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Old 13-01-2016, 04:17
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Her colour is completely irrelevant. She is bonkers though!
We have got to get away from this stupid assumption everytime....
Nothing in her behaviour as shown tonight or in previous episodes would have intimidated me.

It is well documented in social psychology that people have more negative beliefs about black people and interpret their behaviour worse than white people.
Yes that is what it seems. I also didn't like the "She only comes in for a plate of chicken" comment made by John.
Nothing whatsoever to do with her colour! The woman was stomping around, ranting, raving and randomly cackling! The rest of the housemates don't know her from prior to being in the house - she's a complete stranger to them. So her behaviour would have been deeply unsettling, (especially the random cackling) regardless of her skin colour!
It seem's to be the go to response on here. White person argues with black person, then it must be for race reasons.

Put it this way if Nikki Grahame was in Tiffany's shoes and had a misunderstanding like that, then flipped out angrily thinking she had been lied to in the midst of things and told everyone to f off...the whole house would be taking her under their wing regardless. There is stereo typing i know alot of people like to be in denial about what's racist and what's not, but scientifically most people stereo type on race, sex and age without even realising they are doing it. John's and Kristinas reaction says it all (their negative opinion of black people), everyone else is just following the mob Kristina hardly spoke a word in the house but was very vocal about how intimidated she is of Tiffany.
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Old 13-01-2016, 07:03
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I didn't like that comment either.
Why's that? Is it because it came across stereotyping?

Abit like saying alot of black people are seen in KFC? ?

I saw nothing wrong with John's remark. Perhaps they had chicken for dinner.
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Old 13-01-2016, 07:15
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What did she even do wrong apart from misunderstand Angie? I think there's something we haven't seen.
We saw when she knew the truth she still called anglievevery name under the sun..pretty disrespectful and also instead of shutting up and saying sorry I got the wrong end of the stick she made it all about her..don't care what colour she is she's self centred and rude
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Old 13-01-2016, 07:15
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They thought Tiffany was mental cause she was pi$$ed, ok so everytime someone on Big Brother gets angry and goes on a rampage they must have mental health issues by that logicl
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:00
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That is the impression I got.

There have been more aggressive and unfriendly housemates than her in there.
Absolute tosh. More likely they have seen the other shows Tiffany has been in where she has had fights with so many, I think that may be why they may be a little scared.

Based on what I have seen and her aggression on the other shows, I probably would be scared as well.
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:07
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Just re watched the whole thing..Tiffany continued the nasty behaviour a long time after thane knew the truth and was horrible to Angie ..only after the continuation of her behaviour did the hm turn!!!!

Tiffany had time to reverse the situation she chose to continue with aggression..dreadful behaviour
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:35
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Just re watched the whole thing..Tiffany continued the nasty behaviour a long time after thane knew the truth and was horrible to Angie ..only after the continuation of her behaviour did the hm turn!!!!

Tiffany had time to reverse the situation she chose to continue with aggression..dreadful behaviour
That's not fair is it? Once she calmed down, she calmed down it took her being in the Diary Room away from everyone to do that. You approach anyone whilst they are in a state of disarray
and they will react and say things in all kind of manner. People are assuming she is going to be another Farrah thinking she is going to kick off all the time. What did she do once she calmed down? She realised what a prat she made of herself, she cried she avoided everyone in the house because she was told they all want her to leave. She was visibly hurt and isolated. If she was this monster some of you are making her out to be, she would still be kicking off now. You all want to try and dampen the use of the race card but its the only explanation that makes sense. Most of the house mates have watched big brother in some shape or form and lets not pretend the opinion of most of the black women who have been in the house is negative whether justified or not. Lets also not pretend that some you on here don't share exactly the same views. I wish people were more honest and openly admitted "i assumed you would be a certain way because you are black" you will be respected a lot more for being open.
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:43
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Just re watched the whole thing..Tiffany continued the nasty behaviour a long time after thane knew the truth and was horrible to Angie ..only after the continuation of her behaviour did the hm turn!!!!

Tiffany had time to reverse the situation she chose to continue with aggression..dreadful behaviour
I still wonder what she was doing in the diary room for over an hour - we saw about 30 seconds. She was leaving immediately and then was staying again.

Did she spend 30 minutes on the phone to her lawyer or agent negotiating an increase in her free with the producers so she went back in.

It also seemed to take hours for her to show some empathy - and realise that it wasn't all about her.

