Tiffany lied and actually laughed outside when she realised the truth, showed no remorse and nothing but disgusting behaviour
DID Tiffany lie?
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Yes she did, without doubt, to cover her ass. Deplorable behaviour. To be that self centred when someone has suffered a bereavement actually beggars belief. Not only that but trying to drop them in the sh!t?! John was right, she should have left after that. Says a lot about Angi that she was able to let bygones be bygones, I'm not sure if I could have in that situation.
"You've got the wrong David"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Gest-died.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Gest-died.html
Originally Posted by detroit city:
“The woman actually accused Angie of being a liar, she said Angie said David GUEST”
“The woman actually accused Angie of being a liar, she said Angie said David GUEST”
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“That is what I heard.”
“That is what I heard.”
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Exactly his, she said Angie said David Guest and his second name was never mentioned so Tiffany lied, hence causing more confusion!”
“Exactly his, she said Angie said David Guest and his second name was never mentioned so Tiffany lied, hence causing more confusion!”
Originally Posted by benjamini:
“She did indeed . Angie at no point said David Guest. Tiffany swore that that was what Angie said. She lied to try and dig herself out of a situation and just made it worse really.”
“She did indeed . Angie at no point said David Guest. Tiffany swore that that was what Angie said. She lied to try and dig herself out of a situation and just made it worse really.”
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Correct . For some reason she has it in for angie . Lied about her a few days ago regarding dressing for the talent show as well .
Horrible little liar .”
“Correct . For some reason she has it in for angie . Lied about her a few days ago regarding dressing for the talent show as well .
Horrible little liar .”
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“Yes she did, without doubt, to cover her ass. Deplorable behaviour. To be that self centred when someone has suffered a bereavement actually beggars belief. Not only that but trying to drop them in the sh!t?! John was right, she should have left after that. Says a lot about Angi that she was able to let bygones be bygones, I'm not sure if I could have in that situation.”
“Yes she did, without doubt, to cover her ass. Deplorable behaviour. To be that self centred when someone has suffered a bereavement actually beggars belief. Not only that but trying to drop them in the sh!t?! John was right, she should have left after that. Says a lot about Angi that she was able to let bygones be bygones, I'm not sure if I could have in that situation.”
There is no proof at all that she purposely lied. Her memory suggested to her "Gest" was mentioned. Her mind was playing tricks on her, resulting in her thinking it must have been mentioned. Most of us following the shock of thinking someone close had just died would have thought we heard Gest too.
Let’s be honest, it would have helped a lot if Angie didn't tell Tiff "He just died" when Angie would have been told by her agent, he died overnight or the previous day (as it was confirmed as a Sunday death). That statement would have helped Tiffany to suss "an overnight death" must have related to another David!!
Not that I blame Angie either!
It was a misunderstanding on both sides, Tiffany did understandably think it's the david in the house, Angie should of said david my ex husband has died. Tiffany obviously didn't register it was david bowie was convinced it was david gest went into shock like most of us would.
The other hm's treated her unfairly by saying she should leave, ok Tiffany could of been more sensitive because of the situation but I was confused as too there overeaction unless they didn't show us everything.
The other hm's treated her unfairly by saying she should leave, ok Tiffany could of been more sensitive because of the situation but I was confused as too there overeaction unless they didn't show us everything.
Originally Posted by NatashaSmythe:
“I think Tiffany was in shock and genuinely believed that David in the house had died, he was in bed ill after all, she just assumed it was the HM David and why wouldn't she?”
“I think Tiffany was in shock and genuinely believed that David in the house had died, he was in bed ill after all, she just assumed it was the HM David and why wouldn't she?”
I can totally understand why she got the wrong end of the stick. Hearing Angie say "David is dead" could only have one possible meaning for her......if I was there and she was telling me, I would assume it was David Gest she was talking about.
Originally Posted by zoni:
“Why nobody didn't suggest Tiff clarify with Big Brother whether Guest was said or NOT is beyond me. The villains were not the two women, it was an unfortunate accident which hopefully placed a broad smile on the "real David's" face. I miss his genius already.
”
“Why nobody didn't suggest Tiff clarify with Big Brother whether Guest was said or NOT is beyond me. The villains were not the two women, it was an unfortunate accident which hopefully placed a broad smile on the "real David's" face. I miss his genius already.
