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Angie deserved an oscar in the diary room.
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linmic
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“You have no idea about what life experiences make someone how they are.

Some people fight tooth & nail for their kids, others lose all will to fight and their lives can descend into chaos (as it sounds hers did).

Either way, none of us have the right to judge others.”

I used to be pretty judgmental myself when I was younger, full of opinions on what I would and wouldnt do in certain situations and how other people were 'wrong' to allow certain things to happen. Then life gave me some pretty unfair, swift kicks up the backside and stuff happened that I just could not control etc etc etc.

If it taught me anything it was that there is usually a reason why people behave like they do. Do not judge someones story by the chapter you walked in on. Theres always much more to it.
Angie_Plasty
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I find this thread very distasteful.

She has obviously never let go of David, given that she talks about him so much. I myself split up with my ex nearly 30 years ago and most of the ensuing time has felt surreal, like a bad dream I will wake up from and everything be OK again. That is despite the fact that I have been in a stable, happy, loving relationship for some years now. Even though I don't revolve around my memories of him and am happier in my current relationship, I still talk about my ex, because you cannot avoid it when someone is so integral to so many memories and life events, and if he died, I'd be devastated. You cannot switch off love whether someone dies or discards you like an old boot. The trauma of what Angie went through left her with a lot of unresolved issues and feelings. Angie's whole identity had been wrapped around him, so losing him felt like having the core of her being ripped out of her. She's a flawed person like the rest of us, but your heartless comments are uncalled for.”

Well said, Flora, I completely agree. I can only imagine all the conflicting thoughts and feelings brought up for her when she heard the news.
Purple.
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I find this thread very distasteful.

She has obviously never let go of David, given that she talks about him so much. I myself split up with my ex nearly 30 years ago and most of the ensuing time has felt surreal, like a bad dream I will wake up from and everything be OK again. That is despite the fact that I have been in a stable, happy, loving relationship for some years now. Even though I don't revolve around my memories of him and am happier in my current relationship, I still talk about my ex, because you cannot avoid it when someone is so integral to so many memories and life events, and if he died, I'd be devastated. You cannot switch off love whether someone dies or discards you like an old boot. The trauma of what Angie went through left her with a lot of unresolved issues and feelings. Angie's whole identity had been wrapped around him, so losing him felt like having the core of her being ripped out of her. She's a flawed person like the rest of us, but your heartless comments are uncalled for.”

Well said.
jack_blair
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Well said, Flora, I completely agree. I can only imagine all the conflicting thoughts and feelings brought up for her when she heard the news.”

she also mentioned her mother and dying of cancer
I think that got her upset too, combination of the two really

She's eccentric, and very animated and dramatic , heart on sleeve

, some will see that as faking reactions,
but i'm sure she was being very genuine with her emotions
JVS
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“Just came across this by Piers Morgan and he hits the nail bang on regarding this sick stunt they pulled last night.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3x8BlUbXj”

Luckily everybody knows PM and his morals regarding respect towards other people.

On BOTS Rylan said that Angie's representatives broke the news to her and it wasn't filmed, the rest was shown with her permission. Get it right Piers Morgan, or did he deliberately skew the truth to make it sound more salacious?
BabelBrook
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Luckily everybody knows PM and his morals regarding respect towards other people.

On BOTS Rylan said that Angie's representatives broke the news to her and it wasn't filmed, the rest was shown with her permission. Get it right Piers Morgan, or did he deliberately skew the truth to make it sound more salacious?”

I like the way he justifies his earnings off DB's death as acceptable because he wrote a puff piece.
too_much_coffee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Luckily everybody knows PM and his morals regarding respect towards other people.

On BOTS Rylan said that Angie's representatives broke the news to her and it wasn't filmed, the rest was shown with her permission. Get it right Piers Morgan, or did he deliberately skew the truth to make it sound more salacious?”

Piers the Phone Hacker wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on his sanctimonious a*se
sutie
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“Tiffany doesn't need the water over her head. It's John who needs it”




I'd actually keep a bucket of water on stand by for Tiffany. It's the only answer to her attention-seeking hysteria.
Lushness
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“You have no idea about what life experiences make someone how they are.

Some people fight tooth & nail for their kids, others lose all will to fight and their lives can descend into chaos (as it sounds hers did).

Either way, none of us have the right to judge others.”


