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John Partridge - what a snake
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Originally Posted by Jinnyjoe1:
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
I found that uncomfortable to watch. I found it extremely patronising when he asked her about her 'anger issues' and said to her "It must be very lonely being like that" or words to that effect. I could see how she was basically being told off by this jerk who quite obviously thinks he has no flaws of his own, seeing as he's very quick to point out everybody else's flaws in the house whilst he swans around with that hateful sneer of his. I don't think he likes sharing the lime light with other people too much.
I can't get over how he threw Darren under a bus like that either! Knowing how Darren is in the house to try and change people's perception of him being an addict.... and John comes out with something like that, over cigarettes! Jeeze, who needs a mate like that! Very very snide indeed!
When he asked Tiff if it was 'lonely' being angry, I wish she could have said 'it's probably about as lonely as it is where you are on your high horse'
Well, I was expecting to like him when he went in the house, but now I just want to shout GET JOHN OUT!
Originally Posted by Stardust365:
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I can't get over how he threw Darren under a bus like that either! Knowing how Darren is in the house to try and change people's perception of him being an addict.... and John comes out with something like that, over cigarettes! Jeeze, who needs a mate like that! Very very snide indeed!
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I can't get over how he threw Darren under a bus like that either! Knowing how Darren is in the house to try and change people's perception of him being an addict.... and John comes out with something like that, over cigarettes! Jeeze, who needs a mate like that! Very very snide indeed!
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John isn't just threatened by Darren in the CBB house but professionally as well.
Darren and John are similar ages and if Darren gets his act together and is rehabilitated in the publics eye he could quite easily get roles John goes for too. Billy Flynn a prime example.
He was also out of order because I think the day the housemates had had was a rather exceptional one. If Darren needed a cigarette or 30 to help him out, I don't see an issue there. Better than the alternative.
I might be looking too deep into this but it was a very definite dig/reminder about Darren's past issues not just a 'I don't think he's happy here' type of remark.
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“He is passive aggressive, and always twists it back round so that people think they are wrong and he is right, the way he talked to Daren was like a controlling husband putting down his beaten down wife.”
“He is passive aggressive, and always twists it back round so that people think they are wrong and he is right, the way he talked to Daren was like a controlling husband putting down his beaten down wife.”
Originally Posted by Jinnyjoe1:
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
“I found the scene with John and Tiffany in the garden quite disturbing. Tiffany was very submissive and cowed by John's "advice". He was very demeaning to her. Creepy creepy guy.”
Does anyone see the similarity between John and Nasty Nick from Series 1?
Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“I might be looking too deep into this but it was a very definite dig/reminder about Darren's past issues not just a 'I don't think he's happy here' type of remark.”
“I might be looking too deep into this but it was a very definite dig/reminder about Darren's past issues not just a 'I don't think he's happy here' type of remark.”
Those were my thoughts exactly! And you're quite right, Darren IS competition for him more so on the outside than in. He could quite easily pick up the same rolls that John goes for. The weird things is, I really expected to dislike Darren Day in the house and actually like John Partridge, but I just can't bear JP anymore yet I can actually tolerate DD. John now reminds me slightly of a thin male version of Tina Malone when she was in there lol. A bit of a know it all 'I'm an actorrr don't you know' type
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No matter Darrens softer demeanor he wont forget this. and no wonder.. this is a man whos turned his life around by getting off drugs and booze and people were liking and getting on with him... until rentamouth had to remind them of his failings ..... Darrens eyes near popped out his head and he jumped in to say it was only ciggies and nothing else.. probably as not to let his family down or harm his career.... this idiot Partridge only cares about no 1 and lets nothing stand in his way...
Originally Posted by UrsaMajoR:
“He went through a period of being in the tabloids A LOT for his "love rat" antics.
This sums it up
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ing-girth.html”
“He went through a period of being in the tabloids A LOT for his "love rat" antics.
This sums it up
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ing-girth.html”
Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
Most blokes I know who behaved like Darren when younger have settled down now and sorted themselves out, people can change.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
Completely agree esp bits in bold
There's no denying Darren Day had a bit of a shady past but he really does seem to have got his act & life together so, much as I neither like or dislike him, fair play to him for turning things around.