”
Yes, as he always seemed t have a good sense of humour, i like to imagine he'd have enjoyed the whole 'Whitehall farce' vibe of it tonight.
To answer the OP - no, i don't think she lied. I think she genuinely misunderstood and then her brain, supplied misremembered 'evidence' once it became an issue.
But, that doesn't really ecuse the way she went on accusing Angie of having lied to her as some kind of sick wind up once who had actually died had been clarified. Even if she was sure that she had heard 'Guest' (even though she hadn't), she would have backed off and said "i'm sure she did say that but maybe she stumbled over names because she was upset".
Yes, she backed off in the end, but it apparently took hours and only after the rest of the House didn't back down over the issue.
I don't understand why BB didn't call Tiffany straight into the diary Room, as soon as it became clear she"d misunderstood (which was almost immediate) to clarify it, and then after that, didn't replay the footage to the whole house, including tiffany so she could hear that she did get it wrong and apologize but also everybody else would understand how it happened and it wasn't her fault.
Tiffany is a liar and a total scumbag.
Her ego could not been seen to back down so she lied and insulted Angie and then tried to scream over everyone else.
Temper or not,its obvious that Angie wouldn't have said David Gest is dead but the vile Tiffany could not possibly admit she was wrong.
Even a moron plays nice when someone dies,so she is clearly less intelligent than a moron
Her ego could not been seen to back down so she lied and insulted Angie and then tried to scream over everyone else.
Temper or not,its obvious that Angie wouldn't have said David Gest is dead but the vile Tiffany could not possibly admit she was wrong.
Even a moron plays nice when someone dies,so she is clearly less intelligent than a moron
Originally Posted by benjamini:
“She did indeed . Angie at no point said David Guest. Tiffany swore that that was what Angie said. She lied to try and dig herself out of a situation and just made it worse really.”
“She did indeed . Angie at no point said David Guest. Tiffany swore that that was what Angie said. She lied to try and dig herself out of a situation and just made it worse really.”
That we saw. You don't know all of what was said. I don't know all of what was said. But it was clear that Tiffany thought she was talking about the housemate, not the man that Angie was married to some 40 years ago.
She had no "situation" to dig herself out of. Angie did, with all her fake moaning and wailing. John did with all his bigotry.
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“That we saw. You don't know all of what was said. I don't know all of what was said. But it was clear that Tiffany thought she was talking about the housemate, not the man that Angie was married to some 40 years ago.
She had no "situation" to dig herself out of. Angie did, with all her fake moaning and wailing. John did with all his bigotry.”
“That we saw. You don't know all of what was said. I don't know all of what was said. But it was clear that Tiffany thought she was talking about the housemate, not the man that Angie was married to some 40 years ago.
She had no "situation" to dig herself out of. Angie did, with all her fake moaning and wailing. John did with all his bigotry.”
Where do we find this episode of CBB, that nobody else has seen - Do you have an extra TV channel,that nobody else has ?
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“There's only one David in the house, so it was natural she'd think David Gest.”
“There's only one David in the house, so it was natural she'd think David Gest.”
But also, in Angie's defence, at that moment in time, she would not have been in the right frame of mind to be thinking about any other David's in the world.
It was complete mis-understanding and everyone should have calmed the **** down once it was clarified and let the news sink in. There was no need for what happened after.
Originally Posted by danyell:
“Well she did say what David, David? And Angie said yes. So Tiffany could be lying or just remembering it wrong. What was woman supposed to think? David Bowie probably isn't even on her radar!”
“Well she did say what David, David? And Angie said yes. So Tiffany could be lying or just remembering it wrong. What was woman supposed to think? David Bowie probably isn't even on her radar!”
No she didn't..Chris said David David..never did Angie imply David in the house
angie is the lier she does this all the time over exaggerates to get people on her side remember how she was going on about gemma and danniella. angie sayung how tiffany was rolling on the floor like wtf... thats what i think got Tiffany angry how Angie was lying about the incident
Originally Posted by brittanywattsBB:
“angie is the lier she does this all the time over exaggerates to get people on her side remember how she was going on about gemma and danniella. angie sayung how tiffany was rolling on the floor like wtf... thats what i think got Tiffany angry how Angie was lying about the incident”
“angie is the lier she does this all the time over exaggerates to get people on her side remember how she was going on about gemma and danniella. angie sayung how tiffany was rolling on the floor like wtf... thats what i think got Tiffany angry how Angie was lying about the incident”
Angie had just been told that someone who was a huge part of both her, and a lot of the world life had died. He was her husband, her lover and father of there son. Irregardless of what she feels about him, it would still be a shock, just like it was a shock for people who'd never even met him.
