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Angie decides to stay in the house
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Sasparella
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Because it's called out of respect to his family and to her Son.”

He dumped her unceremoniously, talked hatefully about her to the press, and presumably to their son in the same vein and put obstacles in the way of them meeting. Her son told her he hated her and didn't want to see her again when he was 13 (or might have been 15, can't remember now) and she says it's because of David that this happened. You can imagine what you like about her, but you and I will never know the reality of their life together and who, if anyone was to blame for how it turned out. She's just been told, maybe she doesn't want to get out of there and have to run the gauntlett of the press, who will undoubtably have the paparazzi on the doorstep there for the next few days at least. At least in there she can have time to think about stuff without having it all over the place when she turns the tv on or opens a paper.

People are always saying, THIS is how you should behave, or THAT is how you should behave in various circumstances, without having the nouse to understand that no-one is the exact same person as the next person, and people deal with things in the way that best helps them to get through things.
linmic
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by What name??:
“How is her walking out if a job anything to do with them? I think it could be interpreted as less respectful if she walked out and was therefore judged as "trying to make this all about her". I think she can't win I this situation. Some people will have pre-decided that whatever she does is wrong.”

She cant win whatever she does. Her relationship with her son seems to be none existent which is sad but to leave in order to try and 'reconcile' with him would somehow seem crass after all this time. I dont know what I would do in this situation. It will be interesting to see how she copes in the house/how she breaks the news to the housemates etc.
Venetian
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by What name??:
“Nor does leaving. Because if she does want to take this opportunity do reconcile I don't think shoving yourself In his face during the initial grieving period is the best tactic of approaching him.”

I did not for one moment suggest that she should "shove herself in his face" during the initial grieving period, that would be very wrong. I was thinking of longer term and that when Duncan has had time to reflect after losing his father maybe a reconciliation with his mother could be possible? Family reconciliations after long periods can happen, I guess it is a question of whether the parties involved want it to happen?
Dermot_Hennessy
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by lewismacf:
“She is a massive game Player I hate her”

Ain't you the compassionate one?
An Thropologist
11-01-2016
So what exactly do people think she should do?

1. Leave the BB house.
2. Go home to wherever she normally lives.
3. Call Interflora to send some flowers.

Then what? How is she best to demonstrate respect? GIve sound bite comments to the press who would no doubt camp out on her doorstep? Or should she close the curtains and take the phone off the hook and barricade herself in?

Or perhaps she should lay seige to her son either by turning up at wherever he lives or by phone and insist on being there for him? Should she take no for an answer or should she insist on him accepting her support at a difficult time?

She really is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Ironically in some ways encaceration in BB is possibly the best place for her to be to give privacy to David's current family and for her to stay out of the public eye.
calamity
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I would have had a lot more respect for Angie if she had left the house after hearing the news.

Sorry but I really believe she has made the wrong decision in this matter. ”

why though , what would she do, they havent spoken for forty years, would she be made welcome at the funeral.. It think not.. and we dont know the whole story.. probably never will.
Scots rool
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by googlebaby:
“I think she is in a difficult position of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" tbh. They have been divorced for over 30 years, their parting was bitter and their son is allegedly estranged from her. If she had left, people would call her a hypocrite or say she was using David's death to milk sympathy - if she stays she appears unfeeling or using David's death to gain sympathy re nominations and public voting.”

It won't matter what she does, people will criticise her whatever her decision is.
I was shot down in flames for suggesting (after her spiteful comments regarding her ex husband the other day), that it would be hypocritical of her to leave because of this news. It's highly unlikely she would be welcome at the funeral either.

I still stand by my comments.
linmic
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“So what exactly do people think she should do?

1. Leave the BB house.
2. Go home to wherever she normally lives.
3. Call Interflora to send some flowers.

Then what? How is she best to demonstrate respect? GIve sound bite comments to the press who would no doubt camp out on her doorstep? Or should she close the curtains and take the phone off the hook and barricade herself in?

Or perhaps she should lay seige to her son either by turning up at wherever he lives or by phone and insist on being there for him? Should she take no for an answer or should she insist on him accepting her support at a difficult time?

She really is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Ironically in some ways encaceration in BB is possibly the best place for her to be to give privacy to David's current family and for her to stay out of the public eye.”

Strange, but true.

Any news on the Tiffany soundalike yet?
HughOS
11-01-2016
It's a difficult situation here. David and Angie's relationship is private and between the two of them. There are obviously a lot of difficulties and really no one on here knows exactly what went down between them and the son. Just respect Angie's decision, she is acting on what she thinks is best and really it's no one else business. This is a difficult time for all of them and she will need support, not shrill accusations from online where people really don't know what they are talking about.
Captain Kipper
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by HughOS:
“It's a difficult situation here. David and Angie's relationship is private and between the two of them. .”

You could have fooled me, she's been trashing the guy and telling all about their relationship since she went in.
An Thropologist
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by linmic:
“Strange, but true.

Any news on the Tiffany soundalike yet?”

Ahh you quoted me and only now do I see a glaring spelling error.

No not yet but I am working on it. I am hoping that more footage of Tiff may make the difference.
jazzydrury3
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“So what exactly do people think she should do?

