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Old 03-08-2016, 09:29
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I know Andy is dense but how has he not realised who set him up yet, he's fully aware the evidence has been planted on him and knows his clothes were washed in a manner that would remove gunpowder to make it look like he was covering his tracks. Only one person has access to the evidence and his laundry surely even Sam dingle would have figured this one out
yes but Chriissie is being seemingly very helpful and sympathetic why would he think it was her, if he wasn't already too stupid for words that is.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:34
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He was!


Gabby was awful. Each instalment she gets worse- glad for that end scene though
The Gabby stuff was a mess. She's horrible, she needs to be punished, not just forgiven for everything.

But who cares. Cain. In a T shirt. With his arms. Getting flirty and getting his leg over.

Gorgeous.
Gabby as i've been saying for ages until I was blue in the face was just a terrified scared angry teenager who had gone too far and didn't know how to back down and her family were too sick, indifferent or selfish to care (Ashley, Laurel, Bernice in that order) so things just got worse and worse.

All it needed was for Gabby and Ashley to finally properly shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead, then throw a few things then make up by admitting their fears and finally listen to each other..

More or less what I said should happen heh.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:35
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Lots of drooling last night I see - just wanted to say I agree with all those upthread about Cain last night, and about Jeff's portrayal of him.
Don't usually see the appeal but he was sparkling last night heh.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:49
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yes but Chriissie is being seemingly very helpful and sympathetic why would he think it was her, if he wasn't already too stupid for words that is.
At very least surely he would suspect Lachlan by now?
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:16
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Gabby as i've been saying for ages until I was blue in the face was just a terrified scared angry teenager who had gone too far and didn't know how to back down and her family were too sick, indifferent or selfish to care (Ashley, Laurel, Bernice in that order) so things just got worse and worse.

All it needed was for Gabby and Ashley to finally properly shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead, then throw a few things then make up by admitting their fears and finally listen to each other..

More or less what I said should happen heh.
And then for her to make a grovelling apology to Victoria and offer to clean her toilet for the rest of her life.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:47
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And then for her to make a grovelling apology to Victoria and offer to clean her toilet for the rest of her life.
Too late for that isn't it? Victoria has already gone to the police about how Gabby got that injury.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:59
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Gabby as i've been saying for ages until I was blue in the face was just a terrified scared angry teenager who had gone too far and didn't know how to back down and her family were too sick, indifferent or selfish to care (Ashley, Laurel, Bernice in that order) so things just got worse and worse.

All it needed was for Gabby and Ashley to finally properly shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead, then throw a few things then make up by admitting their fears and finally listen to each other..

More or less what I said should happen heh.
In other words "I told you so".
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:12
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Analysis of Emmerdale characters

Where to even start in this excellent episode

Family by family I think.

The Thomas's

1) Laurel is truly vile isn't she, dreadful woman, no wonder Gabby was so messed up with her as a stepmother

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See all Ashley and gabby needed to do to make up was shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead and throw a few things around and then finally understand where each other was coming from and make up.

2) So Gabby wasn't Evil and someone deserving a horrible death but actually a terrified and angry little girl scared stiff about her father dying, Gabby had no idea how to fix the situation and seemed doomed to keep making things worse until Doug intervened.

3) Ashley finally realised how scared his daughter and messed up and lonely his daughter was and thus they made up and finally showed some parental warmth that she had been desperately need

4) Doug was actually helpful this episode but good grief he's a doom merchant

5) Liv very sensible and the voice of reason to Gabby, no idea why people don't like her

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Thanks to Victoria Gabby is still probably in loads of trouble with the police

The Bartons (and Cain)

6) Cain is very intolerant of Druggies, Holly has Shadrach to thank for that, cain was very harsh about Holly despite his daughter often causing troubles herself

7) Some people may think Moira is in the wrong helping Holly, but Holly is her daughter and she's come this far, but she should have been much more honest with Cain about the whole thing, maybe they would still be together if they had.

