Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Who'd have thought the odd fag could cause so much trouble?”
“Who'd have thought the odd fag could cause so much trouble?”
John Partridge - what a snake
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Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I agree with everything everyone has said here. John is a nasty piece of work. Don't forget he knew well in advance that he was to nominate face to face. He had plenty of time to think about this - about who to nominate and how he was going to word it for maximum effect.”
“I agree with everything everyone has said here. John is a nasty piece of work. Don't forget he knew well in advance that he was to nominate face to face. He had plenty of time to think about this - about who to nominate and how he was going to word it for maximum effect.”
'Ignore him, he's had enough air time'.
I seriously think that this is a possibility. He tried to tell the others in the house that Tiffany was just trying to get air time, and it's as if with this particular nomination he'd know that it would be guaranteed to be a shocking highlight to get him a significant piece of airtime if he capitalised on it.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“If cigarettes keep Darren away from alcohol who's John to say that's wrong?
It's Darren's coping mechanism, what makes John an expert on what's right or wrong for Darren?
Presumably if he didn't have the cigs he'd be more at risk of hitting the bottle.”
“If cigarettes keep Darren away from alcohol who's John to say that's wrong?
It's Darren's coping mechanism, what makes John an expert on what's right or wrong for Darren?
Presumably if he didn't have the cigs he'd be more at risk of hitting the bottle.”
Absolutely. He is also consciously and deliberately undermining Darren's confidence, which is clearly fragile, knowing what the result of this could be, and that is the nastiest aspect of all.
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Absolutely. He is also consciously and deliberately undermining Darren's confidence, which is clearly fragile, knowing what the result of this could be, and that is the nastiest aspect of all.”
“Absolutely. He is also consciously and deliberately undermining Darren's confidence, which is clearly fragile, knowing what the result of this could be, and that is the nastiest aspect of all.”
That's what John does ... undermines the confidence of others
Like when Christopher, who was trying to make himself relevant , as much as he was trying to promote 'peace' in the house, walked in and asked for everyone to listen to what Tiffany had to say
"You're not her b*tch" was John's immediate response
I mean, what a nasty and unnecessary thing to say
Christopher was instantly demeaned and diminished though ... job done
I really wanted to like John but after the way he treated Darren, there's no way.
If that was part of his game plan then it's going to backfire massively and he's sure to be up for nomination next time. He must know that but maybe he's arrogant enough to think he has the support that will keep him in.
If that was part of his game plan then it's going to backfire massively and he's sure to be up for nomination next time. He must know that but maybe he's arrogant enough to think he has the support that will keep him in.
I wonder if he's one of these actors who bullies the runners if they bring him Vimto instead of Ribena.
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“That's what John does ... undermines the confidence of others
Like when Christopher, who was trying to make himself relevant , as much as he was trying to promote 'peace' in the house, walked in and asked for everyone to listen to what Tiffany had to say
"You're not her b*tch" was John's immediate response
I mean, what a nasty and unnecessary thing to say
Christopher was instantly demeaned and diminished though ... job done”
“That's what John does ... undermines the confidence of others
Like when Christopher, who was trying to make himself relevant , as much as he was trying to promote 'peace' in the house, walked in and asked for everyone to listen to what Tiffany had to say
"You're not her b*tch" was John's immediate response
I mean, what a nasty and unnecessary thing to say
Christopher was instantly demeaned and diminished though ... job done”
Yes, he homes in on people's weaknesses and goes for the jugular every time. Cruel and malicious.
I am baffled by the nomination of Darren. I haven't watched a lot of these shows, but from those I've seen, those who progress furthest are those who develop a fun rapport with someone. Eliminating rivals comes later.
I think John actually believes his own bull**** and thought he was doing people a favour. He probably thinks that his conscience wouldn't have allowed him to do anything else. Misguided to say the least. I agree that he needs to stop playing God and being so sanctimonious; and take a step back.
I think John actually believes his own bull**** and thought he was doing people a favour. He probably thinks that his conscience wouldn't have allowed him to do anything else. Misguided to say the least. I agree that he needs to stop playing God and being so sanctimonious; and take a step back.
"I did it to.... I don't.... to.... make you not do it"
Struggling with the lies there John
What a creep.
Struggling with the lies there John
What a creep.
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Absolutely. He is also consciously and deliberately undermining Darren's confidence, which is clearly fragile, knowing what the result of this could be, and that is the nastiest aspect of all.”
