You have got to be joking, how absurd! People are reading waaaaay too much into offhand comments. I don't like John, but in no way was that a slight. Come on, people. Get a grip.
That chicken comment from John was VERY SUSPICIOUS.
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Originally Posted by pope_tart:
“I'm waiting for all the indignant posts about BB forcing some of the white housemates to eat crackers with their lentil soup.”
“I'm waiting for all the indignant posts about BB forcing some of the white housemates to eat crackers with their lentil soup.”
I had no idea you were waiting! Tis done. Seriously, go and get some sleep now!
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=16
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Who would have thought the Housemates dinner would have sent the forum into meltdown?
BB should sort this issue out immediately by posting the Housemates menu on their website immediately.
”
“Who would have thought the Housemates dinner would have sent the forum into meltdown?
BB should sort this issue out immediately by posting the Housemates menu on their website immediately.
”
Clearly it needs to be looked at. Fancy making Nancy eat pizza - can one get a more stereotypical message. They could have gone for a Chinese or an Indian takeaway but no they choose pizza.
Originally Posted by kitten59:
“You have got to be joking, how absurd! People are reading waaaaay too much into offhand comments. I don't like John, but in no way was that a slight. Come on, people. Get a grip.”
“You have got to be joking, how absurd! People are reading waaaaay too much into offhand comments. I don't like John, but in no way was that a slight. Come on, people. Get a grip.”
And complaining to Ofcom it seems. Where would they be without BB.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...ge-racist-slur
Don't like him either and would love to say "what a lot of nonsense" but in fact, I find it quite serious and dangerous that people come up with such hateful complaints.
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“
I had no idea you were waiting! Tis done. Seriously, go and get some sleep now!
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=16”
“
I had no idea you were waiting! Tis done. Seriously, go and get some sleep now!
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=16”
Thank you for that, but I can't go and get some sleep as constant vigilance is necessary to ensure no other food related slurs on TV contaminate the minds of the young and the simple
So I've had a little think about this thread since I posted my amazement at it.
And I've revised my opinion on it a little. I do believe it is correct to raise issues of racism even if it appears absolutely non racist initially. It is possible that racist comments occur even though most are completely oblivious to it. So it's fair and right to ask whether the comment was racist.
However, I would like to establish if it was chicken they were eating or not? Has this been confirmed yay or nay?
My initial response was of 'you can't be serious' about this thread. But then those affected by racism know more about the subtleties of it than others...
And I've revised my opinion on it a little. I do believe it is correct to raise issues of racism even if it appears absolutely non racist initially. It is possible that racist comments occur even though most are completely oblivious to it. So it's fair and right to ask whether the comment was racist.
However, I would like to establish if it was chicken they were eating or not? Has this been confirmed yay or nay?
My initial response was of 'you can't be serious' about this thread. But then those affected by racism know more about the subtleties of it than others...
Considering everything going on in the world the fact that the League of Social Justice Warriors has nothing better to do than waste both their time, and everyone else's, on trivia like an innocent offhand comment speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Still not getting it. Is "plate of chicken" some sort of street slang for some racist insult?”
“Still not getting it. Is "plate of chicken" some sort of street slang for some racist insult?”
It's an American thing. Doesn't really translate to the UK.
Originally Posted by pope_tart:
“Thank you for that, but I can't go and get some sleep as constant vigilance is necessary to ensure no other food related slurs on TV contaminate the minds of the young and the simple”
“Thank you for that, but I can't go and get some sleep as constant vigilance is necessary to ensure no other food related slurs on TV contaminate the minds of the young and the simple
”
I salute you! (it's a Dutch salute, but other nations are available)
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“It's an American thing. Doesn't really translate to the UK.”
“It's an American thing. Doesn't really translate to the UK.”
"Plate of Chicken" isn't even an American thing" as you suggested.
Fried Chicken maybe but NOT "Plate of Chicken"
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“And complaining to Ofcom it seems. Where would they be without BB.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...ge-racist-slur”
“And complaining to Ofcom it seems. Where would they be without BB.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...ge-racist-slur”
OMG !!!! I'm losing the will to live again ......
Well if it wasn't a racial slur this time yesterday it is now. Yesterday I googled 'plate of chicken - racial slur". I got recipies and pictures of chicken dinners.
I just did it again today, same search term and I got a page of complaints, news stories and of course our dear old DS. All references to plate of chicken as a racial insult.
Nice work folks our contribution to race relations seems to be having introduced a new insult to the already too long a list. Ooooops.
I just did it again today, same search term and I got a page of complaints, news stories and of course our dear old DS. All references to plate of chicken as a racial insult.
Nice work folks our contribution to race relations seems to be having introduced a new insult to the already too long a list. Ooooops.
I don't see that he was being racist, did they not have chicken for dinner?
Ofcom seems a bit too far.
