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Do you think that Prince was a far more influential Artist than David Bowie
Im not a big fan of Prince but i can see he was a great artist and one the best performerers of the Eighties but do you think he influenced so many artists like Bowie did
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Some but not as many
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I think Michael Jackson was more of an influence to artists than David Bowie was. David was fantastic and was amazing at performing, reinventing himself etc, however when watching the news yesterday they were coming out with ridiculous statements such as that he changed the music video. No he didn't. He made very good music videos, that's all. Michael Jackson changed the music video...his videos were more like films...he inspired people to put more effort into their videos...he made music videos become important.
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]I think Michael Jackson was more of an influence to artists than David Bowie was[/b]. David was fantastic and was amazing at performing, reinventing himself etc, however when watching the news yesterday they were coming out with ridiculous statements such as that he changed the music video. No he didn't. He made very good music videos, that's all. Michael Jackson changed the music video...his videos were more like films...he inspired people to put more effort into their videos...he made music videos become important.
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No, I think Bowie was the spearhead of such a seachange in not only music but fashion, style and culture that his influence was on a par with Elvis, The Beatles and Michael Jackson.
Prince might not even have been a thing if it hadn't been for Bowie. |
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I think Prince was influenced by Bowie
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Looking at both Prince & Bowie...I think they are very similar, not afraid to push boundaries, very creative, can change their style, very private individuals...had these artists started out today, they wouldn't have been given a chance, far too risky for record companies.
Without a doubt Prince would have been influenced by Bowie (and many others) to some degree, but hardly surprising as he had a decade on him. Bowie I think would have influenced more, but that is probably because Prince is far more prolific, very rarely a year goes by without Prince releasing something....sometimes less is more. |
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There's no way Prince was more influential than Bowie. Prince has not been known to change his style and the way he looks as much as Bowie. He's never released one record as good as Life On Mars or Changes. Maybe with the exception of Sign O' The Times which lyrically was probably his best song.
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There's no way Prince was more influential than Bowie. Prince has not been known to change his style and the way he looks as much as Bowie. He's never released one record as good as Life On Mars or Changes. Maybe with the exception of Sign O' The Times which lyrically was probably his best song.
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Big difference between Bowie and Prince is Bowie used technology a lot which shows is some of the later albums but also a lot of the ideas he had, Prince less so, proven by the fact he had videos taken down on you tube and music taken off most streaming sites
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Im not a big fan of Prince but i can see he was a great artist and one the best performerers of the Eighties but do you think he influenced so many artists like Bowie did
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Looking at both Prince & Bowie...I think they are very similar, not afraid to push boundaries, very creative, can change their style, very private individuals...had these artists started out today, they wouldn't have been given a chance, far too risky for record companies.
Without a doubt Prince would have been influenced by Bowie (and many others) to some degree, but hardly surprising as he had a decade on him. Bowie I think would have influenced more, but that is probably because Prince is far more prolific, very rarely a year goes by without Prince releasing something....sometimes less is more. |
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I think Michael Jackson was more of an influence to artists than David Bowie was. David was fantastic and was amazing at performing, reinventing himself etc, however when watching the news yesterday they were coming out with ridiculous statements such as that he changed the music video. No he didn't. He made very good music videos, that's all. Michael Jackson changed the music video...his videos were more like films...he inspired people to put more effort into their videos...he made music videos become important.
jackson did not change the face of music videos.... he was the first to make a short film to accompany a music vid.... and its hard to find anyone who has done that since! innovative music videos were around live and well before and after jackson. as to whether bowie or prince was most influential?... i dont know, its hard to measure, i guess bowie was going longer and is possibly more influential on the british scene - but im not so sure that is true worldwide. |
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Speaking as a younger person, I know maybe 2 or 3 Prince songs offhand and at least fifteen by Bowie. I don't know but does that suggest one may have had a more enduring influence than the other?