“Absolutely. He is also consciously and deliberately undermining Darren's confidence, which is clearly fragile, knowing what the result of this could be, and that is the nastiest aspect of all.”
Seeing as you mention that, wasn't there a scene earlier in the episode where John was complimenting Darren for how well he was doing and what a good guy he was proving himself to be? Which makes me suspect that there was something particularly sadistic about his later nomination of him.
I suspect that John is trying to put unnecessary pressure on Darren by attacking who he sees as a vulnerable guy by trying to take away one of Darren's coping mechanisms (his choice not John's), and now no doubt Darren will feel stressed in the house over using what he thought was going to be some sort of stress relief for him in there. I can see him ending up having to have ciggies on the sly without anyone seeing him in case he feels that they may use it as a reason to nominate against him.
In hindsight Darren should have never had close conversations with John about his life or trusted him, because now John is using Darren's history against him as a weapon.
Really Darren HAS TO nominate John all the time now. But I fear that he won't because I think that he really wants to believe that John is his friend and really wants to see the good in him. I don't think Darren is weak but I do think that he has misplaced trust in John and is clinging to him because he hasn't appeared to have become close with anyone else yet. Right now I think he'd struggle a bit if he didn't feel as close to John. Part of that will be because of the proximity of their ages and having more things in common than with many of the other housemates.
It's quite something that John has got the house rallying against Tiffany to get her out, but what John has done in there appears to be so much more nasty and malicious against various people than anyone else in there has done.
I saw him in last night's episode doing the undermining someone's confidence routine with Tiffany in the garden when she was in her puppet suit. He was being so condescending and speaking to her as if she was so far beneath him she was practically his pet. Some of the language and words he used to her belied the image he was trying to put across that he was genuinely being supportive.
It felt really odd, like he was trying to teach civilization to....well I better be careful what I say. Let's just say it was like watching Henry Higgins teach etiquette lessons to Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. It was slightly uncomfortable, put it that way.
Can't stand Johnny - he thinks he's got it all sorted in life and clearly sees himself as the only person equipped or qualified to guide and advise housemates on the right road to take. Can't stand him and just don't get me started on his arrogance in saying 'SHE,S GOT TO GO' re Tiffany. Who does he think he is!! He needs to be brought down a peg or two.
Originally Posted by lamby:
“He's in the Chicago play, bet ATG are not happy, bet sales slump!”
“He's in the Chicago play, bet ATG are not happy, bet sales slump!”
We were going to book tickets for Chicago until we realised that John was starring. This was before Big Brother - just can't stand the man.
Since found out that Sam Bailey (!) is playing Mama Morton so I think we dodged a bullet there!
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Seeing as you mention that, wasn't there a scene earlier in the episode where John was complimenting Darren for how well he was doing and what a good guy he was proving himself to be? Which makes me suspect that there was something particularly sadistic about his later nomination of him.
I suspect that John is trying to put unnecessary pressure on Darren by attacking who he sees as a vulnerable gudy by trying to take away one of Darren's coping mechanisms (his choice not John's), and now no doubt Darren will feel stressed in the house over using what he thought was going to be some sort of stress relief for him in there. I can see him ending up having to have ciggies on the sly without anyone seeing him in case he feels that they may use it as a reason to nominate against him.
In hindsight Darren should have never had close conversations with John about his life or trusted him, because now John is using Darren's history against him as a weapon.
Really Darren HAS TO nominate John all the time now. But I fear that he won't because I think that he really wants to believe that John is his friend and really wants to see the good in him. I don't think Darren is weak but I do think that he has misplaced trust in John and is clinging to him because he hasn't appeared to have become close with anyone else yet. Right now I think he'd struggle a bit if he didn't feel as close to John. Part of that will be because of the proximity of their ages and having more things in common than with many of the other housemates.
It's quite something that John has got the house rallying against Tiffany to get her out, but what John has done in there appears to be so much more nasty and malicious against various people than anyone else in there has done.
I saw him in last night's episode doing the undermining someone's confidence routine with Tiffany in the garden when she was in her puppet suit. He was being so condescending and speaking to her as if she was so far beneath him she was practically his pet. Some of the language and words he used to her belied the image he was trying to put across that he was genuinely being supportive.
It felt really odd, like he was trying to teach civilization to....well I better be careful what I say. Let's just say it was like watching Henry Higgins teach etiquette lessons to Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. It was slightly uncomfortable, put it that way.”
