Problem with new TV

r055c · 25-04-2005, 17:50

I've just bought
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/stor...m=null&tm=null

My problem with it, is that i currently have my ps2 connected to the second scart socket (av2 i think) and when ever i am starting a game or even in the middle of a game it switches channel and goes to terrestrial tv.

The only workarond that i have discovered is to use the Picture in Picutre function and have 2 screens up on my display.... 1 for my ps2 and one for my tv.

In my scart 1 i have my sky box plugged into it. which is RGB. Scart 2 isn't.

Please help, this is annoying the life out of me

r055c · 26-04-2005, 14:54

Does nobody have any answers. Is it worth me ringing dixons support?

chrisjr · 26-04-2005, 15:25

The PS2 probably doesn't use pin-8 switching (ie a voltage applied to pin 8 of the SCART connector). If memory serves a PS2 doen't have a SCART does it?

That may be the root cause of the problem. With no "pin-8" signal the TV doesn't know there is anything using the SCART. So you will probably have to select AV2 manually. There is probably a button on the remote labelled AV or INPUT which selects the AV inputs or you use the up-down channel buttons (if any) to select a channel below 0.

asdigi · 26-04-2005, 17:24

what cable are you using for the ps/2? the one it came with which has red, white and yellow phono plugs into a scart adapter or something else you've purchased?

r055c · 26-04-2005, 17:47

Quote:

That may be the root cause of the problem. With no "pin-8" signal the TV doesn't know there is anything using the SCART. So you will probably have to select AV2 manually. There is probably a button on the remote labelled AV or INPUT which selects the AV inputs or you use the up-down channel buttons (if any) to select a channel below 0.

I select the channel manualy but still the same thing happems

Quote:

what cable are you using for the ps/2? the one it came with which has red, white and yellow phono plugs into a scart adapter or something else you've purchased?

I don't use the lead that came with it as i wanted to have a true scart connection. so i bought a ps2 scart lead.

This is the same scart lead that i used with my old tv (which it was used in conjuction with a scart splitter box) and i had no problems.

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated

asdigi · 26-04-2005, 18:23

does it happen when the ps2 is connected to the first scart socket or if sky is connected to the second scart socket?

r055c · 28-04-2005, 11:28

I'ved tried it connecting through Scart1 and it works fine but this time when i connect my Sky to Scart2, i just get a blank screen.

I have not mentioned this before but i have access to change the type of AV connections for AV1 and AV" which are
AV1:"RGB","CVBS","S-Video"
AV2: "YUV","CVBS","S-Video"

My current settings are AV1=RGB and AV2=YUV

Does this make any difference to the problem

asdigi · 28-04-2005, 13:14

av1 is right and av2 i think should be set to cvbs but im not 100% sure

sean oconnor · 28-04-2005, 18:42

on my amp i run my ps2 through scart 2 via the phonos my sky on scart1 via phonos my vhs onscart 3 via phonos and my t.v. on output one via phonos on a sony system and it works fine try the phono leads that came with the ps2 mate

r055c · 28-04-2005, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdigi

av1 is right and av2 i think should be set to cvbs but im not 100% sure

Thanks for the help there cos i think you have just found the problem. When turning on the ps2 the av settings are set to CVBS but for some reason at a random point in the game it switches back to YUV and thus switches back to normal tv.

Although the problem has been identified, does anybody know the cuase of this as although it still swtches it doesn't seem to switch as often

Davester · 28-04-2005, 21:48

Since it loves to switch to YUV, why not LEAVE it on YUV and set the PS2 to output YUV in the system menu?

Simply Switch it on without a disc in, select System Configuration, scroll down to 'Component Video Out' And change it to "Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr", that should solve it for now.

Also if it works should give you a better picture.

bobbyk · 28-04-2005, 22:05

I work for currys, so i sell these tv's.

First things first = IT's NOT TO BE USED FOR GAMING.

Secondly, if you were told so [and i mean if you actually told the sales person that you would be playing games (ps2 xbox) on it ] that it is okay. take it back.

r055c · 28-04-2005, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyk

I work for currys, so i sell these tv's.

First things first = IT's NOT TO BE USED FOR GAMING.

Secondly, if you were told so [and i mean if you actually told the sales person that you would be playing games (ps2 xbox) on it ] that it is okay. take it back.

Whys it not supposed to be used for gaming

Davester · 28-04-2005, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davester

Since it loves to switch to YUV, why not LEAVE it on YUV and set the PS2 to output YUV in the system menu?

Simply Switch it on without a disc in, select System Configuration, scroll down to 'Component Video Out' And change it to "Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr", that should solve it for now.

Also if it works should give you a better picture.

Have you read my reply? it's a potential solution.

r055c · 28-04-2005, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davester

Have you read my reply? it's a potential solution.

