John was the one that FACED Tiffany and told her people thought she should go

And when they sorted it, he didn't gush or make out it wasn't her fault either

Tiffany has immunity from the next eviction so they couldn't nominate her.

Was she right I was a bit confused with what she said. She seemed as annoyed about everyone not standing up to John which is up to them whether they feel the need and that he was a liar which I wasn't aware of. Most of all though she seemed to assume that Tiff laughing at her over the top drunken antics meant that she was sticking up for John.

Whatever, I love the way most of the House and people on here are all tolerant about Megan's violent outburst and yet agree with the likes of Kristina that Tiff is to be feared when she gets all angry

I watched it twice and I still didn't understand what on earth she was ranting about.

She was dead right.

I always say some people do not have the chemistry for alcohol...

She has celiac so alcohol never going to be great for her.

But she is dead right.

Yes and lied in the process and said he didn't think she should go and she should do what's right for her. He's a snake, he's the one who brought up Tiffany leaving to everyone else yet to her face he pretends that it's everyone else, not him.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day
BUT. Megan is a horrible spoiled rude nasty girl.
It's nothing to do with her condition, it's to do with her being an ignorant brat.
I really don't like John either, but I am not sufficiently morally bankrupt to defend or support Megan just because she is giving John a dressing down.
Her behaviour is indefensible

Exactly!

No Megan was not right about John. John did not make her or anybody else feel under pressure. He didn't force anybody to go along with any opinion he expressed about Tiffany. Megan, Gemma and the other housemates could have disagreed with him if they wanted to. John thinks for himself, whereas Megan and others go with the flow. When the tide was against Angie they were against Angie. When it turned against Tiffany they were against Tiffany. The problem isn't John, but the desire of other housemates to be popular with the audience and gain more fans.

How was it a earful of the truth, when just about all the housemates wanted Tiffany gone because they were frightened of her. I think John is being used as a scapegoat here!

Exactly this, Gemma is a shit stirrer and made Megan even worst rather than try to calm her down like others did! The biggest game player is Gemma Collins

What I dont understand is why they were frightened of Tiffany but not Megan?

It's an odd situation on this forum when people will defend the behaviour of Megan just because she opposes somebody they don't like, in this case, John.

I can't abide John, he's smug, insincere and pompous.
But she isn't right, she's just venting like a toddler.

I didn't like her delivery but I agree with the message, she was spot on about John .

I quite like John even though he can be smug and pompous at times but you are so right when you say that does not make Megan right, with her childish behaviour and acting like a spoilt brat!

So many people rehashing the word "spoilt/spoiled" after the loose women said it, can't you get your own views.

Megan was right about the "puppet master" John. And, even though her rant was borderline batshit crazy, maybe that's the only way she felt she could get her message across as no one seems to listen to her normally?

I have never seen that show or read about it.
And I've been saying this about Megan for a few days.
So, as you've been contradictory and incorrect and I've corrected you and challenged your inconsistencies I think you should form a view that is based on truth and stick to it rather than making unfounded accusations.
Megan is screaming abusive insults at people because she is a stupid foolish brat. That's what stupid people do.

But it was a classic spoiled child situation. . She screamed, shouted and banged on the diary room door demanding wine. And they rewarded her with a bottle of it.

Well she isn't really correct, she's just raging.
I can't bear john either

And as for justifying her rant. In my view that's complete hogwash.

Since you can check peoples posts for the word spoilt I decide to check it, you wrote it once yesterday whoopty doo. I'm going to form the view that most people who dislike Helen already disliked her before she'd even had this melt down and had already decided to pile on her no matter what even if she had a valid point.

Not me, I was saying it before the Highlights show was over, so should I tell the Loose Women to get their own views ?

They had some loose women presenters on the sideshow.

But John is manipulative, devious, arrogant, and he is playing them. Hiding behind his "Mr Nice Guy" persona.

Well she has made the Star front page ...no doubt she'll be chuffed
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