8) Victoria - was great and finally coming to terms with all the crime around her and getting her confidence and the food Van which is bound to be closed down in no time by the authorities. Went to the police about Gabby

9) Adam - currently angry with his family, considering all the covering up Moira has done for him he has a nerve.

The Dingles

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Sexual Chemistry thy name is Cain and Charity furnace hot.

10) Charity's disappointment at not getting to sleep with Cain was hilarious, she was very good this episode

11) Cain (again) felt sorry for himself so decided to get with Charity, actors are amazing together.

12) Chas came to save the day and poor cold water on the hotness.

Kings.

13) even with Nicola Doug is dull.

14)Nicola is slowly getting better but should be far away from dull dan.

15( Jimmy is very stupid isn't he.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 10

Drunken Cain mistakes him for Holly and runs him over, and runs back over him to make sure he is dead.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:13
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In other words "I told you so".
People should listen to me more often heh
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:27
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Analysis of Emmerdale characters

Where to even start in this excellent episode

Family by family I think.

The Thomas's

1) Laurel is truly vile isn't she, dreadful woman, no wonder Gabby was so messed up with her as a stepmother

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See all Ashley and gabby needed to do to make up was shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead and throw a few things around and then finally understand where each other was coming from and make up.

2) So Gabby wasn't Evil and someone deserving a horrible death but actually a terrified and angry little girl scared stiff about her father dying, Gabby had no idea how to fix the situation and seemed doomed to keep making things worse until Doug intervened.

3) Ashley finally realised how scared his daughter and messed up and lonely his daughter was and thus they made up and finally showed some parental warmth that she had been desperately need

4) Doug was actually helpful this episode but good grief he's a doom merchant

5) Liv very sensible and the voice of reason to Gabby, no idea why people don't like her

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Thanks to Victoria Gabby is still probably in loads of trouble with the police

The Bartons (and Cain)

6) Cain is very intolerant of Druggies, Holly has Shadrach to thank for that, cain was very harsh about Holly despite his daughter often causing troubles herself

7) Some people may think Moira is in the wrong helping Holly, but Holly is her daughter and she's come this far, but she should have been much more honest with Cain about the whole thing, maybe they would still be together if they had.

8) Victoria - was great and finally coming to terms with all the crime around her and getting her confidence and the food Van which is bound to be closed down in no time by the authorities. Went to the police about Gabby

9) Adam - currently angry with his family, considering all the covering up Moira has done for him he has a nerve.

The Dingles

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Sexual Chemistry thy name is Cain and Charity furnace hot.

10) Charity's disappointment at not getting to sleep with Cain was hilarious, she was very good this episode

11) Cain (again) felt sorry for himself so decided to get with Charity, actors are amazing together.

12) Chas came to save the day and poor cold water on the hotness.

Kings.

13) even with Nicola Doug is dull.

14)Nicola is slowly getting better but should be far away from dull dan.

15( Jimmy is very stupid isn't he.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 10

Drunken Cain mistakes him for Holly and runs him over, and runs back over him to make sure he is dead.
Agree with pretty much all of this today Kwynne - has anyone mentioned by the way that you were right all along about Gabby

Particularly agree with point 10 - she was indeed hilarious
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:29
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Too late for that isn't it? Victoria has already gone to the police about how Gabby got that injury.
Oh yeah. Well she can get a proper telling off from PC Swirling as well then.

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4) Doug was actually helpful this episode but good grief he's handsome

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BIB1: fixed for you.

