So basically your still addicted to nicotine... But for 25 years you haven't actually done yourself any physical harm. I don't think that's embarrassing,

Darren has been falling out of line recently, the nomination was just a quick public humiliation to bring him back to heel

Where on earth did you get that from?

Quite correct, utter and total nonsense

It is, if you go to an AA meeting or NA you will find dozens of successfully recovering addicts smoking away quite happily.

Darren is nicer than John, so he's targeted him to try to get him to react badly.
This is because johns fears Darren is his competition.

If Darren wasn't smoking before coming in to the house, then where is he getting the cigarettes from? Maybe it is more to do with John being worried that he will run out and not being able to feed his own nicotine monster.

Agreed. If he was really concerned he'd have told him to his face and tried to support him about cutting down.

But no, nominate him to his face which will make him angry, stressed and maybe even paranoid about who he can trust in there which will probably make him smoke more.

Of course you was thinking of him John. What a true friend.

When some of the smokers were banned from smoking until the task was over Darren says something like " Please don't take that away, it's all I've got".... If I wasn't so cynical I might think John thought this would be a great opportunity to break him.

Darren made a good point in the DR about why didn't John take him aside privately and speak with him if he genuinely cared about him rather than putting him on the spot openly which would most likely be aired on TV on top of nominating his supposed friend.

Can't stand John, reminding me of a Game of Thrones villain.

They are two separate entities, believe me. x

Rubbish.. not what your meaning but what Johns intention was, not getting at you ..... He saw Darren as a threat in there to him winning.. and wants him out.. How could he have taken the man down like that on the show .... Darren was devastated, as hes cleaned up his act now and big mouth is letting the world and Darrens family know hes a failure, John doesnt care about anyone but John..

I liked John when he was in Enders and 'a friend of the show' but I've gone right off the sanctimonious twit. He's done himself no favours. x

If I were to go out with a mate and go to a restaurant and then announced loudly to everyone in the restaurant that I don't think she should eat anything as she is getting too fat, that would be an absolutely appalling thing to do, if I really cared about her I would have suggested skipping the meal before we got into the restaurant and had an audience so I could humiliate her.

or 3

how dare he humiliate anyone ,hasnt he done enough in there without taking Darren down publicly, John sees himsefl as this wonderful wise man who knows F all.

John is a sanctimonious, supercilious ass who only sought to "check" his competition It was a power play. I want Darren to out place him, but we can't be rid of John yet. He does must of the stirring in the house.

Dont you know...Johns perfect, a perfect speciman of a man who doesnt do addiction... maybe thats why he wears his pretty pink hat....to hold his halo in place.

There are 'likeable' villains in the house sometimes but John is just evil selfish... and a coward.

He says things like "we know what was said" when he wasn't there and "they want you out" when he was the one to say it. Even about Winston, what he said in the diary room was reasonably fair but when he realised he had most of the house his words were vile.

So far he has destroyed Winston, tried to destroy Tiffany and Darren... who's next? For me it was good to hear that he doesn't have 100% backing from the housemates.

Unfortunately with vote to save he'll probably be around for a bit yet.

Yep hes picking them off slow but sure.... what hes did to Darren though is horrible to watch as the man thought they were best mates.., he could have mentioned to him about his smoking, clearly he held back for the most impact to put him forward for eviction, a lowlife coward and Pink Narcissus.

John did become oddly teary eyed and emotional when they reconciled though - he's either using his acting skills there or genuinely thought, in his arrogant mind, that it was the right thing to do initially. Bizarre train of thought if so though. Nominating your own mate over others you barely connect with or dislike? Don't really get it.

I just caught up with the episode and I agree with you. When John was talking to Darren I thought It was like watching him in Eastenders 🙄

He's going for the James v Austen thing and look who won that. Still, voting out your mate over a vice like smoking is indefensible.

john is the typcial narcissistic who feels threatened if others dont listen to him or dare to disagree... they like others to hang on to their coatails and not think for themselves.. they only want to hear their own voice and disregard any others opinions.. A narcissist is always right and has the urge to make you feel less than him, does this sum John up. Narcissism is a less extreme version of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Narcissism involves cockiness, manipulativeness, selfishness, power motives, and vanity-a love of mirrors.

Neither have I. I believe Darren when he said he can have some cigarettes and then not have them, he has control over it and knows he can manage it. With the alcohol he knows his judgement and control will falter.

I do too but he was very upset and angry over Johns comments and just hope this doesnt cause him to slide , would be right into Johns barrow..

I disagree. Nicotine is one of most addictive drugs there is and once it is in system it will be just as hard (or harder) to quit 2nd time round. I am an ex smoker and bottle of wine a night girl and the smoking was much harder to quit . I have no personal experience to class A drugs only research again says nicotine more addictive