Sorry i did read about it but forgot about it

I'll give that a shot but at the moment my tv is working fine

alanwarwic · 28-04-2005, 23:03

amazing. So Curry wont let you use a TV for gaming.
I better think twice before I plug my video or DVD into a 'Currys' TV.
They might fry me.

I know Currys, Dixons and Comet are right so and sos when u try to take anything back. They are getting inventive with their escuses methinks.
However if as you said it s the PS2s fault then not a lot you can do about it.

bobbyk · 29-04-2005, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

amazing. So Curry wont let you use a TV for gaming.
I better think twice before I plug my video or DVD into a 'Currys' TV.
They might fry me.

I know Currys, Dixons and Comet are right so and sos when u try to take anything back. They are getting inventive with their escuses methinks.
However if as you said it s the PS2s fault then not a lot you can do about it.

Firstly this is not the place for a grumble. I'm giving the information i know from using it every day for the past year.

Neither lcd's or plasmas are designed for gaming use. Its down to RESOLUTION settings. But i thought it might be to technincal an explaination for some.

Anyway rant over - i was just giving some insider knowledge.

sanderton · 30-04-2005, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyk

Neither lcd's or plasmas are designed for gaming use. Its down to RESOLUTION settings. But i thought it might be to technincal an explaination for some..

Poppycock. There is no problem using a LCD or plasma with a games console. They output exactly the same PAL video signal as any other set top box. Hope that's not too technical an explaination.

Troon · 30-04-2005, 07:49

Quote:

to technincal an explaination

If the explanation is as hard to read as your typing, you may be right: one out of four words correct is pretty rough...

But as sanderton rightly says, your "insider knowledge" is utter rubbish. The only possible reason for not using consoles with certain technologies is the risk of burn-in, if you exclusively play the same game for hours a day.

r055c's problem seems related to the video signal type, possibly complicated by different pin-8 signalling on the Sky box and the console.

bobbyk · 30-04-2005, 18:31

Troon - yep burn-in is one problem, granted its not the one which started the discussion.

Im only passing on information from the product rep, who paid the store a visit a while back.

r055c · 30-04-2005, 20:38

My thread seems to have started a heated debate/conversation between some tech guys

Any way the problem that i had with my tv has not happened again since my last post so i'm guessing that this is now fixed and the problem was in fact that the av was on the wrong setting

25-04-2005, 17:50	#1
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Problem with new TV I've just bought http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/stor...m=null&tm=null My problem with it, is that i currently have my ps2 connected to the second scart socket (av2 i think) and when ever i am starting a game or even in the middle of a game it switches channel and goes to terrestrial tv. The only workarond that i have discovered is to use the Picture in Picutre function and have 2 screens up on my display.... 1 for my ps2 and one for my tv. In my scart 1 i have my sky box plugged into it. which is RGB. Scart 2 isn't. Please help, this is annoying the life out of me

26-04-2005, 14:54	#2
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Does nobody have any answers. Is it worth me ringing dixons support?

26-04-2005, 15:25	#3
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	The PS2 probably doesn't use pin-8 switching (ie a voltage applied to pin 8 of the SCART connector). If memory serves a PS2 doen't have a SCART does it? That may be the root cause of the problem. With no "pin-8" signal the TV doesn't know there is anything using the SCART. So you will probably have to select AV2 manually. There is probably a button on the remote labelled AV or INPUT which selects the AV inputs or you use the up-down channel buttons (if any) to select a channel below 0.

26-04-2005, 17:24	#4
asdigi Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,914	what cable are you using for the ps/2? the one it came with which has red, white and yellow phono plugs into a scart adapter or something else you've purchased?

26-04-2005, 17:47	#5
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Quote: That may be the root cause of the problem. With no "pin-8" signal the TV doesn't know there is anything using the SCART. So you will probably have to select AV2 manually. There is probably a button on the remote labelled AV or INPUT which selects the AV inputs or you use the up-down channel buttons (if any) to select a channel below 0. I select the channel manualy but still the same thing happems Quote: what cable are you using for the ps/2? the one it came with which has red, white and yellow phono plugs into a scart adapter or something else you've purchased? I don't use the lead that came with it as i wanted to have a true scart connection. so i bought a ps2 scart lead. This is the same scart lead that i used with my old tv (which it was used in conjuction with a scart splitter box) and i had no problems. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated

26-04-2005, 18:23	#6
asdigi Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,914	does it happen when the ps2 is connected to the first scart socket or if sky is connected to the second scart socket?