“Seeing as you mention that, wasn't there a scene earlier in the episode where John was complimenting Darren for how well he was doing and what a good guy he was proving himself to be? Which makes me suspect that there was something particularly sadistic about his later nomination of him.
I suspect that John is trying to put unnecessary pressure on Darren by attacking who he sees as a vulnerable gudy by trying to take away one of Darren's coping mechanisms (his choice not John's), and now no doubt Darren will feel stressed in the house over using what he thought was going to be some sort of stress relief for him in there. I can see him ending up having to have ciggies on the sly without anyone seeing him in case he feels that they may use it as a reason to nominate against him.
In hindsight Darren should have never had close conversations with John about his life or trusted him, because now John is using Darren's history against him as a weapon.
Really Darren HAS TO nominate John all the time now. But I fear that he won't because I think that he really wants to believe that John is his friend and really wants to see the good in him. I don't think Darren is weak but I do think that he has misplaced trust in John and is clinging to him because he hasn't appeared to have become close with anyone else yet. Right now I think he'd struggle a bit if he didn't feel as close to John. Part of that will be because of the proximity of their ages and having more things in common than with many of the other housemates.
It's quite something that John has got the house rallying against Tiffany to get her out, but what John has done in there appears to be so much more nasty and malicious against various people than anyone else in there has done.
I saw him in last night's episode doing the undermining someone's confidence routine with Tiffany in the garden when she was in her puppet suit. He was being so condescending and speaking to her as if she was so far beneath him she was practically his pet. Some of the language and words he used to her belied the image he was trying to put across that he was genuinely being supportive.
It felt really odd, like he was trying to teach civilization to....well I better be careful what I say. Let's just say it was like watching Henry Higgins teach etiquette lessons to Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. It was slightly uncomfortable, put it that way.”
That made me uncomfortable too. I liked John when he went in. I could understand him being angry at Tiffany after her freak out, as she still refused to apologise after she found out she had made a mistake, and we don't know what happened in that 41 minutes between the first freak out and people telling her they didn't want her in the house.
He had no right to tell her to go though.
However the nomination of Darren was a stab in the back. He had no right to criticise whether the guy smoked or not.And the nomination of Angie, after he was supposed to be her friend. She stated she wanted to avoid the press, he knew that, and put her up for eviction anyway.
Seriously disliking him now.Shame he was one of my favourites.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Seeing as you mention that, wasn't there a scene earlier in the episode where John was complimenting Darren for how well he was doing and what a good guy he was proving himself to be? Which makes me suspect that there was something particularly sadistic about his later nomination of him.
I suspect that John is trying to put unnecessary pressure on Darren by attacking who he sees as a vulnerable guy by trying to take away one of Darren's coping mechanisms (his choice not John's), and now no doubt Darren will feel stressed in the house over using what he thought was going to be some sort of stress relief for him in there. I can see him ending up having to have ciggies on the sly without anyone seeing him in case he feels that they may use it as a reason to nominate against him.
In hindsight Darren should have never had close conversations with John about his life or trusted him, because now John is using Darren's history against him as a weapon.
Really Darren HAS TO nominate John all the time now. But I fear that he won't because I think that he really wants to believe that John is his friend and really wants to see the good in him. I don't think Darren is weak but I do think that he has misplaced trust in John and is clinging to him because he hasn't appeared to have become close with anyone else yet. Right now I think he'd struggle a bit if he didn't feel as close to John. Part of that will be because of the proximity of their ages and having more things in common than with many of the other housemates.
It's quite something that John has got the house rallying against Tiffany to get her out, but what John has done in there appears to be so much more nasty and malicious against various people than anyone else in there has done.
I saw him in last night's episode doing the undermining someone's confidence routine with Tiffany in the garden when she was in her puppet suit. He was being so condescending and speaking to her as if she was so far beneath him she was practically his pet. Some of the language and words he used to her belied the image he was trying to put across that he was genuinely being supportive.
It felt really odd, like he was trying to teach civilization to....well I better be careful what I say. Let's just say it was like watching Henry Higgins teach etiquette lessons to Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. It was slightly uncomfortable, put it that way.”
“Seeing as you mention that, wasn't there a scene earlier in the episode where John was complimenting Darren for how well he was doing and what a good guy he was proving himself to be? Which makes me suspect that there was something particularly sadistic about his later nomination of him.