Having said that. No need to pit them against each other. I'm sure they werent competing to be 'most influential' at their prime or throughout their careers. |
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No I wouldn't agree that Prince (or Michael Jackson - and I do like music by both) are as singularly influential as David Bowie but I would see some of their influences as being on a par or above Bowie in their shaping of what came subsequently. People such as James Brown, Sly & The Family Stone, Jimi Hendrix or George Clinton. Prince and Michael J. both come from the Rhythm & Blues / Soul / Funk tradition but crossed over massively into the Pop market whereas many of their influences stuck more closely to their musical roots. Quote:
Looking at both Prince & Bowie...I think they are very similar, not afraid to push boundaries, very creative, can change their style, very private individuals...had these artists started out today, they wouldn't have been given a chance, far too risky for record companies.
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jackson did not change the face of music videos....
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he was the first to make a short film to accompany a music vid.... and its hard to find anyone who has done that since!
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I read these threads with interest as I find it strange that Michael Jackson is regarded as having an influence on music.
Elvis, though not a fan, I understand in breaking down the barriers and being at the forefront of rock n roll. The Beatles in the way they performed in different genres and changed how music was recorded and written. David Bowie continued that legacy. I don't see how Michael Jackson fits in as a game changer, though undoubtedly excellent within the genre in which he performed. |
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Im not a big fan of Prince but i can see he was a great artist and one the best performerers of the Eighties but do you think he influenced so many artists like Bowie did
however I think bowies influence was greater I also think bowies influence was greater than Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson certainly wasn't the first in the slightest to making a short film to promote a piece of music. the beatles did it back in the 60s long before MJ did, and other artists like david bowie did the same. bowie made a long form film called love you till Tuesday in 1969 and was nearly half an hour long something that few people may not, apollonian who starred in purple rain and did the original version of manic Monday, was a bowie fan, and prince used to sing bowie songs to her, copying bowies voice and style btw it looks like people are misreading the part in bold and thinking you are asking if prince influenced as many artists or as much as bowie |
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Deluded to think Prince was more influential than David Bowie. Prince copied most of Bowie's ideas. Prince was also only popular in the 80s. Since then he has had no success of note. If Prince died tomorrow no one would care. Unlike with Bowie where the music world is in mourning.
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Nowhere near as influential.
However, I've been watching live music for 50 years and the Sign o' the times tour is the best pop music performance I've ever seen. |
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Both influential but Bowie far more so IMO.
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Prince was also only popular in the 80s. Since then he has had no success of note. If Prince died tomorrow no one would care. Unlike with Bowie where the music world is in mourning.
Not everyone rates Bowie's work either - much the same as not everyone loving John Lennon or Miles Davis or Frank Sinatra or B. B. King or Bob Marley or Roy Orbison or hundreds of others. |
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I read these threads with interest as I find it strange that Michael Jackson is regarded as having an influence on music.
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I read these threads with interest as I find it strange that Michael Jackson is regarded as having an influence on music.
Elvis, though not a fan, I understand in breaking down the barriers and being at the forefront of rock n roll. The Beatles in the way they performed in different genres and changed how music was recorded and written. David Bowie continued that legacy. I don't see how Michael Jackson fits in as a game changer, though undoubtedly excellent within the genre in which he performed. |
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All of that is utter nonsense. Prince continued to be popular in the nineties despite his issues with Warner Brothers and actions that could be seen as sabotaging his own career - creating an unmarketable new name and firing out material in quick succession. The idea that no one would care if he was to die is daft. No one who has had that level of success is simply forgotten.
Not everyone rates Bowie's work either - much the same as not everyone loving John Lennon or Miles Davis or Frank Sinatra or B. B. King or Bob Marley or Roy Orbison or hundreds of others. As for the list you mention, it is important to understand that whilst those artists work may not be to a particular listener's tastes, those artists have to be understood as creating a significant body of work and contribution to the development of popular music. It's not always a personal or subjective judgement. |
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