approve of Dacy

13. No. That house is cursed and Lawrence is a dead man walking. He's reminding me of Declan during his final days.”

4) Where has Liv been until this ep anyway?

7) Crybaby only been in about 4 eps since he's been back and has dumped Robert in every one of them and been ultra miserable even for him.

What on earth has he got to be so miserable about
Oldnjaded
20-07-2016
[quote]1. I think Belle probably stopped taking her meds and that is why she's seeing this random chick.[/Quote}
But why though? Even in the unlikely event a doctor told her those meds weren't suitable for a pregnant woman, she knows she's not pregnant, so why stop?

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“13. No. That house is cursed and Lawrence is a dead man walking. He's reminding me of Declan during his final days.”

All Home Farm families have a relatively short shelf life unfortunately, because in theory at least they're supposed to impact on the whole village, so I think that's why they shake things up and bring in a new Home Farm family every few years.
Oldnjaded
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“4) Where has Liv been until this ep anyway?”

Hopefully she remembered that she does actually have a perfectly good mother who did her very best for her for many years, and went to visit her, instead of fawning all over her oh so wonderful brother, Crybaby.
Mark_Washingto1
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Mark - have you ever considered starting an Aaron Dingle/Danny Miller appreciation thread? I've just had a look and I couldn't see one, I just saw the Robron one. No-one is allowed to say horrible things about the character in an appreciation thread ”

Naw I don't need to do that. I just like messing with Kwynne when he talks about Aaron.
kwynne42
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Hopefully she remembered that she does actually have a perfectly good mother who did her very best for her for many years, and went to visit her, instead of fawning all over her oh so wonderful brother, Crybaby. ”

More mundane reason the actress was taking school exams?
Oldnjaded
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“And i'm much too scared to go into that part of the forum, its terrifying in there”

Very wise, kwynne - you wouldn't last 5 minutes in there.
Mark_Washingto1
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“4) Where has Liv been until this ep anyway?

7) Crybaby only been in about 4 eps since he's been back and has dumped Robert in every one of them and been ultra miserable even for him.

What on earth has he got to be so miserable about”

Liv has been away plotting on how to steal Gabby from Jacob #teamLibby

Robron love to break up for the make up sex its hotter that way

And I don't think Aaron is miserable right now.

[quote=Oldnjaded;83245931]
Quote:
“1. I think Belle probably stopped taking her meds and that is why she's seeing this random chick.[/Quote}
But why though? Even in the unlikely event a doctor told her those meds weren't suitable for a pregnant woman, she knows she's not pregnant, so why stop?

I think Belle has just forgotten about the meds do to being overwhelmed with her lies.

All Home Farm families have a relatively short shelf life unfortunately, because in theory at least they're supposed to impact on the whole village, so I think that's why they shake things up and bring in a new Home Farm family every few years. ”

But the Whites have only been on for what two years? I can see shaking things up every now and then but they could give them 5 years, I feel like we're just getting to know them.
Oldnjaded
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“But the Whites have only been on for what two years? I can see shaking things up every now and then but they could give them 5 years, I feel like we're just getting to know them.”

Indeed! That's the whole nub of the problem imo. Everything now is done for short term, usually sensationalist, gain, with no interest in long term development of characters or stories.
Alleycat666
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Indeed! That's the whole nub of the problem imo. Everything now is done for short term, usually sensationalist, gain, with no interest in long term development of characters or stories. ”

Exactly - and then you end up getting good actors like John Bowe and they leave them to trundle along in the background and get bedded in (not like that...) and then just as they are really starting to develop every appearance is that they are about to go again.

Grrrr
Alleycat666
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis of Emmerdale Characters warning its going to be a long one because boy do we have a lot to talk about.

1) Belle - Obviously the talking to girls thing means that her mental illness has returned - I guess all the stress and guilt caused by her relationship with and ruining the life of Bailey and her ever escalating pregnancy lie has put so much pressure and turmoils on the girl that her medication has stopped working, which is bad because her idiotic selfish family has noticed that she is off with the fairies again.

