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anyone else cold enough to roll their eyes at "the stardust is gone"?
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Penny Crayon
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“I'll admit I did. It just came across as attention seeking. I don't think David and John got the relevance of it.”

Are you serious?

You'd have to have lived on the moon for the past forty years not to have got the relevance.
Kabuki
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“Or was it just me?

Feh.

It's a shame the man died, but that phrase was so cheesy and manipulatively emo.”

I rolled my eyes, as it was in my opinion insincere, and aimed for the benefit of DB's fans and not how she really felt. She was being nostalically ironic (if that is a phrase?)
I see a book coming our way!
Honestweegie
13-01-2016
No, it was a fitting tribute to the man
Jeanie
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“Poor Angie can't do right for wrong. I don't care what happened between them both (David B and her). Despite any issues she probably still remembers how she did care for him and this was a term of endearment harking back to once when their feelings weren't bitter or affected by their problems.

Christ the father of her son died, the man she did marry. She is allowed to react whatever way and feel compassion, sadness whatever..”

Spot on.

People say all sorts of sentimental things when memories come flooding back. When someone you were once close to dies it stirs up huge emotions and flashbacks to the time you were together.

I guess all the cynics on here are either too young to know that, or have never lost anyone they once loved.
Stellen11
13-01-2016
Ive been reading that angie was a big help to bowie in creating his costumes/images throughout the 70's. Including the ziggy stardust persona. So her comments seems very appropriate in that light.
FrankieFixer
13-01-2016
It was pretty cringeworthy.
Erinna
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“Poor Angie can't do right for wrong. I don't care what happened between them both (David B and her). Despite any issues she probably still remembers how she did care for him and this was a term of endearment harking back to once when their feelings weren't bitter or affected by their problems.

Christ the father of her son died, the man she did marry. She is allowed to react whatever way and feel compassion, sadness whatever..”

Well said Jules.
ForGodsSake
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Erinna:
“Well said Jules.”

Yes, well said Jules.

There are some very cynical people on this forum.
Whatever Angie is like she is allowed to feel sad for the person she once loved who has left this earth.

She can never put things right between them now..
Quite heartbreaking.
FrankieFixer
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Are you serious?

You'd have to have lived on the moon for the past forty years not to have got the relevance.”

Or be Tiffany.
shelleyj89
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Are you serious?

You'd have to have lived on the moon for the past forty years not to have got the relevance.”

I already explained what I meant! And to be fair, not everyone will know everything about David Bowie or get every single relevance to him and/or his music, whether they've lived on planet earth or the moon.
Kromm
14-01-2016
Well a real split here between us cynics and the people who think she was being sincere. Seems lots of people on each side.
Teddybear99
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“The death of someone in your circle (past or present) can be a profound thing for anyone. How much you liked them or not is immaterial. In fact often the people who struggle most with the passing of someone they knew are those who were most at odds with them.

When someone you used to know dies it tends to propel you back to the time you knew them. This may provoke guilt, nostalgic feelings, re-open old wounds. It confronts us with the passage of time, of aging and of our own appraoching death. The death of someone who used to be significant may remind you of what might have been. It can close the door to secret dreams. Something that yesterday was a possiblity is suddenly never going to be possible. You will never again be able to say I am sorry.

Death stirs up a soup of emotion in most people. Angie included I am sure.”

Well said - I find Angie quite fascinating, fragile and feisty at the same time. Annoying yes, but also multi-dimensional. I don't think her reaction was faked. Also the way she plaintively cried Big Brother when it all went wrong with Tiffany - she just seemed lost.
EnricoIV
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“Poor Angie can't do right for wrong. I don't care what happened between them both (David B and her). Despite any issues she probably still remembers how she did care for him and this was a term of endearment harking back to once when their feelings weren't bitter or affected by their problems.

Christ the father of her son died, the man she did marry. She is allowed to react whatever way and feel compassion, sadness whatever..”

Would that be the son she hasn't seen in like 30 years? Since he was THIRTEEN? Yeah, I'm sure it's a poignant moment for her.

I thought her initial reaction was the true one. After a pause ... she realized how that would look, and decided to milk it for what she could.
hellsTinkerbell
14-01-2016
I think she was casting pearls before swine when she said that.
Nobody knew wtf she was talking about totally when she said that.
She did...and fair play to her she didnt say anything nasty like...im glad the f*******s gone or anything.
She was really quite respectful.
hellsTinkerbell
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“Would that be the son she hasn't seen in like 30 years? Since he was THIRTEEN? Yeah, I'm sure it's a poignant moment for her.

I thought her initial reaction was the true one. After a pause ... she realized how that would look, and decided to milk it for what she could.”

Im keeping the options open on this mother son thing.
I hope they do get together...and mercifully not in the public gaze.
Let them both sort it out together.
An Thropologist
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Ive been reading that angie was a big help to bowie in creating his costumes/images throughout the 70's. Including the ziggy stardust persona. So her comments seems very appropriate in that light.”

Lots of contemporaries have given Angie credit for a signifcant contribution his success and for being the tour de force that got him from a little known one 'hit' wonder to the mainstream artist he became. It seems she was instrumental in promoting him, getting him exposure, creating the image in the 70's and some of the philosophies that inspired the music etc.

Also he relocated to New York in the early 70's I do wonder if he would have been able to live in the US if he hadn't been the spouse of a US citizen.
Penny Crayon
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“I already explained what I meant! And to be fair, not everyone will know everything about David Bowie or get every single relevance to him and/or his music, whether they've lived on planet earth or the moon.”

Well I'm damn sure David and John knew exactly what she meant.
benjamini
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Lots of contemporaries have given Angie credit for a signifcant contribution his success and for being the tour de force that got him from a little known one 'hit' wonder to the mainstream artist he became. It seems she was instrumental in promoting him, getting him exposure, creating the image in the 70's and some of the philosophies that inspired the music etc.

Also he relocated to New York in the early 70's I do wonder if he would have been able to live in the US if he hadn't been the spouse of a US citizen.”

Indeed. Any excuse to kick her is the order of the day it seems. This is pretty low by any standards tho !
rhizo_mania
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“Those were the days they had threeways with Mick, as I recall. "Angie" got written, she herself joked a few years ago, when David was giving Mick a blowjob.

Oh, this is interesting. A video about David's appearances on US talk show host Conan O'Brian's show. It's worth watching because admittedly Bowie is pretty funny in these.

https://youtu.be/P4d8QrRJvsE”


Thanks for that link .
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