I suspect that John is trying to put unnecessary pressure on Darren by attacking who he sees as a vulnerable guy by trying to take away one of Darren's coping mechanisms (his choice not John's), and now no doubt Darren will feel stressed in the house over using what he thought was going to be some sort of stress relief for him in there. I can see him ending up having to have ciggies on the sly without anyone seeing him in case he feels that they may use it as a reason to nominate against him.
In hindsight Darren should have never had close conversations with John about his life or trusted him, because now John is using Darren's history against him as a weapon.
Really Darren HAS TO nominate John all the time now. But I fear that he won't because I think that he really wants to believe that John is his friend and really wants to see the good in him. I don't think Darren is weak but I do think that he has misplaced trust in John and is clinging to him because he hasn't appeared to have become close with anyone else yet. Right now I think he'd struggle a bit if he didn't feel as close to John. Part of that will be because of the proximity of their ages and having more things in common than with many of the other housemates.
It's quite something that John has got the house rallying against Tiffany to get her out, but what John has done in there appears to be so much more nasty and malicious against various people than anyone else in there has done.
I saw him in last night's episode doing the undermining someone's confidence routine with Tiffany in the garden when she was in her puppet suit. He was being so condescending and speaking to her as if she was so far beneath him she was practically his pet. Some of the language and words he used to her belied the image he was trying to put across that he was genuinely being supportive.
It felt really odd, like he was trying to teach civilization to....well I better be careful what I say. Let's just say it was like watching Henry Higgins teach etiquette lessons to Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. It was slightly uncomfortable, put it that way.”
Yes, spot -on.
Someone else done this is another bb series, saying that they nominated someone as a wake up call and for their own good. Think it was last year. Think they took it badly too. Can't remember who it was now?!
I wonder how he will take the boo's from the crowd on Friday. It will be interesting to see how his game plan pans out.
Originally Posted by lamby:
“He's in the Chicago play, bet ATG are not happy, bet sales slump!”
“He's in the Chicago play, bet ATG are not happy, bet sales slump!”
They should replace him with Darren Day
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“If cigarettes keep Darren away from alcohol who's John to say that's wrong?
It's Darren's coping mechanism, what makes John an expert on what's right or wrong for Darren?
Presumably if he didn't have the cigs he'd be more at risk of hitting the bottle.”
“If cigarettes keep Darren away from alcohol who's John to say that's wrong?
It's Darren's coping mechanism, what makes John an expert on what's right or wrong for Darren?
Presumably if he didn't have the cigs he'd be more at risk of hitting the bottle.”
Absolutely.
Anyone near Darren would rather he had a few fags than a line of coke. John isa seriously nasty, manipulative person.
Originally Posted by 2la:
“As he delivered that nomination he had a vile smirk on his face. He definitely sees Darren as competition. I can't effing stand him. When are they gonna wise up to him?”
“As he delivered that nomination he had a vile smirk on his face. He definitely sees Darren as competition. I can't effing stand him. When are they gonna wise up to him?”
Hope Darren votes for John this week. When Darren was saying he was sorry and gave John a kiss....for a split second John had a look of disgust on his face..Darren could say for him reason...Im nominating John cos he looks a dick in that purple dressing he keeps swanning around in
Originally Posted by steff0202:
“I can guarantee that if Darren wins, which is a distinct possibility, John will be all over him like a rash!”
“I can guarantee that if Darren wins, which is a distinct possibility, John will be all over him like a rash!”
oh dear lets hope not poor Darren..
Originally Posted by juliancarswell:
“I dont know much about him other than he has a bit of a bad rep with the public, a bit like Anthea Turner.
What did he do to get this? He comes across as a nice enough guy on this show.”
“I dont know much about him other than he has a bit of a bad rep with the public, a bit like Anthea Turner.
What did he do to get this? He comes across as a nice enough guy on this show.”
He went through a period of being in the tabloids A LOT for his "love rat" antics.
This sums it up
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ing-girth.html
I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.
Originally Posted by Jinnyjoe1:
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it uncomfortable viewing.
Originally Posted by Jinnyjoe1:
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
This along with Gemma's condescending lecture were indeed disturbing.
Its pointless having the same old conversation over again, but giving someone a "You need to buck your ideas up" speech over a misunderstanding is uncalled for, and neither of the two self important pricks (John and Gemma) did themselves any favours there.
I sincerely hope Tiffany can actually see it for what it is, and that her meekness while being lectured was out of nothing more embarrassment and damage limitation.
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