When the whole Winston thing kicked off I tried to communicate with people why the whole thing made me facepalm. Of Course 21st Century lefties see no middle ground, i.e. if you don't support the witch-hunt, you must BE a witch.

As if by magic, Channel 5 has forwarded a great example of the problem as I see it.

Our moral Dictators Ch5/BB Brought to our attention & held kangaroo court over a silly, insignificant man with some dated views. Found him guilty and and organised his shaming in front of two angry mobs. Well done Big Brother. We salute your moral divinity.

A few days later, A 69 year old man dies of Cancer, His ex wife is told, and then her mourning and grief is solely used as a teaser to sell the following nights show.

Where has the moral thing gone now then?

And that sums up 21st Century morality.

As long as you have morals where Sexism, Racism and Homophobia are concerned, nothing else matters, the rest of your morals can be in the toilet and it won't matter.

I agree with you 100%.

Yes, it seems the issue of sexism, racism and homophobia are very trendy ones for the right on PC brigade.

I found it astonishing that Darren Day could admit spending £2000 a week on cocaine in the same episode as the Winston revelation and that nobody even bats an eyelid. Winston admits he is opposed to the idea of gay adoption and he is a pariah in the house and with the public : Darren admits he was breaking the law and handing over £2000 a week to criminals or criminal gangs and funding their lifestyle and that's absolutely fine.

In fairness Darren's drug history is in the past and he has apparently been clean for a good few years. He appears to take no pride in it and I haven't seen anyone condone it.

For sure, but we saw Winston being ostracised and treated like a pariah for merely holding an opinion and expressing it.......it does seem like political correctness gone crazy.

i have no wish to get into the Winston debate again but his "opinion" was fairly extreme. If he had simply said he disagreed with gay adoption or gay marriage most would probably accept it even if disagreeing with him.

I don't remember any huge scandals or controversies about the opinions of housemates in the early years of Big Brother. It's very noticeable that it has crept in the recent Channel 5 versions to the point where nearly every series has such a controversy and people are even being ejected from the house over something they said.

If BB was a genuine social experiment, they would simply let people get on with things in there and there's no obligation for them to air any comment that is offensive. It seems like they seize on such comments with positive glee and then put it to the forefront of the show. In other words, they are actively hoping and praying that housemates will be offensive. I actually think Winston was a big disappointment to them and wasn't controversial enough, hence them having to lob in a quote he made from the outside.

Its funny, in 1984 (the novel, not the year) the notion of "thought crime" was an unthinkable fiction, a worrying aspect of a scary totalitarian dictatorship.

Here we are in 2016 and its reality, and we are imposing on ourselves rather than having it imposed on us!

BB should be a social experiment, all previous baggage should be left at the door with HMs evaluated on their behaviour in, and their reactions to, things that happen in the house.
This constant raking up of past foibles or scandals or unwise comments should be irrelevant to a current BB situation.
Channel 5 have systematically ruined the concept and execution of BB, just for transient increases (really?) in viewing figures and advertising revenue.
I watch in hope every series that it may go back to having some integrity of purpose, but alas so far, no way.

Nah. There was no osctrasing. And no there wasn't any issue about him holding an opinion. He just categorically failed to explain his reference to child abuse. Or justify it. That's what HM's couldn't get their head round.

And talk about holding court when he asked them to all gather round.. What a load of tripe he talked. If anything that was for airtime alone.

What reference to child abuse? That was something he said in a newspaper interview and had nothing to do with his stay in Big Brother....he certainly wasn't going to bring it up with the housemates. Once the producers lobbed that into the house, he was always going to be furiously backtracking with the others and probably with no chance of redeeming himself.

He has every chance to explain himself. And yes, CBB does that kind of thing..

Did you see the show? Hear the quote? Which he did not deny saying. Nor did he show any attempt to back track.. Anything but.

But with CBB the baggage will never be left at the door as many of the participants are damaged goods with their history well known. They wouldn't be in there if it wasn't the case and it is inevitable it will be discussed.

That's not defending the way BB has gone in recent years but it was as true in the early days of CBB as it is now. People like Galloway and Barrymore were equally controversial to name but two.

It's going against the very ethos of Big Brother though. Winston was getting on just fine with most of the other housemates (probably too well for the producers in fact) so they had to sabotage him by digging up a newspaper quote from the past about a subject he was very unlikely to ever discuss with the housemates. "Underhanded" would be being extremely generous in describing the producers.

I think he would have dropped himself in it anyway. Highly likely.

And well, old BB would have let that occur naturally. But we've known for a while now BB isn't like that anymore and so do the celebs that go on it.

If he publicly stated that. Nothing wrong with throwing it back in his face.

So we can safely say, in the next couple of years we'll have Tyson Fury to look forward entering the house...

IMO Tyson Fury is 100 times worse than Winston


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The Thought Police are indeed a reality, mainly to be found patrolling the threads of DS, ready to admonish and publicly humiliate anyone who dares to voice an opposing opinion.

Sad times.

Ha ha.. Irony.

Would they sabotage Gemma Collins or Daniella Westbrook with a similar quote from the past ie. something that was bound to alienate them from every single person in the house?

Honestly, looking to BB to for any type of morality is more than a little ridiculous.

If there was one I'm sure they would use it..

Well, that's the 21st century banged to rights.