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I didn't know John was a carer for his mum
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Reality Sucks
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“I didn't say they said he was evil, I said judging by all the posts that would be a reasonable conclusion to make. He's getting an awful lot of hate.”

He's not a very nice guy, that's why. He seems to think he's the font of all knowledge. He's told 3 people they should leave the house 'for their own good' including his 'good friend' Darren. Couldn't be find someone that he liked less than Darren to nominate?
Bless You
14-01-2016
I'm finding some people's hatred of John very simplistic.
duckylucky
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“You missed the point. These anti John threads and posts have gone way OTT, anyone who hadn't watched the show would indeed think he was evil.”

Well your post is way OTT as well . No one said anything about evil or jail till you did
FunboyFandango
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Well your post is way OTT as well . No one said anything about evil or jail till you did”

fgs it's not a direct quote. It's deliberately OTT to highlight the OTT criticism he's getting.
fleet
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“That's what I was thinking. If he's her sole carer, who's looking after her while he's in the house?”

Hes not her carer, shes in a home. Hes using his fee to finance the home she in.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebri...zheimers-care/
duckylucky
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“fgs it's not a direct quote. It's deliberately OTT to highlight the OTT criticism he's getting.”

Fgs an OTT remark about OTT remarks wont win an argument IMO . Its simply tit for tat and makes very little impact . You cant whinge about OTT remarks by being OTT.
PorkchopExpress
14-01-2016
John fans in desperate rebrand/rehabilitation alert!
Lilylilac
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bless You:
“I'm finding some people's hatred of John very simplistic.”

It's not hatred, that's a silly word to use, I just think the bloke is a complete arsewipe.
duckylucky
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lilylilac:
“It's not hatred, that's a silly word to use, I just think the bloke is a complete arsewipe.”

I dont hate him either . Just think he is a patronising arse
calamity
14-01-2016
John has let himself down badly but seems to think hes doing great in the house.... he took over right off when it was the boxes that someone was to go inside.... He rushed in like a white knight offering himself for the task and silencing BB who must have thought... OH NO this isnt how its to be.... then when he had to pick someone to go in with him Darren volunteered mucking it all up more.. this was the start of John taking over..
viva.espana
14-01-2016
Know nothing of him prior to CBB but he's a good HM. I didn't like his approach to Tiffany but quite like his general gameplaying and his 'evil' undercurrent.

He's way more interesting to watch than any of the personality-free RTV dregs in there.
cjandrews
14-01-2016
I'm not going to judge him as a person and his outside actions, I'm going to judge him inside the House as a housemate and at the moment I dislike him immensely.
BabelBrook
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Know nothing of him prior to CBB but he's a good HM. I didn't like his approach to Tiffany but quite like his general gameplaying and his 'evil' undercurrent.

He's way more interesting to watch than any of the personality-free RTV dregs in there.”

I've never been a JP fan but it would be a poorer house without him. At least he brings some personality (like it or not) whereas the majority are simply bland.
Penny Crayon
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by calamity:
“he should ask a full time carer when and if they get any time off and can they go into BB and go on tour with a show... I know what their answer would be and Id be angry if I was one... a difficult job that takes up their lives. behave john...”

Yeah - he's obviously just left her at home with no one at all to care for her while he just enjoys himself.

You wouldn't consider the possibility that he has been her carer since leaving EE but is is the fortunate position of being able to pay for a bit of help or call on family members?

Apparently she's in a care home now which I believe John is paying for out of his fee,

What do you mean by behave exactly? It's not his fault he's a little more fortunate than a lot of carers. Caring for a loved one with Alzheimers isn't a picnic for anyone.

Now you behave.
Bless You
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lilylilac:
“It's not hatred, that's a silly word to use, I just think the bloke is a complete arsewipe.”

Well, I'm going to disagree.

It might be silly to you but I've read some OTT comments here about the bloke to make me feel justified by my original comment,

That's all.
calamity
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Yeah - he's obviously just left her at home with no one at all to care for her while he just enjoys himself.

You wouldn't consider the possibility that he has been her carer since leaving EE but is is the fortunate position of being able to pay for a bit of help or call on family members?

Apparently she's in a care home now which I believe John is paying for out of his fee,

What do you mean by behave exactly? It's not his fault he's a little more fortunate than a lot of carers. Caring for a loved one with Alzheimers isn't a picnic for anyone.

Now you behave.”

I didnt pick on anyone in here , I said John behave... so please dont pick on me... He has always worked as far as I know so how did he get time to care for her... when real carers get hardly a moment to themselves.
Penny Crayon
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by calamity:
“I didnt pick on anyone in here , I said John behave... so please dont pick on me... He has always worked as far as I know so how did he get time to care for her... when real carers get hardly a moment to themselves.”


what's a 'real carer'? He probably took responsibilty for organising the care and did the caring when not working and then either paid for help or had family step in.

Why sneer at someone or insinuate they are lying just beacause they're not caring 24/7?
calamity
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“what's a 'real carer'? He probably took responsibilty for organising the care and did the caring when not working and then either paid for help or had family step in.

Why sneer at someone or insinuate they are lying just beacause they're not caring 24/7?”

I thought John was in work all the time... of course I could be wrong....I had read though that he was her primary carer....
Lilylilac
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bless You:
“Well, I'm going to disagree.

It might be silly to you but I've read some OTT comments here about the bloke to make me feel justified by my original comment,

That's all.”

Of course it's not hate, how can anyone hate someone on a bloody telly show,? we'll have all forgotten about all of them in a couple of weeks time, that's not hate, it's temporary annoyance.
calamity
14-01-2016
John being a well liked actor and dancer could have scooshed this if he d behaved differently in there.. but he took over straight off being the head cook and bottle washer, and telling others what to do and who should be put out the house... His power grew when the others turned on Winston.. you could actually see him acting up and loving the love..
Penny Crayon
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by calamity:
“John being a well liked actor and dancer could have scooshed this if he d behaved differently in there.. but he took over straight off being the head cook and bottle washer, and telling others what to do and who should be put out the house... His power grew when the others turned on Winston.. you could actually see him acting up and loving the love..”

But then he'd have been accused of being fake. I think the John we're seeing is the true John - he's a bit bossy - likes to take over - a tad full of himself but also funny and caring.

That's who he is - he's nowhere near as bad as he's being painted. He's just John - and I like him.
calamity
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“But then he'd have been accused of being fake. I think the John we're seeing is the true John - he's a bit bossy - likes to take over - a tad full of himself but also funny and caring.

That's who he is - he's nowhere near as bad as he's being painted. He's just John - and I like him.”

can see you do penny,nothing wrong with that liked him a lot too before the show.
Angie_Plasty
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Know nothing of him prior to CBB but he's a good HM. I didn't like his approach to Tiffany but quite like his general gameplaying and his 'evil' undercurrent.

He's way more interesting to watch than any of the personality-free RTV dregs in there.”

That's how I see it. He's a good HM, involved in the action and trying to win. I like gameplayers and if they've got big egos, even better. I don't know why he thinks being big daddy or the group spokesman or nomming his mate is anything other than a recipe for disaster, but it's fun to watch. He's earning his fee and not wasting my time.
exodus2u
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lily Darling:
“John's mum's in a nursing home OP and he'll get his fee anyway, win or not.”

Even his fans are manipulative
Rain
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by exodus2u:
“Even his fans are manipulative”

I never read that he left EE to be a full time carer and could not return full time. I remember reading that Marc quit and producers felt Christian should leave alongside Syed after all they had been through and John agreed with them for their happy ending
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