1. Leave the BB house.
2. Go home to wherever she normally lives.
3. Call Interflora to send some flowers.

Then what? How is she best to demonstrate respect? GIve sound bite comments to the press who would no doubt camp out on her doorstep? Or should she close the curtains and take the phone off the hook and barricade herself in?

Or perhaps she should lay seige to her son either by turning up at wherever he lives or by phone and insist on being there for him? Should she take no for an answer or should she insist on him accepting her support at a difficult time?


She really is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Ironically in some ways encaceration in BB is possibly the best place for her to be to give privacy to David's current family and for her to stay out of the public eye.”

Your last sentence is what I touched on earlier, maybe she knew his health was declining fast, so thought going in there would take her out of the Public Eye, Not being contacted to speak on Sky News, GMB etc
Skyrah
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“He dumped her unceremoniously, talked hatefully about her to the press, and presumably to their son in the same vein and put obstacles in the way of them meeting. Her son told her he hated her and didn't want to see her again when he was 13 (or might have been 15, can't remember now) and she says it's because of David that this happened. You can imagine what you like about her, but you and I will never know the reality of their life together and who, if anyone was to blame for how it turned out. She's just been told, maybe she doesn't want to get out of there and have to run the gauntlett of the press, who will undoubtably have the paparazzi on the doorstep there for the next few days at least. At least in there she can have time to think about stuff without having it all over the place when she turns the tv on or opens a paper.

People are always saying, THIS is how you should behave, or THAT is how you should behave in various circumstances, without having the nouse to understand that no-one is the exact same person as the next person, and people deal with things in the way that best helps them to get through things.”

It's called showing respect and seen to be doing the right thing.

Angie won't have anything to gain by staying in the house, but leaving quietly via the back door would have been more dignified.
Captain Kipper
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“But what can she do?”

Leave the house and at least be there for her son should he reach out to her, but to carry on (still using his name) and trying to win a reality TV show is a bit crass IMO.
Skyrah
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Leave the house and at least be there for her son should he reach out to her, but to carry on (still using his name) and trying to win a reality TV show is a bit crass IMO.”

thank you
ucra girl
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“It's not about David Bowie, she is still a mother and she may still be rejected by her son should she leave the house but she will never know if she doesn't ....”

But you dont know what has happened during the 18 months David has been sick.Maybe she was told to stay away.So why would she leave a paid job to go somewhere she is not wanted.
What name??
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“I did not for one moment suggest that she should "shove herself in his face" during the initial grieving period, that would be very wrong. I was thinking of longer term and that when Duncan has had time to reflect after losing his father maybe a reconciliation with his mother could be possible? Family reconciliations after long periods can happen, I guess it is a question of whether the parties involved want it to happen?”

If she's not going to approach him immediately (which I think is ill advised) then what would be the point of leaving the house?

Is she supposed to sit shiva for someone she hasn't seen for decades?
CLL Dodge
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“She's been given "the option" to leave at any time? Are the others prisoners or something?”

Yes. They have to break out (like Leo Sayer).
ucra girl
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper;81048654[B:
“]Leave the house and at least be there for her son should he reach out to her, [/b] but to carry on (still using his name) and trying to win a reality TV show is a bit crass IMO.”

David has been ill for 18 months.Maybe her son doesnt want her there.Dont assume the son wants reconciliation.She said she refused custody of the son.You think now she will be a 'mother'?
Skyrah
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“But you dont know what has happened during the 18 months David has been sick.Maybe she was told to stay away.So why would she leave a paid job to go somewhere she is not wanted.”

who mention anything about gate crashing the Family's grief ?

Angie would have got her fee whether she stayed in the house or not.

IMO Angie is putting a reality tv show before her son.
At least she could be outside where if Duncan decides to reach out to his mother in his hours of grief, but no chance if she is shut away in the BB House.
HughOS
11-01-2016
She hasn't had contact with her son in 30 years. Maybe now especially of all times they don't want to see each other. Really no one here knows the true relationship. Im sure if Angie needed to she would have left. Staying in BB away from the press hounding could be the best thing for her
Master Ozzy
11-01-2016
Those of you who keeping mentioning that she should leave the house due to a possible reconciliation with her son...don't you think that over the last god knows how many years that every one of those avenues would have been exhausted by now? I get that they are mother and son by blood, but we don't know what went on and just because they are related by blood, it does not mean that there cannot be any hatred between them. It's been 30 years since Angie and David's marriage ended and they haven't been in touch...I don't see why she would leave the house, especially if she dislikes him as much as she says.
ucra girl
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“It's called showing respect and seen to be doing the right thing.

Angie won't have anything to gain by staying in the house, but leaving quietly via the back door would have been more dignified.”

Maybe the right thing and respect is to stay away.What makes you think her son wants her there?
Sealate
11-01-2016
Very unfortunate that the Daily Mail has a two page spread today airing all Angie's hate towards him. Obviously an interview prior to her entering BB (money?) and the newspapers misfortune that it went to print last night.
ChrissieAO
11-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“It's called showing respect and seen to be doing the right thing.

Angie won't have anything to gain by staying in the house, but leaving quietly via the back door would have been more dignified.”

Why, they acrimoniously divorced nearly 40 years ago and from what she said she has not seen him since.
She is estranged from her son so she won't be consoling him, so leaving or staying, I don't think it matters either way.
My goodness, the reaction of some of the posters on this thread is a bit OTT...
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