BIB2: yes.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:39
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Agree with pretty much all of this today Kwynne - has anyone mentioned by the way that you were right all along about Gabby

Particularly agree with point 10 - she was indeed hilarious
I may have mentioned it a bit
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:01
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Agree with pretty much all of this today Kwynne - has anyone mentioned by the way that you were right all along about Gabby

Particularly agree with point 10 - she was indeed hilarious
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Going against the grain here, but I still don't see what poor Laurel has done wrong in this whole Gobbeh thing, considering the poor woman is a recovering alcoholic, is god knows how many months pregnant and is watching her husband going doolally and soon to die. At least she hasn't buggered off to a yoga retreat.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:35
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Going against the grain here, but I still don't see what poor Laurel has done wrong in this whole Gobbeh thing, considering the poor woman is a recovering alcoholic, is god knows how many months pregnant and is watching her husband going doolally and soon to die. At least she hasn't buggered off to a yoga retreat.
I do like Bernice but she's not a very good mother. I can understand that Gabby was frightened and her temperament and actions were due to her being terrified over the situation with her Dad- but she was just soooo horrible.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:38
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I may have mentioned it a bit
Well I must admit that Charity has been a little better viewing pulling pints in the pub. At first I was appalled thinking " oh no. I love ED, and now she's going to be shoehorned into every scene" but it seems ok
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:53
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I do like Bernice but she's not a very good mother. I can understand that Gabby was frightened and her temperament and actions were due to her being terrified over the situation with her Dad- but she was just soooo horrible.
She deserves sympathy but she still has to be punished for what she' s done. Surely she'll be taken on by the whatever the English version of the Children' s Panel is - these organisations take family circumstances into account, don't they?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:59
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Well I must admit that Charity has been a little better viewing pulling pints in the pub. At first I was appalled thinking " oh no. I love ED, and now she's going to be shoehorned into every scene" but it seems ok
Agreed, I think the banter between her and Chas is brilliant.

She deserves sympathy but she still has to be punished for what she' s done. Surely she'll be taken on by the whatever the English version of the Children' s Panel is - these organisations take family circumstances into account, don't they?
Yes, Social Services already became involved didn't they, when Tray accidentally left little Arthur in the hospital, lol? In theory, once you're on their radar there should be regular follow-ups, but of course we know from real life tragedies, it doesn't always happen.
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:07
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I may have mentioned it a bit


Check out his new location, Alley.

Going against the grain here, but I still don't see what poor Laurel has done wrong in this whole Gobbeh thing, considering the poor woman is a recovering alcoholic, is god knows how many months pregnant and is watching her husband going doolally and soon to die. At least she hasn't buggered off to a yoga retreat.
Yep - I saw that - not that he's gloating or anything...

And yes, agree with your point about Laurel as well - yes, she was vile to Gabby when she was drunk, but is doing her best to help her again now in a nigh-on impossible situation.

Bernice to be honest is actually a pretty useless Mother - and frankly if Sam Giles can't sign up to be in it regularly then maybe Bernice should beggar off again - she always seem to be off on breaks/holidays at the minute.
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:09
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Bernice to be honest is actually a pretty useless Mother - and frankly if Sam Giles can't sign up to be in it regularly then maybe Bernice should beggar off again - she always seem to be off on breaks/holidays at the minute.
I seriously doubt its the actress who's taking time off - the storyliners just don't want the character around so they can set up the scenarios they're pursuing.
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:18
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I seriously doubt its the actress who's taking time off - the storyliners just don't want the character around so they can set up the scenarios they're pursuing.
Hadn't really thought of that to be honest Sheepie - but you could well be right, I just assumed she wanted time off, but I guess if she'd been there then the Gabby stuff wouldn't have happened would it?
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:22
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I seriously doubt its the actress who's taking time off - the storyliners just don't want the character around so they can set up the scenarios they're pursuing.
Hadn't really thought of that to be honest Sheepie - but you could well be right, I just assumed she wanted time off, but I guess if she'd been there then the Gabby stuff wouldn't have happened would it?
Must be nice to get lots of enforced time and still be probably be paid for it heh
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:22
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Agreed, I think the banter between her and Chas is brilliant.


