I don't think it was scripted David happened to be on that day which just emphasised the matter. To be honest I was suprised Angie told Tiffany of all people. I don't think Tiffany would've immediately thought David Bowie. It's a easy misunderstanding she probably felt silly after making the mistake that might be why she acted badly.
Were we all taken for fools last night??
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Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
are you kidding this was hand rubbing stuff for the producers... if Angie would have left through her "grief" or kept quiet as she pretended she wanted it to be in the dairy room , it would never have happened, she caused it all.
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“I just think that the whole thing felt scripted, false and unreal, all of a sudden David takes to his bed and covers himself up completely, then Angie, who had accepted the news, had a grizzle , and then move on, suddenly seemed to lose it and start telling Tiff that 'David is dead' Tiff doesnt even bother to ask what she meant and which David, then conveniently David is tucked away, covered up, so that she doesnt know where he is. The others then go into the bedroom to find the 'body ' covered up and then pretend that they think he has passed away.
As judge Judy says' if it doesnt make sense then it is probably a lie, for everything to be set up like that the right people in the right places , I really do feel that the house, that is almost full of actors and reality tv stars, acted it out to a script.
Then for them all to turn on Tff so nastily, that made no sense either, she mad a mistake, why did they all suddenly want her gone??
It all felt so false and not a lot of it made any sense.”
“I just think that the whole thing felt scripted, false and unreal, all of a sudden David takes to his bed and covers himself up completely, then Angie, who had accepted the news, had a grizzle , and then move on, suddenly seemed to lose it and start telling Tiff that 'David is dead' Tiff doesnt even bother to ask what she meant and which David, then conveniently David is tucked away, covered up, so that she doesnt know where he is. The others then go into the bedroom to find the 'body ' covered up and then pretend that they think he has passed away.
As judge Judy says' if it doesnt make sense then it is probably a lie, for everything to be set up like that the right people in the right places , I really do feel that the house, that is almost full of actors and reality tv stars, acted it out to a script.
Then for them all to turn on Tff so nastily, that made no sense either, she mad a mistake, why did they all suddenly want her gone??
It all felt so false and not a lot of it made any sense.”
Why would she ask which David?
As they "supposedly" have no contact with the outside world, why would Tiffany think she was talking about anyone else than those on the house, if it is about recent events?
Originally Posted by sodafountain:
“Why would she ask which David?
As they "supposedly" have no contact with the outside world, why would Tiffany think she was talking about anyone else than those on the house, if it is about recent events?”
“Why would she ask which David?
As they "supposedly" have no contact with the outside world, why would Tiffany think she was talking about anyone else than those on the house, if it is about recent events?”
totally agree,,, Tyfanny had no idea news had come in from outside.. she showed emotion and was truly upset at the supposed Gest dying.. which shows she has a heart.. anyone would have thought the same listening to Angie..
Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
It would have been wise to nip it in the bud, but I can only imagine that they thought Tiffany was a crazed Bowie fan when she started shrieking, and it wasn't apparent that she misunderstood until she was shouting about David Gest being dead and it was too late then.
If it was a script it was a pretty poor one!
What do you think this is, Channel 5? .... Oh wait, Point taken.
What do you think this is, Channel 5? .... Oh wait, Point taken.
Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
I don't know...I don't think they should have shown it in some ways, but when it came to actual intervention as it was happening, I take your point...only trouble is that from what I saw I am not sure that they would have realised it was all going properly belly up till it was too late. As it went on they might have thought it would get sorted sooner and less messier than it did and not thought to do what would have been to err on the side of caution, hindsight of course being a wonderful thing. Of course we have only seen an edit and it looks like some of the over-reaction came from others whereas there might have been something that genuinely made them respond as they did.
I remember being a witness to a situation like that at work where we thought it was a misunderstanding and someone lost it a bit initially being dealt with in fun and it suddenly turned unpleasant out of the blue. Unlike this situation though, lots of people who did not see or hear any of it at all jumped on the bandwagon on various sides, which made it a lot worse.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“I don't know...I don't think they should have shown it in some ways, but when it came to actual intervention as it was happening, I take your point...only trouble is that from what I saw I am not sure that they would have realised it was all going properly belly up till it was too late. As it went on they might have thought it would get sorted sooner and less messier than it did and not thought to do what would have been to err on the side of caution, hindsight of course being a wonderful thing. Of course we have only seen an edit and it looks like some of the over-reaction came from others whereas there might have been something that genuinely made them respond as they did.
I remember being a witness to a situation like that at work where we thought it was a misunderstanding and someone lost it a bit initially being dealt with in fun and it suddenly turned unpleasant out of the blue. Unlike this situation though, lots of people who did not see or hear any of it at all jumped on the bandwagon on various sides, which made it a lot worse.”
“I don't know...I don't think they should have shown it in some ways, but when it came to actual intervention as it was happening, I take your point...only trouble is that from what I saw I am not sure that they would have realised it was all going properly belly up till it was too late. As it went on they might have thought it would get sorted sooner and less messier than it did and not thought to do what would have been to err on the side of caution, hindsight of course being a wonderful thing. Of course we have only seen an edit and it looks like some of the over-reaction came from others whereas there might have been something that genuinely made them respond as they did.