And the way she reacted when Angie told her David had died - she had to turn it into a big drama rather than exploring and checking the facts. No one dies from cancer in the space of ten minutes when they were fit and healthy before?

Seriously deluded woman - and using her race is no excuse for her actions.
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:44
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That's not fair is it? Once she calmed down, she calmed down it took her being in the Diary Room away from everyone to do that. You approach anyone whilst they are in a state of disarray
and they will react and say things in all kind of manner. People are assuming she is going to be another Farrah thinking she is going to kick off all the time. What did she do once she calmed down? She realised what a prat she made of herself, she cried she avoided everyone in the house because she was told they all want her to leave. She was visibly hurt and isolated. If she was this monster some of you are making her out to be, she would still be kicking off now. You all want to try and dampen the use of the race card but its the only explanation that makes sense. Most of the house mates have watched big brother in some shape or form and lets not pretend the opinion of most of the black women who have been in the house is negative whether justified or not. Lets also not pretend that some you on here don't share exactly the same views. I wish people were more honest and openly admitted "i assumed you would be a certain way because you are black" you will be respected a lot more for being open.
She was told the true story and continued to spit venom long after!!!! I say what I see..do not try and read my mind.i speak as I find..and not swayed by anyone's colour one way or another..do you know my colour?
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:54
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She was told the true story and continued to spit venom long after!!!! I say what I see..do not try and read my mind.i speak as I find..and not swayed by anyone's colour one way or another..do you know my colour?
I also say what i see and I say you are in denial but that's my opinion.

Continue to spit venom what did she say that was offensive other than her comment about Angie in the bathroom?
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Old 13-01-2016, 10:57
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I also say what i see and I say you are in denial but that's my opinion.
You are stepping over the line. How dare you assume someone is in denial without knowing anthing about the poster!! And your posts reek of arrogance!
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:00
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I also say what i see and I say you are in denial but that's my opinion.

Continue to spit venom what did she say that was offensive other than her comment about Angie in the bathroom?
No denial..

Her comments about Angie ( not apologising to the stupid old bitch) and laughing about it whilst not shutting up were very disrespectful..bearing in mind she now knew angies ex husband had just died of cancer..id say the same whoever had behaved that way...

I have no issues about race..I do have issues over people using the race card in situations it just doesn't exist.
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:04
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No denial..

Her comments about Angie ( not apologising to the stupid old bitch) and laughing about it whilst not shutting up were very disrespectful..bearing in mind she now knew angies ex husband had just died of cancer..id say the same whoever had behaved that way...

I have no issues about race..I do have issues over people using the race card in situations it just doesn't exist.
Ok lets take race out of the equation for a second...

Did she continue her abuse once she calmed down?
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:10
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They thought Tiffany was mental cause she was pi$$ed, ok so everytime someone on Big Brother gets angry and goes on a rampage they must have mental health issues by that logicl
Well, she certainly wasn't behaving in any way normally or rationally. Raised voices is one thing, but the random laughing was downright creepy. I've seen my share of angry people, but I've never seen anyone behave like Tiffany did. It was unsettling.
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:10
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You are stepping over the line. How dare you assume someone is in denial without knowing anthing about the poster!! And your posts reek of arrogance!
Once again, don't pretend like we don't judge people. I think you're in denial you think I'm arrogant. I openly admit to judging people based on what I see them do. Someone could put a message saying "Hello Darling" and I'd assume they are a chirpy upbeat person. I could be wrong because I don't know the person at all, but the point is I'm making judgements based on their actions.
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:12
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Ok lets take race out of the equation for a second...

Did she continue her abuse once she calmed down?
She took too long to calm down and should have apologised when she found out..I understood the mix up..her reaction was huge..but we are all different..voicing her opinion on Angie and laughing made me uncomfortable when she knew the truth...she made it worse for herself by continuing.

I also felt uncomfortable with the mob mentality isolating her..I don't think she's dangerous or scary..but do think she needs to calm down a bit and grow up and realise everything is not about her!

If she had reacted about Angie after the mob mentality against her..I'd understand it was fighting back..at this point people were trying to be understanding with her and she really didn't do herself any favours by laughing or being so nasty about Angie..it made me squirm more than any of the events that had unfolded
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Old 13-01-2016, 11:14
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I'm undecided as to whether some stereotyping is involved here, but I get the feeling the house have been looking to turn on Tiffany (and to some extent, Nancy) for a while now - and rather than looking for conflict resolution and comforting both Angie and Tiffany, they saw it as a great chance to stick the boot in.
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