Did anyone hear this bit ? it was when she though David had died, she said "In the contract, it says that there will be no outside information"........BB are that useless these days that they even break their own contract. There is always outside contact

When Jonathon was getting his massage yesterday the masseuse brought in for the job could of told him anything as well.

Well of course BB can break the contract, that's one of the core BB rules and always has been.

And surely she knew that the rule would definitely be waived in the even of a death?!

I did hear it and either she has misunderstood (or not properly read) her own contract) or she was grasping at straws to justify what had happened.

I think it is in the BigBrother2 book (2002) where they show a truncated version of the contract.

Yes, it states that all external contact, newspapers, tv, telephone calls are banned. But there is a clause that confirms that they will be informed in the event of a death in the family.

Which is basic human rights. Even convicted criminals in Prison are told if a relative has died and given the chance to apply for a day release to attend the Funeral.

So, Tiffany was daft in assuming Angie would only have found out by reading a Newspaper.

Quite - to both.

Again, i remember in that book, and the opening programme when they showed Brian Dowling etc going in, the 10th rule is that Big Brother can change the rules at any time.

Isn't that how they found about Michael Jackson's death. Somebody came in from outside for a task and told a housemate, she then went to the Dr and asked if it was true, and when confirmed, asked if she could tell everybody else.

I think it was the latter.

That was ex HM Federico going back into the house to take part in a task, he told Noirin who then asked BB in the diary room and BB told her it was true.

Tiffany is from the US, she's never seen the British show - the contract has to explain the basic premise of how the show works (which, yes, is still "no contact with the outside world" even if they occasionally break it).

Ever since C5 took over BB there has ALWAYS been contact from the outside world.

Every task has involved someone, be it a friend/family member, or someone unrelated to any HM, entering the house for one reason or another.
The other day it was a masseur, tomorrow it could be a hairdresser, an ex HM or a circus ringmaster.

Channel 5 BB abuse that rule though.

Maybe the drugs squad.

TIFFANY: It said in the contract, NO OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION!
MEGAN: Did it? Hang on, I'll check... Got a pdf of it on my phone somewhere...

lol
As if Megan would know what a pdf is!

I can hardly believe that it's still in the contract.
If it is then she's right to point that bit out.

Shouldn't that be they occasionally don't break it?

At least it's good to see somebody actually read the contract.

I thought Tiffany's point about news from outside meant that how could she possibly think Angie was referring to her ex-husband? That's why T assumed Angie meant David Gest... which frankly is what I would have assumed in her place.

I haven't read the contract.

However the ban on contact with the outside world seems to be a ban on "normal uncontrolled communication": phone calls, texts, newspapers, online communication, etc. There can be communication with the outside world if it is organised and controlled by BB. That is particularly so for emergency messages.

BB will certainly tell a HM if there has been some serious event affecting their family or close friends, such as a death. In BB8 Jonathan was told about the death of his grandmother and chose to leave.

BB6 ran from 27 May 2005 to 12 August 2005. During that time there were the bombings in London on 7 July. We were told during one of the shows that the producers had contacted the families of all the HMs to see whether any relatives or friends had been affected by the bombings. They hadn't been, so it was agreed with the families that the HMs wouldn't be told. If anyone had been affected the HM concerned would certainly have received this information from outside the house.

This is why it's so disturbing that OFCOM wastes it's time on people being offended by language on the show but is completely in the pocket of the show (and does nothing) about them constantly being fraudulent and misrepresenting things. Of course they don't play fair with contracts!

BB can change the rules at any time.....the zelebs need to read contracts carefully

A man whom Angie divorced more than 35 years ago, is not a part of her family.


That is what she meant/thought.

Obviously a death in the family will mean the HM being told as would a mother or child being taken seriously ill or the HM's house being burnt to ground or anything that will have a big effect on the HM.

Yes Angie is David's ex and has been for decades, but it is a big thing that will have knock on effects on her. Can you imagine if she hadn't been told and came out in a weeks time only to find out then NOT having been given the option to leave or do anything that she may have wanted to do under the circumstances.

It was not for BB to decide not to tell her and just keep her in the house in ignorant bliss, so therefore she had to receive info from the outside world.

I think BB does stick to the contracts. The problem here is that saying that the contract forbids any form of contact with the outside world is an over simplification. There are likely to be "ifs" and "buts" in the contract saying under what circumstances HMs can have outside contact and what sort of contact is permitted. There is highly likely to be something saying that BB can exercise discretion on allowing information to be passed to or from HMs and the outside world in unforeseen circumstances.

We also need to distinguish between the terms of the contract and the "Rules of the House". Those rules are unlikely to be in the contract. If they is any mention of the House Rules in the contract it would be to say that BB can change them.

As for Tiffany, it is unlikely that she has read and fully understood her contract. Her agent or lawyer would have given her a simplified description of it.