You must hate it in here, folks are judging others within each and every thread!
amelia_lee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I find this thread very distasteful.

She has obviously never let go of David, given that she talks about him so much. I myself split up with my ex nearly 30 years ago and most of the ensuing time has felt surreal, like a bad dream I will wake up from and everything be OK again. That is despite the fact that I have been in a stable, happy, loving relationship for some years now. Even though I don't revolve around my memories of him and am happier in my current relationship, I still talk about my ex, because you cannot avoid it when someone is so integral to so many memories and life events, and if he died, I'd be devastated. You cannot switch off love whether someone dies or discards you like an old boot. The trauma of what Angie went through left her with a lot of unresolved issues and feelings. Angie's whole identity had been wrapped around him, so losing him felt like having the core of her being ripped out of her. She's a flawed person like the rest of us, but your heartless comments are uncalled for.”

She has based her life on him, not as she hasn't let him go, but because he is a tool from which she can get what she wants, attention/fame/money.

She is a narcissist, watching her, she had no emotion about it, no real tears, oh yes she wailed a few times, none of it was genuine.

She is an extreme narcissist and possibly borderline sociopath, she doesn't process emotions as normal people do, all she thinks about is how anything, even David's death will benefit her and get her more attention. People should stop projecting how they would feel/normal people would feel about such a situation, it is not the same for someone like Angie. David's death is a tool for her.
shirlt9
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“What a performance. I've no doubt she was shocked by the news of David's death but oh boy she then grabbed this golden opportunity for attention with both hands - one second agreeing on privacy and silence outside the DR with David and John and then barely holding out for seconds once she stepped outside. She couldn't wait to blab it out and lap up the sympathy.

As for Tiffany....a huge bucket of water over her head was needed mid-rant.”

2 hours had passed between finding out and telling Tiffany
ForGodsSake
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by WSAG:
“Quoting Piers Morgan AND the Daily Mail.....blimey things must be bad!!

To be fair though Morgan is quite well placed to comment on salacious media output for the masses...some people have short memories!!”

The same lying Piers Morgan who sanctioned phone hacking ?
The one who would say owt for a story ?

Right.

Next !
ForGodsSake
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“She has based her life on him, not as she hasn't let him go, but because he is a tool from which she can get what she wants, attention/fame/money.

She is a narcissist, watching her, she had no emotion about it, no real tears, oh yes she wailed a few times, none of it was genuine.

She is an extreme narcissist and possibly borderline sociopath, she doesn't process emotions as normal people do, all she thinks about is how anything, even David's death will benefit her and get her more attention. People should stop projecting how they would feel/normal people would feel about such a situation, it is not the same for someone like Angie. David's death is a tool for her.”

And you gauged all this from a few hours on a gameshow ?

Right.

Next !
too_much_coffee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“The same lying Piers Morgan who sanctioned phone hacking ?
The one who would say owt for a story ?

Right.

Next !”

That'll be the same Piers Morgan who vehemently denied being involved until there was too much evidence to the contrary.
too_much_coffee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lushness:
“You must hate it in here, folks are judging others within each and every thread! ”

The majority of posters (certainly those whose posts are worth reading) share their opinions without judging HMs.

There is a vast difference between the two.
Dejavu
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“Then don't read them.

She's put herself out there so I'll comment as I see fit.”

Classy!
evie71
13-01-2016
[quote=Flora_McDonald;81074926]I find this thread very distasteful.

She has obviously never let go of David, given that she talks about him so much. I myself split up with my ex nearly 30 years ago and most of the ensuing time has felt surreal, like a bad dream I will wake up from and everything be OK again. That is despite the fact that I have been in a stable, happy, loving relationship for some years now. Even though I don't revolve around my memories of him and am happier in my current relationship, I still talk about my ex, because you cannot avoid it when someone is so integral to so many memories and life events, and if he died, I'd be devastated. You cannot switch off love whether someone dies or discards you like an old boot. The trauma of what Angie went through left her with a lot of unresolved issues and feelings. Angie's whole identity had been wrapped around him, so losing him felt like having the core of her being ripped out of her. She's a flawed person like the rest of us, but your heartless comments are uncalled for.[/QUOTE

She has spent the past 30 - 40 years running him down and selling strories about him. Where is the love in that? Had Db been a bricklayer she'd have lost the name years ago.
Arthur_B
13-01-2016
Interestingly, Jonathan's been quite snidey towards Angie since leaving the house. He seems to believe her reaction was fake.
jack_blair
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“Interestingly, Jonathan's been quite snidey towards Angie since leaving the house. He seems to believe her reaction was fake.”

the man was so absorbed with himself
surprised he noticed anyone other than his own reflection
when he was ever hugged by a HM he had his arms by his sides
he couldn't wait to get out of there

he thought he was above all of them,apart from Nancy,who he said he'd like to keep in touch with

she was the only one with any class , he said
yet he never spent any time with her , as he said she was always asleep or getting herself ready !
GrozzyGirl
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I find this thread very distasteful.

