Hey I never said big cliffhanger just that I suspected what they were going to do with Jace!

I suspect that as a book reader it was a bigger deal for me seeing it on screen because I loved the finale. Just enough of a cliffhanger to make you want it to carry on so you find out more.
I'm also glad that they're pulling in stories from the first three books in the series rather than doing it book by book because it means the pacing has been so much better.


Aye no need to worry about Alec and Magnus, the show has done a lot to let the viewer know this is true love. Alec is just realising the implications of their relationship and Magnus is letting him know that no-one, no matter how powerful, knows their fate.

Finally though we got scary Valentine as well as charismatic and compelling Valentine. They're really going to have to work more with him in Season Two though to make it clear just how dangerous he is. I was really pleased to see they did keep his ship full of dodgy created Shadowhunters from the books though.

Looking forward to giving the show another rewatch now all 13 episodes are out. Its improved immeasurably since the first few episodes.

I was only joking


I was still a bit meh about it, mainly because I've realised I haven't warmed to the guy playing Jace and don't really care. Was more gutted about Hodge

I know I'm teasing ya

I think Dom's improved as the season's gone on but they've not really given his character the same kind of journey development that they have to Alec.

Obviously in the first couple of books all the focus is on Clary and so everything is done from her perspective so because she's falling for Jace, you get more of a sense of their relationship and character progression so when he goes off with Valentine after the "Luke I am your father" big reveal, it has more impact.

Mind you, it also happens much later so there's an awful lot of extraneous crap that the TV show has thankfully cut out and reduced down. The pacing in the first three books is shockingly bad.

Malec for example, in the books you don't get any resolution between them until Book Three and then you find out it's all been happening "off page" which really pissed me off. Most of Malec actually takes place in books she's written outside the main six Mortal Instruments ones!

Hodge in the books is also vastly different, he's an old man, scholarly and a bit frail so I think they made a good choice in switching him to be the weapons master and making him younger so he was more of a friend than a teacher figure. Made the betrayal even harsher.

I think the finale worked well for what it needed to do, which was set up a few storylines to take into Season Two. They need to flesh out things a bit more going forward but I think it has the potential to run for a good few years fingers crossed.
But I do agree it wasn't particularly flashy or an epic resolvement of what'd been going on before hand.
Jocelyn's waking up for example was a bit of a - oh that's that then - but I guess they couldn't fit everything into a 45 min episode!

This I completely agree with. They could have cut out an earlier episode and had time to do this in episode 11 or 12 (hmm, maybe not 12 - LOL) and then they could have had Valentine for episode 13.

Personally, Valentine was completely wasted. They could have used him very sparingly but they kinda threw him out there without really giving him any oomph. Mistake as I honestly don't care at all about him and find him really rather rubbish as the big bad...

Still, roll on season 2. We've been spoiled this January with awesome shows. It's really been a rather fantastic start to the year.

They've not used Alan van Sprang well at all unfortunately. He's an amazingly charismatic actor (see his work on Reign which is a tossingly bad show but he's a stand out) and the character of Valentine is supposed to be able to manipulate people because of his charm and magnetism.
The only time I felt they got this right was when Hodge realised just how badly he'd been duped into handing over the Mortal Cup. Then you got a glimpse of the power of Valentine.

Still, overall I think it worked well as a finale, they closed up a few storylines, they opened up where they're going next with Season Two and they had some great set pieces.

This! It was a case throughout the series of tell rather than show. We are constantly told how BAD Valentine was, yet we never actually saw it (until that final glimpse).

Roll on January - that's all I can say

Excellent news, FreeForm has given Shadowhunters a 20 episode Second Season

https://tmisource.com/2016/04/07/sha...episode-order/

http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/04/sha...ped-to-20.html

Plus some of the first spoiler interviews coming out with the show creators.

This one's about Jace.

Also nice interview with Michael Reisz, who wrote the Malec episode about why it was important they got Alec's coming out right and why they deviated from the book story.

20 episodes!? Awesome news!

That is awesome news.

Cadiva, you're the goddess of news

Fingers crossed they're filming them all in advance as they have with Season One which is why they're back in pre-production already. Otherwise, as any US TV show pace watcher will know, there'll be gaps and breaks in a season which is that long!

Can't remember if I've put this on here or not already.

All the Malec from Season One

...I'd watch an entire season with just those two.

You're not the only one! The chemistry is simply spell binding.

Currently have their kiss as my Facebook cover photo and I'm not in the slightest bit ashamed

This does not surprise me. But it's only why we love you

Go for it

Thought you might have noticed the other day when I replied over on Facebook to your Uni picture on the Dungeons & Dragons thread Although actually you'd only see my profile pic wouldn't you, not the cover photo unless you went to my profile itself.


You're both too kind

Have a lovely Malec video to Walk the Line in thanks

I didn't look. But now you KNOW I'm gonna

Hey guys, signed up today and I've already watched episode 1!

My thoughts - Plenty to get my attention and enough unanswered questions to bring me back for the next ep. Getting a bigger budget but less original Buffy vibe from it.
Love the effect when the demons are stabbed.
Bit cliched to delay the talk until it's too late.
Not sure I like being called mundane! Think I prefer muggle
Hate not knowing who to trust (esp. Luke), but thought it was great when the shadowhunters came and saved the day, they'd built up some pretty convincing despair before that.

Sorry if this is off topic for this thread, but I think that horse has already bolted

Rule One: NOTHING is off limits!

I think I need to go and watch episode 1 again, now!

I do really enjoy the play off between the various factions. To be honest, not sure anyone can really trust any of them; they've all got agendas coming out of their runes

Glad you enjoyed it. If you liked episode 1 - you're going to love the rest of the season

Yay Lowri! A re-watch is now definitely in order. Glad to read you can see the potential in this show, it just gets better and better

I watched episode 1 again last night and it really is pretty good.

I think for many it's hard to look past how incredibly derivative it is, and there are a few niggles with the acting, but generally it's really a strong opening

I absolutely loved the whole opening sequence with the demon and Jace, Alec and Izzy tracking them through the district and down to Pandemonium. The reverse flip jump off the gantry was absolutely stunning visually.

Episode 2 - Not as enjoyable as the first episode, perhaps I've now seen too many superpowered rebel fighter shows/films, but it seemed a little slow. I did really like the Dot storyline (hope she made it, doubt she did) and the reveal of Clary's father. Not keen on whiny Simon so the kidnapping didn't really pack much of a punch! Forgot to say before, but I think the swords are really cool, hope we get to see more stuff like that.

Now onto Daredevil episode 1

Yeah I think EP2 was the weakest of them all, although it does lay down the beginnings of a lot of future storylines so it's worth it for that.