I remember being a witness to a situation like that at work where we thought it was a misunderstanding and someone lost it a bit initially being dealt with in fun and it suddenly turned unpleasant out of the blue. Unlike this situation though, lots of people who did not see or hear any of it at all jumped on the bandwagon on various sides, which made it a lot worse.”
why do people do that without understanding the scenario... its very childish and cliquish... look at Daniella last night she was jumpiing for one to the other to crucify...
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“Yep, the whole scenario is just too convenient.”
“Yep, the whole scenario is just too convenient.”
Maybe it was a task?
"Angie! Big Brother would like you to trick a housemate into thinking David Gest is dead"
Err... i can't believe that though.
Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
Absolutely agree. I do thing BB might have manipulated the situation by "advising" David to rest. That part seemed set up. They should have intervened. This situation might have been funny if the deceased person had no connection to any of the housemates but this was not the case. Under those circumstances it was irresponsible to let this chaos to continue. It added to Angie's distress and was unnecessary.
I do feel BB pushed the envelope last night and should have intervened before it developed into the farce it became. It ultimately made Bowies death look like a comedy.
Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“Maybe it was a task?
"Angie! Big Brother would like you to trick a housemate into thinking David Gest is dead"
Err... i can't believe that though.”
“Maybe it was a task?
"Angie! Big Brother would like you to trick a housemate into thinking David Gest is dead"
Err... i can't believe that though.”
Because it's always the best time to get someone to play a prank - right after you've given them the news of their ex-husband's (or anyone else for that matter) death
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
Angie could have left though or stayed quiet.. she didnt..
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Because it's always the best time to get someone to play a prank - right after you've given them the news of their ex-husband's (or anyone else for that matter) death”
“Because it's always the best time to get someone to play a prank - right after you've given them the news of their ex-husband's (or anyone else for that matter) death
”
Well no-one would suspect them of doing a secret task would they?
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
Rational people don't believe it.
It is more of a sad indictment that so many viewers are so lacking in empathy that they think it is the case.
Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
“I agree that it wasn't scripted.
My thought while watching it was that BB should have intervened as soon as it was clear that Tiff thought David Gest was dead.
It was very irresponsible of BB to allow such a painful and distressing misunderstanding to continue.”
My thoughts entirely.
However, as usual they just allowed the situation to run its course, and I managed to quell my feelings of revulsion, horror and slightly hysteria enough to watch the entire episode to the bitter end, albeit through splayed, whitened fingers.
It wasn't scripted. But i have to admit to feeling suspicious about it all when i thought back on last nights events over breakfast this morning.
Originally Posted by benjamini:
“I do feel BB pushed the envelope last night and should have intervened before it developed into the farce it became. It ultimately made Bowies death look like a comedy.”
“I do feel BB pushed the envelope last night and should have intervened before it developed into the farce it became. It ultimately made Bowies death look like a comedy.”
But it Didnt. It made the mix up look like comedy. There was no comedy surrounding Bowies death. Bowie had a sense of humour and would have laughed at the mix up. Even Bowie fans who don't like Big Brother have watched the clip online and said it was hilarious.
You make it sound like they are laughing over David Bowies death. The thing that made it funny is how far misunderstandings can go and what made it interesting is that you can't script real emotion.
Originally Posted by sodafountain:
“Why would she ask which David?
As they "supposedly" have no contact with the outside world, why would Tiffany think she was talking about anyone else than those on the house, if it is about recent events?”
“Why would she ask which David?
As they "supposedly" have no contact with the outside world, why would Tiffany think she was talking about anyone else than those on the house, if it is about recent events?”
The first thing you would say is' what ?? OUR David???? no way would you just take it as gospel especially after Angie said it was cancer, cancer cannot kill with no warning like that. the whole thing makes no sense at all , either Angie and Tiff are the thickest humans on the earth, or something had been suggested to them. I think that Angie, Tiff and David were in on it, at least.
These days on reality tv, you cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is scripted or suggested to them as a 'storyline'
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Angie could have left though or stayed quiet.. she didnt..”
“Angie could have left though or stayed quiet.. she didnt..”
Her bereavement, her choice. Personally it wouldn't surprise me if after a day or two she walks.
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
“Is it a sad indictment of what BB has become that an immediate reaction to a HM suffering a bereavement (no matter how remote in time the relationship) is to believe BB would make her take the lead part in a scripted farce exploiting the death?”
It's beyond sad, it's unhinged.
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Well no-one would suspect them of doing a secret task would they?”
“Well no-one would suspect them of doing a secret task would they?
”
So the producers first thought when hearing about Bowie's death was "I know, let's get his ex-wife to play some jolly prank once we've got the nasty business of breaking the news of his death to her out of the way. She's bound to be in the mood for a secret task".
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Angie could have left though or stayed quiet.. she didnt..”
“Angie could have left though or stayed quiet.. she didnt..”
She was revelling in it, to start with when told, she had no real reaction at all, a former lover from 40 years ago, you may think, 'oh thats sad' and move on. if my ex from years ago died, I would hardly bat an eyelid. we all know she had an almost hatred of him, she was very bitter.
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Her bereavement, her choice. Personally it wouldn't surprise me if after a day or two she walks.”
“Her bereavement, her choice. Personally it wouldn't surprise me if after a day or two she walks.”
doubt it..
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