I agree I have said the same everything he says or does is calculated he even complained about Tiffany getting the airtime.

Too stupid. Possibly has no idea who David Bowie was anyway.

I must admit I didn't like the way he rejected Christophers attempts to get a group chat to sort it out.

I tend to disagree

I think Kristina is just going to be emotional due to her hormones
and Angie was just in a vulnerable state anyway

had anything been that bad to do with TIffany we'd have seen her get a warning

I think Tiffany went on defensive and got angry as she was being cornered, loud and brash, probably freaked some of them out a bit , but reaction from the HMs was very over the top as they were all confused and just blamed Tiffany

He's a sly one, that Christian.

And didn't John help Winston gather the housemates when he wanted a house meeting? Double standards!

Good point I'd forgotten about that

Nasty!

I think that Tiff probably did get a warning, she was in the DR for over an hour and came out as meek as a lamb. We never get the whole story do we?

I didn't really hear what John said because I wasn't listening at the time, but you all do realise that the entire idea of the BB gameshow is to get everyone else out of the house so you are the last one standing, right?

If he could either con Tiffany into leaving or get her kicked out for whatever reason, surely he should do because that would be 1 less contestant on the show

think she was in there to calm down
don't think she was given a warning

glad she's stayed and hope she gets her own back on John in some task

I agree, I like John and cannot stand Tiffany, she was out of order and John was right!

what was she out of order about ?
she had a shock , and reacted to what she thought was Angie telling her David Gest was lying in the bedroom, dead.

Johns a stirring arrogant full of self-important manipulative ****
he'd string em all out to dry if he came out last man standing

I like John but I did say on Launch night ,that i'd heard he can be a spiteful,nasty bit of work and it would be interesting to see if that side of him came out in the house ,or if it'd be all 'the Showbiz' side we see

Seems it's now been answered and we starting to see the spiteful.Nasty bit of work that i'd heard he can be

he nominated Darren (his friend) and Angie (who has just been bereaved).
Nasty piece of work. There were so many other people he is not close to that he could have nominated

I can tell the difference between him and Barrowman now, bonus..

I just find him nasty and bitchy.

I thought John was actually speaking on behalf of all of them. She had gone OTT - the whole house were against her - she lunged at Angie for goodness sake - she accused her of lying to her - she was acting like a mad woman.

Did no one else see that they were all against her? I'm pretty sure we didn't see the whole of it.

John was the spokesperson on behalf of all of them. Her behaviour had freaked the house out.

But why did John need to be the spokesperson? It's a role that he's assumed for himself for no apparent reason. If he was saying what everyone else was thinking, why couldn't they have said it themselves? I'm sorry, I just don't buy this notion that they're all now terrified of her. He likes the sound of his own voice too much if you ask me...

from Tiffany's angle, she thought Angie had made it up that David Gest had died,
which is why she kicked off later , but
she apologised to Angie once she realised the truth and offered her condolences

John could have diffused all of that as he knew what news Angie had been told, yet he didn't say all of it to the HMs, only that Angie had been given some bad news and he could have explained what had happened to get heat off Tiffany whose reaction was shock and she didn't know how to handle that kind of information

john came out badly in all that
he was very nasty to Tiffany and what he told her in the bathroom was just plain bullying and not at all necessary , he tries to deliver things as if he's voice of reason , but what he did was fuel Tiffany being isolated by the group

That's exactly what I saw.....

Not just here. Social media hates him MORE than Tiffany. It's hilarious.

No she didn't, that would have made it a rather funny non event for everyone. That's what she should have done.

John told them all 'wrong surname'. Tiff GOT that and John wasn't horrible at all. Don't rewrite what happened to clear Tiff and damn John.

She went nuts, shouting and accusing Angie of lying to her and calling her all sorts and then going to 'face her out' in a really aggressive way. That went on for a LONG time and she freaked the whole house out.

John was spokesperson, but they all said she was nuts and a couple said they were scared. He shouldn't have done that, but no way was it all him, and no way was it anyone's fault but Tiff's.

She couldn't get over herself and made it all about her. Awful.

When he were stood there in his towel, if he just said david bowie has died, so when she told you david is dead..