I see someone who is always putting on an act, someone who is self serving and someone who craves attention for herself.
I see her later in the house pretending to cry, make a lot of noise, yet no emotion or tears surface.

It's not what I want to see, as someone says above, I study behaviour/psyc, I am very good at objectifying other's behaviour and not projecting my own onto them, which is actually what most people do.
I can tell when people are lying or putting on an act or are not genuine.
I see what is there to see. It's all there in Angies behaviour.

I saw tears rolling down her face !

Well study something else perhaps,because I don't think you are right !

she had a face that was in pain , so your observations of her I think are very incorrect ,

as she said, it is the end of an era.

You suggest she is made of stone and didn't care that Bowie had died.
As she even said, she may not have known him for many years, but she cared
and that's what I saw.

If you study psychology then you should know that people are multi-layered and even people who crave attention have genuine feelings. She wasn't putting on an act on the diary room when she said it would be easier if she could cry, then started to talk about her mother's death and started to cry at that point.

I agree 100%. Well put!

Me too.

I was shocked and had a bit of a cry when I heard about it. I liked him, but wasn't an uber fan or anything. He was a part of my youth and my life. He was far more than that to Angie, estranged though she was.

Not really, I pretty much see things how they are.

I remember years ago, everyone was adoring Oscar Pistorius, I could see through him in that he was a very aggressive person. People didn't believe me, then came his whole bad performance at the London Olympics, people said I may be right. Then of course he kills his girlfriend, not such a great person.

You could be wrong you know.

Assuming you understand everything about people because you've done a course is a bit arrogant don't you think?

Yes people are muti layered, but not all.

With certain personality types there is no other layer and it is all about what serves them best. Sociopaths do not have genuine feelings like the rest of us, this is where people can be misguided in thinking we all have human emotions.
Narcissists process things differently too, so not in the same way people here are describing her feelings.

We may all have different opinions on this, but this is what I see and believe. When she said that in the diary room, it was an act. The whole day was an act.

no I wasn't a HUGE fan,but CHANGES and SORROW were massive to me for their lyrics and I associate those songs with certain people in my life, and I was sad to hear the news he'd died, so young, and still working ,I admired the man as an artist.

Imagine for Angie - she spent best part of her life as a young woman with the man, a rising star, crazy times, outrageous, the fashion, the clubs, the gigs, the parties, they married, they indulged, they had a son, ................so many memories for her, a lot of bad stuff too, but good or bad, this was her past and he was part of it, and she's watched him become so very famous and wealthy from a distance it seems,and he was her only connection to her only son with him, who she was equally estranged from

imagine all that - and then being on CBB and being told by her Agent that that man had died,

Anyone who says she was acting up and didn't really care, is just plain ignorant to the human condition, or has never come across or seen anyone who's eccentric like Angie is, and able to recognise someone who really is so in touch with their own feelings as Angie is, - she's so transparent she couldn't hide that she was affected by Bowie's death.

News of his death conjured up feelings she'd had when her mother died of cancer too , and you could see etched on her face how painful that time was for her and she talked about how she hoped he wasn't in pain I think too

WOW you're wasted on here Sherlock.

I'd have thought MI5 are missing a trick in not having you on their staff.

Do you actually realise how ridiculous you sound?

Perhaps as you progress in your studies you may gain a little more understanding of human psychology.

Okay, just do some reading into Angie and her personality.

If you think you could give birth to a child and abandon it at two weeks for your own selfishness, then abandon him for years and truly believe she has real human emotions, plus all other things people have said over the years, then you must have a lot of leeway with people. To me you abandon a child with no remorse, then something is lacking.

he was a bad loser and he was filmed being verbally aggressive
anyone who saw that could see he was an unsavoury character

but i'm pretty sure anyone who saw that didn't think for a million he'd go on to murder his girlfriend years down the line !

Are you sure you're not confusing Psyches with Psychics ?
just joshing

Again, there are certain conditions that exclude normal human emotions/psychology.

You could be closer to the truth than some folk here realise. I read that she was known for throwing carefully stage-managed tantrums to bend people to her will, confuse a perceived enemy and seduce anyone who takes her fancy. I don't think that last bit about seduction applies at the moment in the BB house.

we're all watching her ,
we don't need to read what she does or did outside the house
you can't keep up an act and persona in BB HOUSE, you should know that, EVERY HM who goes in there will tell you that's impossible,

so everyone's judging her on what we see

Think you need to do some reading about her past - she was on drugs, he won custody of their son, that's it. - she was a mess , he was too , Anything else has been written on the threads about them , so it's all there to read.

None of that means she never had feelings for her son does it.
She has a daughter too (I think) , so she has been able to be a mother luckily for her

will await her jumping on David Gest then

Have you never heard of post partum depression or drug induced psychosis?

Her and David lived a very mad and crazy life - there are all manner of things that can account for her behaviour at that time.

It was a long time ago - as she sat in that chair you could sense that there was all kinds of things going on in her head. There's no doubting that she's a rather odd/strange/eccentric lady but diagnosing someone through seeing a few hours on TV and reading articles written about her by people with some sort of an agenda is just ridiculous.

I've read that she had a problem with drugs at the time. In light of that, and the fact that you seem to have gleaned your information from the pages of the gutter press, your post makes you sound ridiculous.

I cannot stand it when people who *may* have picked up a pop psychology degree in some 3rd rate university pretend to be authorities on things they know absolutely nothing about. We see some of them on the BB panel - every week they wheel out a different "expert" with an opposite view from the last.

Oh Jack, perish the thought.

saying she 'abandoned' her child and felt no remorse
i find rather offensive
you don't know her , you're not personally involved or informed

What I see is a rather vulnerable, guarded, hurt individual who wears her heart on her sleeve

and now at this time in her life takes no nonsense from anyone.

and she probably spent every day for many years regretting whatever happened all those years ago that led to her not having a relationship with her son , don't you ? the pain must have been, and still may be somewhat excrutiating , but she's accepted it perhaps,who knows. I bet she blames herself , which must be torturous.

bit cringey thought really
GET THAT OUT OF MY HEAD
NOW

like.........................
Asparagus lady
remember her ?

utter rubbish

popping in to say to this..............................

(cr*p Penny's on form tonight)

I'm not saying that she wasn't upset, but I just thought that she came across as fake the entire time.