She has obviously never let go of David, given that she talks about him so much. I myself split up with my ex nearly 30 years ago and most of the ensuing time has felt surreal, like a bad dream I will wake up from and everything be OK again. That is despite the fact that I have been in a stable, happy, loving relationship for some years now. Even though I don't revolve around my memories of him and am happier in my current relationship, I still talk about my ex, because you cannot avoid it when someone is so integral to so many memories and life events, and if he died, I'd be devastated. You cannot switch off love whether someone dies or discards you like an old boot. The trauma of what Angie went through left her with a lot of unresolved issues and feelings. Angie's whole identity had been wrapped around him, so losing him felt like having the core of her being ripped out of her. She's a flawed person like the rest of us, but your heartless comments are uncalled for.”

Agree.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Some things you say are so right.... but I can honestly say Im not and have never been as flawed as the ex Mrs Bowie..”

Then you are fortunate
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“Then don't read them.

She's put herself out there so I'll comment as I see fit.”

You are entitled to comment but others are similarly entitled to say your observations and judgements show a lack of comprehension and compassion.
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“I disagree. I thought she was putting it on. Her scheming beady little eyes had no emotion in them whatsoever.”

She's not very stable. I'm not sure she knows how to behave, or even knows what she thinks, but huge numbers of people who never knew DB were shocked and upset by his death, so I think it's highly unlikely that she wasn't.

Originally Posted by calamity:
“The woman is wrapped in her own cocoon... Ive never been that way... and would never have let my son be taken from me..”

You were not in her position, you don't know the details, she says she made the best decision for her son at the time.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“oh yes I do have a right... I am nowhere and nothing like this woman, I had to fight to keep my sons and fight I did..no one takes me children.”

And herby hangs the reason you are not willing to be open minded about this, you're comparing her situation to your own. But I think they must be very different.

Angie is a sad individual. Her reactions to everything is a bit weird. Nothing contrived, more like confused.
Vesna
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“Interestingly, Jonathan's been quite snidey towards Angie since leaving the house. He seems to believe her reaction was fake.”

Jonathan was quite snidey about her from day 1 when he told her to make him a coffee and she told him to do it himself and he, at 42 years old, claimed he didn't know how.

Jonathan only liked the people who sucked up to him.
Vesna
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by evie71:
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She has spent the past 30 - 40 years running him down and selling strories about him. Where is the love in that? Had Db been a bricklayer she'd have lost the name years ago.”

I see you really aren't that informed about David and Angie. She's the reason anyone ever got to buy a David Bowie record. She built him up and then he tossed her out.
amelia_lee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“And you gauged all this from a few hours on a gameshow ?

Right.

Next !”

Oh no, it's looking at her behaviour in the house and previous behaviour.

There are various things written about her from when her and David just met that are key pointers too. It's not just based on her behaviour in the house, although that does prove it. There was no tears, however she insisted on telling people she was/had cried. She has no genuine emotion.
jack_blair
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Oh no, it's looking at her behaviour in the house and previous behaviour.

There are various things written about her from when her and David just met that are key pointers too. It's not just based on her behaviour in the house, although that does prove it. There was no tears, however she insisted on telling people she was/had cried. She has no genuine emotion.”

she'd spent a long time with her agent off camera talking about it
she had time to compose before she was shown in the DR ,
and even then, she was still going over it all in her head,
you could see that surely ?
ForGodsSake
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“she'd spent a long time with her agent off camera talking about it
she had time to compose before she was shown in the DR ,
and even then, she was still going over it all in her head,
you could see that surely ?
”

We all see what we want to see I suppose.

I see a deeply unhappy woman that has never got over being rejected by David Bowie and now she can't ever make that right.

Truly devastating for her.

I hope she's got some support out of the house.
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