Hi, I am replacing my Humax PVR 9300 and I think I have narrowed it down to either the HDR-2000T or the DTR-T1000, can anyone explain if there is much difference. Thank you.

Rather depends on what features you value most.

DTR-T1000 is a Youview box and has all the common On Demand catch up services. It lacks any sort of recording export capability (so you can use the recordings on other kit elsewhere). It also has no manual recording or recording padding capability, so if the broadcaster gets the recording codes wrong if they use them or deviates from the scheduled times you can lose part (or all of the recording). It has a reputation for not being very reliable (have a read on the various forums)

HDR-2000T is a Freeview+ box and has limited on demand services. It can however export recordings for use with other kit. (Even HD using a small programme by Raydon). It also has DLNA server and client, so you can remotely view SD recordings on other kit like smart phones and tablets. It can also replay content stored on other kit (like a PC). Additionally it has manual timers and autopadding. It does however appear to have HDMI handshake issues with some TV's.

Don't buy a DTR-T1000; the reliability is not good enough. If you want a Youview box for the larger range of catch up players look at a DTR-T2000 or DTR-T2100. If the extra catch up players are not important get an HDR-2000T which is an OK box with a few quirks that Humax seem uninterested in fixing.

Thanks for the feedback, defo need padding when recording so out of the two it would be HDR-2000T, now Martin Liddle as thrown up the DTR-T2000, I already have a smart TV with catch up TV, so would it be a waste of money to pay the extra £40 for the DTR-T2000 instead of the HDR-2000T. Thanks.

If you are open to a 2nd hand box, I would also have a look at the HDR-Fox T2 which can still be picked up from EBay or other sources. You can then use the customised firmware which has all sorts of useful packages and functionality, see HERE

OK thanks for that, will look in to it a bit more.

Ive got the 1800t, a slimmed down 2000. With reduced catchup functionality, via the humax tv portal via internet. On the other hand, its very easy to transfer recordings to a pc, to watch on a phone, via usb socket. The beeb often sets a dont de-encrypt flag on films, but u can remove it on the 1800 and 2000 ONLY (thanks graham thompson) using the foxy utility on a pc over network connection .......

Personally, i find the ability to transfer off air to phone more useful than ''full catchup''. Which u can still hav on the pc of course, but 14 '' screen ? But the point of a pvr is recording 4 when you CAN watch, without eating up internet data allowance ........

In what way is the catch up functionality reduced?


Can you explain what you mean (as written it makes no sense to me)?

My understanding is that all content on any of the Humax HD products is stored encrypted. On the HDR1800/2000T the encryption can be removed on SD recordings by copying to USB storage or streaming; HD content requires the use of the Foxy utility (which was written by Raydon not Graham Thompson) and this allows it be decrypted in the same way as SD content.

If any use, its also easy to transfer the 1800 and 2000 video.ts files to an externa usb plugin hard disk then u can do wot u want with them. Should work on drives up to 2t but not bigger due humax disk format limitations recognising nfts partitions. Although my seagate 4t works fine, because it's ''striped'' ........ (2 x 2t) ....

yes thats correct. Ive done all those, they work. Mr thompson rightly rebuked me on humax weird disk structures, but of course he didnt write foxy ....... Im just trying to say u can do these things on particular model number receivers ..... I find them very useful ......

The 1800 and 2000 can only get catchup via the humax tv portal, with limited not full services ...... in other words they are not branded as ''youview'' receivers ..... Youview humax do not have any method of encryption removal for file transfer to other devices

My 1800 also allows radio (ie audio only) recordings transferred to my mp3 player, useful, presumably also impossible on branded youview devices due to same encryption .....

Im just saying ,,,,,, dont see y i should pay internet charges for catchup, when i can record offair and watch how i want, with some legal caveats, for just the tv license ........

To make it quite clear ..... the 1800 and 2000t Humax freeview receivers ONLY allow unencryped video/audio file transfer to other devices, with encryption removal during usb transfer. Foxy will be required if ''dont decrypt'' flag is set, which it is on nearly all hd films, and some hd ones. This is clearly indicated by red ''enc'' shown on stored recordings. These 2 receivers only. Other hummy espec freesat hav more restricted or no file de-encypt when copying onto other devices ....

What makes you think that Radio and Standard Definition is encrypted on Youview devices?

Have a look at this link:
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/can-i-...49/#post-75136
There are also other posts on other forums that agree with the poster's views. I.e. that Youview SD and Radio are not encrypted and are stored on a non-encrypted partition.

Other posts (including other forums) gave that impression. Note that, if the copy protect flag is set on sd, which seems to be increasing, foxy wont work due to different encrpting method. Ok, i didnt know audio is on a different non encrypted partition. Seems humax do it differently with each new range of devices ........

Just read louis essex link above ..... It actually says the ''non encrypted'' sd youview recordings is on an xfs partition, and can only be got at with some difficulty ..... not quite as easy as copying via usb. Whereas, im saying what i know actually works. Well, ok, sometimes my hummy is a bit tempramental & needs 2 or 3 tries before connecting via ethernet switch .......

Just to be clear ...... The special structure partition is ''effective encryption'', if it has a non standard structure, so you can't easily read the files. Humax seem to use all sorts of different ''poor man's encryption'' tricks, different with each model number ........

What "non standard" structure are you talking about?

What TV's are affected, I have just bought a Sony and thinking of buying the 2000T.
Last edited by gital : 24-01-2016 at 14:19

A new Sony TV should be fine.

Thanks.

I very occasionally have the HDMI sound issue with an 2014 Sony model.
Barry over at myhumax.org has the same model of TV and has never had an issue.

For some example see https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/no-s...e/6#post-36863
In addition to those examples I have also seen described exactly the same issue with an LG TV.

I'm a bit undecided now whether to buy the 2000T to go with my Sony 40 R 483B which I bought a few weeks ago (now discontinued). I have a surround sound system through a Denon AV receiver and another PVR with no problems with sound at all. If I was to buy the 2000T and it was a problem then I cannot take it back as faulty and also as unwanted item.