That chicken comment from John was VERY SUSPICIOUS.

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Melissa.

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“I just took it to mean they were having chicken for dinner. Perhaps the OP is a little subconsciously racist for having made the connection themselves? ”

No, I can just see through snide little remarks like the one John made. You all can preach about how innocent it was but I don't buy it.

Originally Posted by dylan99:
“She's Carribean?

I just presumed like her accent, she was from the States.”

Her ethnicity is Bahamian. Nationality American.

bb2011fan

13-01-2016

I don't think it was racist. I'm pretty sure they were having chicken for dinner. I don't like John though. He's far too full of himself

dylan99

13-01-2016

Is it like when Clarkson saw a 'slope' on a bridge, but most of us were unaware it was a negative name for Asians? Seems lots of folk have not heard of the connection with blacks and chicken.

erin_p

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Mr_Lover_Man:
“He basically said she only shows her face when she wants some food and that she will pop up "when she wants a plate of chicken".

The more I see that comment the more suspect it seems. I'm pretty sure Chicken isn't the only thing she eats but you know "all people of a certain ethnicity only eat chicken".”

I heard him say it but it didn't register with me at the time ..I can see how that could be misconstrued.

missfrizzy

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Melissa.:
“Don't play ignorant. . You know chicken is seen as a stereotypical product for people of a certain racial group.

John was angry in that moment and that comment seemed like it had some venom in it.”

I didn't know that. I'm partial to chicken myself, and i'm not a black person.

Angie_Plasty

13-01-2016

I had no idea "chicken" was code for "black".

They'd all been moaning about her being lazy and selfish and that's how I took the comment at the time, and that's how I still take it.

linmic

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Melissa.:
“Don't play ignorant. . You know chicken is seen as a stereotypical product for people of a certain racial group.

John was angry in that moment and that comment seemed like it had some venom in it.”

Well I'm certainly not 'playing ignorant' but I've never hear that before. I honestly thought he meant she only shows her face when she wants food.

Kabuki

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Still not getting it. Is "plate of chicken" some sort of street slang for some racist insult?”

Lol

Kabuki

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“I had no idea "chicken" was code for "black".

They'd all been moaning about her being lazy and selfish and that's how I took the comment at the time, and that's how I still take it.”

I am not a fan of John, but I didn't take it as "chicken" being code for "black" either. I took it as it was meant - she is lazy and likes chicken!

Teddybear99

13-01-2016

I suspect that it is much better known insult in the US. I had never heard of it and had to look it up. Now that I have I can understand why it could be perceived as a racist comment. I pride myself in being knowledgeable in what constitutes racism but that one had totally passed me by. I don't consider myself as ignorant either.

Teddybear99

13-01-2016

I didn't either I had to google it. It's not code for black it's seen as racial stereotyping.

An Thropologist

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Teddybear99:
“I suspect that it is much better known insult in the US. I had never heard of it and had to look it up. Now that I have I can understand why it could be perceived as a racist comment. I pride myself in being knowledgeable in what constitutes racism but that one had totally passed me by. I don't consider myself as ignorant either.”

You mean it really is a racist insult in the States? Do you have a link?

I just Googled 'plate of chicken' and got ... well.. recipes and pictures of plates of chicken.

Angie_Plasty

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Teddybear99:
“I didn't either I had to google it. It's not code for black it's seen as racial stereotyping.”

Thanks for the clarification, Teddy. I wasn't playing ignorant, I am ignorant!

sutie

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Still not getting it. Is "plate of chicken" some sort of street slang for some racist insult?”

Oh good, not just me then. Naively I just assumed she likes 'A plate of chicken.'

sutie

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“But it was a chicken oxo.”

Well in that case it was ...erm ... DESPICABLE!

Lushness

13-01-2016

Quote:
“There's a reason why the fast food franchise "Kentucky Fried Chicken" changed its name to "KFC". And it wasn't just because some people consider fried foods to be unhealthy. Southern living not only evokes negative memories of slavery. It also carries negative connotations of what some Americans call "rednecks" and "hillbillies".

Here's an American history 101 explanation from a political blog post about the problem with Sergio Garcia's comment:
"Just why is the fried chicken stereotype racist? There are a number of reasons, some of them old and some of them current. Fried chicken was a dish commonly made by slaves, and it persisted among free blacks who were, at the time, too poor to afford more expensive meats. During prolonged American apartheid, fried chicken played well in black communities, as it was easy to make and even easier to refrigerate. Black people then had to worry about those things, as a meal at most restaurants was outside their reach”

http://pancocojams.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/the-story-behind-stereotype-of-black.html?m=1

viva.espana

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“You mean it really is a racist insult in the States? Do you have a link?

I just Googled 'plate of chicken' and got ... well.. recipes and pictures of plates of chicken.”

Silly. You need to put on your Racism Alert hat and google again.

In this instance, the only way this could possibly be construed as racist is if they were preparing anything other than chicken for dinner. 'Plate of chicken' while beef was roasting, fair enough, a suspect dig. 'Plate of chicken' while chicken was being prepared for, well, a plate of chicken, no.

dylan99

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by linmic:
“Well I'm certainly not 'playing ignorant' but I've never hear that before. I honestly thought he meant she only shows her face when she wants food.”

yeah, like on top gear with the slope on the bridge. I had no idea of the other meaning.

benjamini

13-01-2016

This is the row I referred to earlier between Garcia and Woods.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/gol...la-dinner.html

I don't think it was a racist comment in this case.

Think it's fried chicken that's the problem

trevor tiger

13-01-2016

Whilst I'm aware of the racist stereotype that African Americans only eat / love fried chicken when I heard John say what he did it never occurred to me that he meant it that way. He had already been going on about Tiff being lazy and only turning up for food and I assumed chicken was actually on the menu.

I am though a bit unhappy about them labelling Tiffany lazy all the time. Do all the other HMs assist or is it just some that do most of the work? I assume the latter. Though I'm not suggesting racism Tiff does seem bottom of the the pecking order for some reason and I don't like it.

trevor tiger

13-01-2016

Maybe try chicken / stereotype.

An Thropologist

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by Lushness:
“http://pancocojams.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/the-story-behind-stereotype-of-black.html?m=1”

Interesting. I was always led to understand that before ww2 chicken was a rich man's meat. I understood it used to be very expensive and only really on the tables of the gentry etc until post war industrialisation and the development of better chicken sexing techniques came about.

Penny Crayon

13-01-2016

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Maybe try chicken / stereotype.”

Roast chicken? Grilled chicken? Chicken Kiev or Fried chicken?

They were eating chicken - he was describing her dinner - it could have just as easily been a bowl of soup.

MadeInHarry

13-01-2016

It's like if Tiff was an Asian lady and he said "she just wants a bowl of curry" Chicken is very popular with Black people.

An Thropologist

13-01-2016

I haven't lived have I?

But I am getting the hang of it now i think. I just read a post in which one poster offered another a rich tea biscuit for dunking.

I immediately realised they were being racist. because everyone knows only the British dunk rich tea biscuits.

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