Poor dead elderly ghost of Gemma rejected by Belle's fevered mind in favour of a gobby chav from prison

Still at least Belle has an out for her Belle lie, now everyone is going to blame the phantom pregnancy and possibly her entire relationship with Dr Bailey on her illness and she won't get the blame for anything. I wonder how long she actually has been sick for and if the above is actually true.

2) Lisa - You wouldn't be able take Lisa anywhere nice would you? not without her completely embarrassing you horribly, as usual she going to be the last to notice her daughter is ill

3) Charity - hasn't noticed her cousin getting ill and putting even more pressure than ever and making her

4) Liv manged the impossible and got Crybaby and Robert back together in fact she was great the whole episode.

5) Finn - Loved Liv doing the complete opposite of what he said to do because he was a waste of space where relationships are concerened.

6) Robert talks sense sometimes

7) Crybaby is just pointless

8) Tracy did the sesnsible thing and told David she didn't want to marry him, of course she had literally everyone apart from Diane telling her it was a bad thing.

9) david and his no engagement party, he's a bit annoying isn't he.

10 Jacob shut up Jacob.

11) Eric was Eric., he's hoping that David doesn't really expect him to love tracy as much as David does.

12) lachlan frustrated at is Grandads behaviour literally took his prized car out for a spin and got a slap for it.

13) Has any Male owner of home farm got out alive or still sane, pity poor Lawrence he be cursed

14) Chrissie - is sad at her father decline.

15) Vanessa stop being nasty to Tracy.

16 Carly is a good friend

Ways How to Kill Aaron New Series Vol 1

No.2) Aaron strays onto Home Farm Land and gets his head blown of by Lawrence with his shotgun mistaking him for Lachlan.”

1 - I thought the doctor she went to said she was ok to keep taking the meds.....?

2 - Um no, and yes she will be

3 - Bad Charity!

4 - She was - just a pity about her half-brother

5 - Yep

6 - He does

7 - See 5 above

8 - Maybe she does have a teensy weensy bit of self-respect

9- See 7 and 5 above

10 - I fail to see why Jacob's hanging around - David is no longer anything to do with Alicia and he didn't officially adopt him or anything. Send him back to Portugal to be with his mum I say (although of course technically she's not) or pack him off to his Dad.

11 - He was and David will be disappointed

12 - Good slap from Lawrence - maybe if they'd tried that beforehand Lachlan might be a different kid now (although I should of course state here that I wouldn't condone violence in real life)

13 - Ummm - no, can't think of one - Frank and Chris Tate both bought it as did Tom King and Mark Wilde. Declan vanished into thin air - I guess you could say he got away with it and broke the curse?

14 - But he's not her Daaaad

15 - She has every reason not to - Tracy's one night stand robbed her (although Carly seems to have forgiven her)

16 - She is - see 15 above

at ways to kill Aaron New series Vol1 No2
penelope_smith
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“I do like to peruse Analysis Central”

me too. my most favourite reading on DS soap postings xx
lulu g
20-07-2016
I thought the doctor Belle saw about her 'pregnancy' said she would have to stop taking her meds and presumably didn't renew her prescription. Did I just make that up?
Oldnjaded
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I thought the doctor Belle saw about her 'pregnancy' said she would have to stop taking her meds and presumably didn't renew her prescription. Did I just make that up?”

Somebody on another thread said that the doctor said being pregnant wouldn't interfere with her meds. I don't remember it being mentioned, I really must pay more attention.

Anyway, at very worst, any doctor would find alternative meds for her. It can't be that all pregnant women with mental health issues have to go without their essential meds for 9 months.
Teifiboi
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Mark - have you ever considered starting an Aaron Dingle/Danny Miller appreciation thread? I've just had a look and I couldn't see one, I just saw the Robron one. No-one is allowed to say horrible things about the character in an appreciation thread ”

It's Mark's and my mission to ensure that the main forum is not allowed to become 100% an Aaron Dingle/Danny Miller hostile zone.
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