Ofcom seems a bit too far.
Originally Posted by kitten59:
“You have got to be joking, how absurd! People are reading waaaaay too much into offhand comments. I don't like John, but in no way was that a slight. Come on, people. Get a grip.”
“You have got to be joking, how absurd! People are reading waaaaay too much into offhand comments. I don't like John, but in no way was that a slight. Come on, people. Get a grip.”
My feelings entirely, dont particularly like the bloke but jeeze
It was about as racist as Gordon Ramseys comment was homophobic in Hells Kitchen when someone asked Gordon where something was and he pointed across the kitchen and said it's over there next to the mincer, which Brian Dowling just happened to be standing in front of.
Get a grip people, Brian WAS standing next to the mincer and in this instance the HM's WERE having chicken. As I said elsewhere, it was lucky they weren't having rice and peas with their chicken or John wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Doh!
Get a grip people, Brian WAS standing next to the mincer and in this instance the HM's WERE having chicken. As I said elsewhere, it was lucky they weren't having rice and peas with their chicken or John wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Doh!
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“So I've had a little think about this thread since I posted my amazement at it.
And I've revised my opinion on it a little. I do believe it is correct to raise issues of racism even if it appears absolutely non racist initially. It is possible that racist comments occur even though most are completely oblivious to it. So it's fair and right to ask whether the comment was racist.
However, I would like to establish if it was chicken they were eating or not? Has this been confirmed yay or nay?
My initial response was of 'you can't be serious' about this thread. But then those affected by racism know more about the subtleties of it than others...”
“So I've had a little think about this thread since I posted my amazement at it.
And I've revised my opinion on it a little. I do believe it is correct to raise issues of racism even if it appears absolutely non racist initially. It is possible that racist comments occur even though most are completely oblivious to it. So it's fair and right to ask whether the comment was racist.
However, I would like to establish if it was chicken they were eating or not? Has this been confirmed yay or nay?
My initial response was of 'you can't be serious' about this thread. But then those affected by racism know more about the subtleties of it than others...”
Like your post Jules. My amazement has been reserved solely for what appears to be the majority on here who are determined to belittle and quell any discussion about the possibility of racist connotations here. I've said before and I will say again it is actually possible to talk about the racist slur element and still acknowledge that it's likely John didn't mean it that way. It seems people would rather laugh at the very existence of there being a racist slur regarding eating (fried) chicken.
I must say I do agree though that it would be interesting to know if chicken was on the menu. It's almost like the more people berate the idea of a racist connotation it makes me wonder if there is.
Originally Posted by mellick:
“It was about as racist as Gordon Ramseys comment was homophobic in Hells Kitchen when someone asked Gordon where something was and he pointed across the kitchen and said it's over there next to the mincer, which Brian Dowling just happened to be standing in front of.
Get a grip people, Brian WAS standing next to the mincer and in this instance the HM's WERE having chicken. As I said elsewhere, it was lucky they weren't having rice and peas with their chicken or John wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Doh!”
“It was about as racist as Gordon Ramseys comment was homophobic in Hells Kitchen when someone asked Gordon where something was and he pointed across the kitchen and said it's over there next to the mincer, which Brian Dowling just happened to be standing in front of.
Get a grip people, Brian WAS standing next to the mincer and in this instance the HM's WERE having chicken. As I said elsewhere, it was lucky they weren't having rice and peas with their chicken or John wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Doh!”
So they were having chicken? It's confirmed?
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Like your post Jules. My amazement has been reserved solely for what appears to be the majority on here who are determined to belittle and quell any discussion about the possibility of racist connotations here. I've said before and I will say again it is actually possible to talk about the racist slur element and still acknowledge that it's likely John didn't mean it that way. It seems people would rather laugh at the very existence of there being a racist slur regarding eating (fried) chicken.
I must say I do agree though that it would be interesting to know if chicken was on the menu. It's almost like the more people berate the idea of a racist connotation it makes me wonder if there is.”
“Like your post Jules. My amazement has been reserved solely for what appears to be the majority on here who are determined to belittle and quell any discussion about the possibility of racist connotations here. I've said before and I will say again it is actually possible to talk about the racist slur element and still acknowledge that it's likely John didn't mean it that way. It seems people would rather laugh at the very existence of there being a racist slur regarding eating (fried) chicken.
I must say I do agree though that it would be interesting to know if chicken was on the menu. It's almost like the more people berate the idea of a racist connotation it makes me wonder if there is.”
Yes. I think the notion that the comment could have been racist made me laugh. It seemed absurd. But perhaps I was a little too quick to dismiss it. It is possible that in not being racist that sometimes racism gets missed when you either don't 'think that way' or are not exposed to racism. So in this situation, as ludicrous as it seems - I understand the discussion is being had in the sense it is right to question whether it was.
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