28-04-2005, 11:28	#7
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	I'ved tried it connecting through Scart1 and it works fine but this time when i connect my Sky to Scart2, i just get a blank screen. I have not mentioned this before but i have access to change the type of AV connections for AV1 and AV" which are AV1:"RGB","CVBS","S-Video" AV2: "YUV","CVBS","S-Video" My current settings are AV1=RGB and AV2=YUV Does this make any difference to the problem

28-04-2005, 13:14	#8
asdigi Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,914	av1 is right and av2 i think should be set to cvbs but im not 100% sure

28-04-2005, 18:42	#9
sean oconnor Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 14	on my amp i run my ps2 through scart 2 via the phonos my sky on scart1 via phonos my vhs onscart 3 via phonos and my t.v. on output one via phonos on a sony system and it works fine try the phono leads that came with the ps2 mate

28-04-2005, 20:29	#10
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Quote: Originally Posted by asdigi av1 is right and av2 i think should be set to cvbs but im not 100% sure Thanks for the help there cos i think you have just found the problem. When turning on the ps2 the av settings are set to CVBS but for some reason at a random point in the game it switches back to YUV and thus switches back to normal tv. Although the problem has been identified, does anybody know the cuase of this as although it still swtches it doesn't seem to switch as often

28-04-2005, 21:48	#11
Davester Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greater London, UK Posts: 1,362	Since it loves to switch to YUV, why not LEAVE it on YUV and set the PS2 to output YUV in the system menu? Simply Switch it on without a disc in, select System Configuration, scroll down to 'Component Video Out' And change it to "Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr", that should solve it for now. Also if it works should give you a better picture.

28-04-2005, 22:05	#12
bobbyk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 313	I work for currys, so i sell these tv's. First things first = IT's NOT TO BE USED FOR GAMING. Secondly, if you were told so [and i mean if you actually told the sales person that you would be playing games (ps2 xbox) on it ] that it is okay. take it back.

28-04-2005, 22:11	#13
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Quote: Originally Posted by bobbyk I work for currys, so i sell these tv's. First things first = IT's NOT TO BE USED FOR GAMING. Secondly, if you were told so [and i mean if you actually told the sales person that you would be playing games (ps2 xbox) on it ] that it is okay. take it back. Whys it not supposed to be used for gaming

28-04-2005, 22:24	#14
Davester Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greater London, UK Posts: 1,362	Quote: Originally Posted by Davester Since it loves to switch to YUV, why not LEAVE it on YUV and set the PS2 to output YUV in the system menu? Simply Switch it on without a disc in, select System Configuration, scroll down to 'Component Video Out' And change it to "Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr", that should solve it for now. Also if it works should give you a better picture. Have you read my reply? it's a potential solution.

28-04-2005, 22:34	#15
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Quote: Originally Posted by Davester Have you read my reply? it's a potential solution. Sorry i did read about it but forgot about it I'll give that a shot but at the moment my tv is working fine

28-04-2005, 23:03	#16
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	amazing. So Curry wont let you use a TV for gaming. I better think twice before I plug my video or DVD into a 'Currys' TV. They might fry me. I know Currys, Dixons and Comet are right so and sos when u try to take anything back. They are getting inventive with their escuses methinks. However if as you said it s the PS2s fault then not a lot you can do about it.

29-04-2005, 21:52	#17
bobbyk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 313	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic amazing. So Curry wont let you use a TV for gaming. I better think twice before I plug my video or DVD into a 'Currys' TV. They might fry me. I know Currys, Dixons and Comet are right so and sos when u try to take anything back. They are getting inventive with their escuses methinks. However if as you said it s the PS2s fault then not a lot you can do about it. Firstly this is not the place for a grumble. I'm giving the information i know from using it every day for the past year. Neither lcd's or plasmas are designed for gaming use. Its down to RESOLUTION settings. But i thought it might be to technincal an explaination for some. Anyway rant over - i was just giving some insider knowledge.

30-04-2005, 00:36	#18
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	Quote: Originally Posted by bobbyk Neither lcd's or plasmas are designed for gaming use. Its down to RESOLUTION settings. But i thought it might be to technincal an explaination for some.. Poppycock. There is no problem using a LCD or plasma with a games console. They output exactly the same PAL video signal as any other set top box. Hope that's not too technical an explaination.

30-04-2005, 07:49	#19
Troon Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 26	Quote: to technincal an explaination If the explanation is as hard to read as your typing, you may be right: one out of four words correct is pretty rough... But as sanderton rightly says, your "insider knowledge" is utter rubbish. The only possible reason for not using consoles with certain technologies is the risk of burn-in, if you exclusively play the same game for hours a day. r055c's problem seems related to the video signal type, possibly complicated by different pin-8 signalling on the Sky box and the console.

30-04-2005, 18:31	#20
bobbyk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 313	Troon - yep burn-in is one problem, granted its not the one which started the discussion. Im only passing on information from the product rep, who paid the store a visit a while back.

30-04-2005, 20:38	#21
r055c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13	My thread seems to have started a heated debate/conversation between some tech guys Any way the problem that i had with my tv has not happened again since my last post so i'm guessing that this is now fixed and the problem was in fact that the av was on the wrong setting

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