Yes, Social Services already became involved didn't they, when Tray accidentally left little Arthur in the hospital, lol? In theory, once you're on their radar there should be regular follow-ups, but of course we know from real life tragedies, it doesn't always happen.
I think there's a children's court as well isn't there?
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:26
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I like Dan and love his scenes with Nichola.
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:24
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Analysis of Emmerdale characters

Where to even start in this excellent episode

Family by family I think.

The Thomas's

1) Laurel is truly vile isn't she, dreadful woman, no wonder Gabby was so messed up with her as a stepmother

Sidebar
See all Ashley and gabby needed to do to make up was shout at each other, say they hated each other wish each other dead and throw a few things around and then finally understand where each other was coming from and make up.

2) So Gabby wasn't Evil and someone deserving a horrible death but actually a terrified and angry little girl scared stiff about her father dying, Gabby had no idea how to fix the situation and seemed doomed to keep making things worse until Doug intervened.

3) Ashley finally realised how scared his daughter and messed up and lonely his daughter was and thus they made up and finally showed some parental warmth that she had been desperately need

The Bartons (and Cain)

6) Cain is very intolerant of Druggies, Holly has Shadrach to thank for that, cain was very harsh about Holly despite his daughter often causing troubles herself

7) Some people may think Moira is in the wrong helping Holly, but Holly is her daughter and she's come this far, but she should have been much more honest with Cain about the whole thing, maybe they would still be together if they had.

9) Adam - currently angry with his family, considering all the covering up Moira has done for him he has a nerve.

The Dingles

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Sexual Chemistry thy name is Cain and Charity furnace hot.

11) Cain (again) felt sorry for himself so decided to get with Charity, actors are amazing together.

12) Chas came to save the day and poor cold water on the hotness.

Kings.

13) even with Nicola Doug is dull.

14)Nicola is slowly getting better but should be far away from dull dan.

15( Jimmy is very stupid isn't he.

Ways how to Kill Marlon part 10

Drunken Cain mistakes him for Holly and runs him over, and runs back over him to make sure he is dead.
1. What is with you and Laurel? She has done nothing but be supportive of Ashley.

2. You are in the minority here, according to the poll I posted here yesterday people find Gabby to be more evil than killers Nico Blake and Bobby Beale

3. So what if Gabby is scared of Ashley dying? That does not give her the right to steal, lie and act like a bitch.

6. Good point about Debbie, Cain is always defending her. I wonder how he'd treat her if she were on drugs.

7. Moira was wrong how she handled it. Holly needs to pay for her actions.

9. Most of Adam's issues were caused by Moira's actions. So Adam gets a pass.

11. Cain and Charity are good in scenes together but I have no desire to see them together.

As for Dan and Nicola, this affair could be worse than Maurel
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:40
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1. What is with you and Laurel? She has done nothing but be supportive of Ashley.

2. You are in the minority here, according to the poll I posted here yesterday people find Gabby to be more evil than killers Nico Blake and Bobby Beale

3. So what if Gabby is scared of Ashley dying? That does not give her the right to steal, lie and act like a bitch.

6. Good point about Debbie, Cain is always defending her. I wonder how he'd treat her if she were on drugs.

7. Moira was wrong how she handled it. Holly needs to pay for her actions.

9. Most of Adam's issues were caused by Moira's actions. So Adam gets a pass.

11. Cain and Charity are good in scenes together but I have no desire to see them together.

As for Dan and Nicola, this affair could be worse than Maurel
1) She has been totally indifferent to Gabby, you would think she would want to help the Stepdaughter which she brought up remember through the shock of finding out her father was dying but all she was cold and went on about her not being her real daughter.

2) I think pols are idiotic and stupid at the best of times and any polls which suggest6s those things are especially crap.

3) Gabby was setting of for the police at the end last night so she will be punished for her actions, being a bitch is not illegal

7) Should AAron who doesn't even have the excuse of being on drugs be punished along side Holly?
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