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“Completely agree esp bits in bold
There's know denying Darren Day had a bit of a shady past but he really does seem to have got his act & life together so, much as I neither like or dislike him, fair play to him for turning things around.”
“Completely agree esp bits in bold
There's know denying Darren Day had a bit of a shady past but he really does seem to have got his act & life together so, much as I neither like or dislike him, fair play to him for turning things around.”
Darren gives full credit to his lovely wife for helping him get through it all.
You'd wonder why John didn't nominate Daniella for the same reasons.....
Would it be because he knows she wouldn't take such crap? He knows Darren is a soft touch and he's easier to manipulate than Daniella; and make no mistake, what he did last night was manipulation, pure and simple.
I think he's despicable.
Would it be because he knows she wouldn't take such crap? He knows Darren is a soft touch and he's easier to manipulate than Daniella; and make no mistake, what he did last night was manipulation, pure and simple.
I think he's despicable.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“No matter Darrens softer demeanor he wont forget this. and no wonder.. this is a man whos turned his life around by getting off drugs and booze and people were liking and getting on with him... until rentamouth had to remind them of his failings ..... Darrens eyes near popped out his head and he jumped in to say it was only ciggies and nothing else.. probably as not to let his family down or harm his career.... this idiot Partridge only cares about no 1 and lets nothing stand in his way...”
“No matter Darrens softer demeanor he wont forget this. and no wonder.. this is a man whos turned his life around by getting off drugs and booze and people were liking and getting on with him... until rentamouth had to remind them of his failings ..... Darrens eyes near popped out his head and he jumped in to say it was only ciggies and nothing else.. probably as not to let his family down or harm his career.... this idiot Partridge only cares about no 1 and lets nothing stand in his way...”
Just my opinion but I believe if Darren hadn't jumped in & said it was only cigarettes, JP would have, without actually saying it, kept on implying that it was leading to something far more serious than a crafty fag.
I don't mind game players but sanctimonious Saint John has crossed the line in his desperation to win. The only consolation is, his snide, sly plan looks as if it's is going to spectacularly backfire.
In normal everyday circumstances, someone like John is soon sussed out. Unfortunately, in an atmosphere like the BB house where most people start off feeling vulnerable, his faux concern and enveloping love for all, can seem like a lifeline. However, I imagine most of the housemates saw a bit of the real John after his pontificating about Darren. Especially as Darren didn't, quite rightly, let it go right away.
What Darren has achieved is absolutely monumental, and if mentioned at all, should be lauded. A recovering addict will forever feel fragile and vulnerable. They have been to hell and know that they are only one drink/fix away, at all times. To play on those vulnerabilities is emotionally abusive.
I hope that Darren can take the attitude of F*ck you mate, I'll show you! He can do this best by distancing himself from John, but I fear he may still see him as a friend.....which he absolutely isn't. He's a conniving, manipulative narcissist.
What Darren has achieved is absolutely monumental, and if mentioned at all, should be lauded. A recovering addict will forever feel fragile and vulnerable. They have been to hell and know that they are only one drink/fix away, at all times. To play on those vulnerabilities is emotionally abusive.
I hope that Darren can take the attitude of F*ck you mate, I'll show you! He can do this best by distancing himself from John, but I fear he may still see him as a friend.....which he absolutely isn't. He's a conniving, manipulative narcissist.
Originally Posted by cate o connor:
“In normal everyday circumstances, someone like John is soon sussed out. Unfortunately, in an atmosphere like the BB house where most people start off feeling vulnerable, his faux concern and enveloping love for all, can seem like a lifeline. However, I imagine most of the housemates saw a bit of the real John after his pontificating about Darren. Especially as Darren didn't, quite rightly, let it go right away.
What Darren has achieved is absolutely monumental, and if mentioned at all, should be lauded. A recovering addict will forever feel fragile and vulnerable. They have been to hell and know that they are only one drink/fix away, at all times. To play on those vulnerabilities is emotionally abusive.