She would not have been thinking about any other David in the world at that moment in time, he was probably the only David in her mind at the point Tiffany over-reacted.
I don't like either of them but I did not hear Angie say David Gest, imo it was just a huge misunderstanding but Tiffany turned real nasty....
Originally Posted by What name??:
“She did. But she didn't mean to. I think she genuinely misunderstood but handled the aftermath badly.”
“She did. But she didn't mean to. I think she genuinely misunderstood but handled the aftermath badly.”
That's correct
Originally Posted by Seanieb1983:
“Angie had just been told that someone who was a huge part of both her, and a lot of the world life had died. He was her husband, her lover and father of there son. Irregardless of what she feels about him, it would still be a shock, just like it was a shock for people who'd never even met him.
She would not have been thinking about any other David in the world at that moment in time, he was probably the only David in her mind at the point Tiffany over-reacted.”
“Angie had just been told that someone who was a huge part of both her, and a lot of the world life had died. He was her husband, her lover and father of there son. Irregardless of what she feels about him, it would still be a shock, just like it was a shock for people who'd never even met him.
She would not have been thinking about any other David in the world at that moment in time, he was probably the only David in her mind at the point Tiffany over-reacted.”
yes i know! but for me the problem is that angie over exaggerates about things like the other day saying gemma and Danielle was saying she was spoiling the task which they did not say. and now where she was talking about how tiffany was on the floor going crazy when tiffany wasnt even doing that...
Originally Posted by brittanywattsBB:
“yes i know! but for me the problem is that angie over exaggerates about things like the other day saying gemma and Danielle was saying she was spoiling the task which they did not say. and now where she was talking about how tiffany was on the floor going crazy when tiffany wasnt even doing that...”
“yes i know! but for me the problem is that angie over exaggerates about things like the other day saying gemma and Danielle was saying she was spoiling the task which they did not say. and now where she was talking about how tiffany was on the floor going crazy when tiffany wasnt even doing that...”
But your point isn't relevant to this topic,
You like Tiffany and dislike Angie , fair enough
But you seem unable to be honest because of your bias.
Angie didn't lie. Tiffany did, that's the truth.
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“Yeah, misunderstanding, not a lie.”
“Yeah, misunderstanding, not a lie.”
Excuse me, there was a lie
It was huge genuine misunderstanding BUT in order to justify her massively nasty reaction Tiffany lied, stating that she asked if Angie meant David Guest and that Angie said yes.
She didn't ask "David guest", she just asked "David."
Tiffany's reaction looked melodramatic and fake to me. Not a tear in sight. I doubt she gave a sh** who died. Just a chance to kick off. Horrid bint!
Originally Posted by boy_number_8:
“A lot of people lie when they don't want to admit they got something wrong.
The thing is that Tiffany let that go and didn't keep bringing it up, she knew she was in the wrong.”
“A lot of people lie when they don't want to admit they got something wrong.
The thing is that Tiffany let that go and didn't keep bringing it up, she knew she was in the wrong.”
Yes. Doesn't she know that they have it on film?
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“Excuse me, there was a lie
It was huge genuine misunderstanding BUT in order to justify her massively nasty reaction Tiffany lied, stating that she asked if Angie meant David Guest and that Angie said yes.
She didn't ask "David guest", she just asked "David."”
“Excuse me, there was a lie
It was huge genuine misunderstanding BUT in order to justify her massively nasty reaction Tiffany lied, stating that she asked if Angie meant David Guest and that Angie said yes.
She didn't ask "David guest", she just asked "David."”
well if that's a lie, so was Angie saying 'I never said David Gest, I said Bowie!'
So either they are both liars, or having both just received some tragic and devastating news, got a bit confused and muddled. I'm not comfortable declaring either of them liars though, due to the sad news they were processing.
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