I hope that Darren can take the attitude of F*ck you mate, I'll show you! He can do this best by distancing himself from John, but I fear he may still see him as a friend.....which he absolutely isn't. He's a conniving, manipulative narcissist.”
“In normal everyday circumstances, someone like John is soon sussed out. Unfortunately, in an atmosphere like the BB house where most people start off feeling vulnerable, his faux concern and enveloping love for all, can seem like a lifeline. However, I imagine most of the housemates saw a bit of the real John after his pontificating about Darren. Especially as Darren didn't, quite rightly, let it go right away.
What Darren has achieved is absolutely monumental, and if mentioned at all, should be lauded. A recovering addict will forever feel fragile and vulnerable. They have been to hell and know that they are only one drink/fix away, at all times. To play on those vulnerabilities is emotionally abusive.
I hope that Darren can take the attitude of F*ck you mate, I'll show you! He can do this best by distancing himself from John, but I fear he may still see him as a friend.....which he absolutely isn't. He's a conniving, manipulative narcissist.”
completely agree with your post.. its all backfired on John.. he took the man down in a terrible way and Darren must have been really worried in case his wife thought he d done much worse than a fag..you could see the panic and shock in his face.... Wrong on so many levels John.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“completely agree with your post.. its all backfired on John.. he took the man down in a terrible way and Darren must have been really worried in case his wife thought he d done much worse than a fag..you could see the panic and shock in his face.... Wrong on so many levels John.”
“completely agree with your post.. its all backfired on John.. he took the man down in a terrible way and Darren must have been really worried in case his wife thought he d done much worse than a fag..you could see the panic and shock in his face.... Wrong on so many levels John.”
Darren was genuinely shocked I think . I thought he did well to stop John in his tracks and speak up and tell it like it is . John was bringing him down and Darren made sure he didnt
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
“Isn't there a point where you give someone a chance? That was quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure that Darren is necessarily seen as desirable as he may once have been.
I know that some believe that people never change, but I'd like to think that people aren't judged for the rest of their life on theor previous misdemeanours if they genuinely do want to change who they are, or were.”
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Darren gives full credit to his lovely wife for helping him get through it all.”
“Darren gives full credit to his lovely wife for helping him get through it all.”
Darren has been out of the public eye and trouble for quite a number of years now. I think there was a relapse in 2008 but he does seem to have sorted himself out.
Hopefully he can get his career back to some degree.
Remember when John and Darren was in the other room. They were talking and John said at first he was going to be all nice to everyone ...then turn round and basically fist them......I dont suppose Darren thought he meant him.
Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog:
“You'd wonder why John didn't nominate Daniella for the same reasons.....
Would it be because he knows she wouldn't take such crap? He knows Darren is a soft touch and he's easier to manipulate than Daniella; and make no mistake, what he did last night was manipulation, pure and simple.
I think he's despicable.”
“You'd wonder why John didn't nominate Daniella for the same reasons.....
Would it be because he knows she wouldn't take such crap? He knows Darren is a soft touch and he's easier to manipulate than Daniella; and make no mistake, what he did last night was manipulation, pure and simple.
I think he's despicable.”
BIB - Yes, that and the fact that he doesn't see Daniella as a threat, as he does Darren. And he's right about Darren - he is a threat to John, not only in CBB but in real life, as others have pointed out. And let's face it, Darren is a far better singer.
Originally Posted by Honestweegie:
“I cant understand why the cast of Eastenders speak so highly of him, he must be a mare to work with”
“I cant understand why the cast of Eastenders speak so highly of him, he must be a mare to work with”
The woman who played his mother in law said she was surprised he did that to Darren, I don't suppose they can really slag each other off if there's a chance they may have to work together again.
Originally Posted by Lilylilac:
“The woman who played his mother in law said she was surprised he did that to Darren, I don't suppose they can really slag each other off if there's a chance they may have to work together again.”
“The woman who played his mother in law said she was surprised he did that to Darren, I don't suppose they can really slag each other off if there's a chance they may have to work together again.”
It wouldn't stop me if I disliked someone, no amount of gagging could stop me from being truthful
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