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Megans rant was extremely over dramatic but she was right about John
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GrozzyGirl
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“You wrote it once yesterday whoopty doo.”

Read and digest what I said, and you are quite quite wrong, again. Try not to make it a habit.
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Not me, I was saying it before the Highlights show was over, so should I tell the Loose Women to get their own views ? ”

I've been saying for days
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“They had some loose women presenters on the sideshow. ”

What side show, this is like a sideshow

She really should be removed, her behaviour is increasingly unhinged and abusive.
honeythewitch
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“But John is manipulative, devious, arrogant, and he is playing them. Hiding behind his "Mr Nice Guy" persona.”

Maybe, but now he IS nice in comparison.
Eve Elle
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Maybe, but now he IS nice in comparison.”

Meh... I prefer David anyways.
honeythewitch
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Meh... I prefer David anyways. ”

Me too.
Eve Elle
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Me too. ”

Anyone who can make me laugh is fine by me.
Warp
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“Read and digest what I said, and you are quite quite wrong, again. Try not to make it a habit.

I've been saying for days


What side show, this is like a sideshow

She really should be removed, her behaviour is increasingly unhinged and abusive.”

I just proved you've said it once yesterday..once.
Arthur_B
15-01-2016
She did have a point - initially. But then she descended into such a rage that any point she was trying to make was completely lost. Kristina was right, it was like she was possessed.
momentarything
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“She did have a point - initially. But then she descended into such a rage that any point she was trying to make was completely lost. Kristina was right, it was like she was possessed.”

I didn't really get what she was saying about John re. Tiffany. He said to Tiffany's face everyone wanted her out- it's hardly being two-faced. It's not pleasant, definitely, but he's not being deceitful. Same goes for nominating Darren- people said he stabbed him in the back, but he literally nominated him to his face. I don't get all this about 'one thing to your face, another behind your back'- to me, he says what he thinks to people's faces and later they make up and he's civil to people? I don't think John's come across particularly well the past couple of days, but all this talk of being 'sly' and stuff, I don't see it. If he's playing a game, he's really bad at it- he must know Darren is coming across wonderfully, so nominating him would do him no favours?

But, yeah, any valid points she made were totally lost in the manner of delivery.
Warp
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by momentarything:
“I didn't really get what she was saying about John re. Tiffany. He said to Tiffany's face everyone wanted her out- it's hardly being two-faced. It's not pleasant, definitely, but he's not being deceitful. Same goes for nominating Darren- people said he stabbed him in the back, but he literally nominated him to his face. I don't get all this about 'one thing to your face, another behind your back'- to me, he says what he thinks to people's faces and later they make up and he's civil to people? I don't think John's come across particularly well the past couple of days, but all this talk of being 'sly' and stuff, I don't see it. If he's playing a game, he's really bad at it- he must know Darren is coming across wonderfully, so nominating him would do him no favours?

But, yeah, any valid points she made were totally lost in the manner of delivery.”

It was John who said she should leave and then he went into her and said everyone else wanted her out but she should do what she wants.
bobbyd
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“It was John who said she should leave and then he went into her and said everyone else wanted her out but she should do what she wants.”

Backstabber - Tiffany's so worried she's spent the last 2 days with cushions stuffed up her back.!
Artie
15-01-2016
I agree that John hasn't been two faced or back stabbing, but I think he is being manipulative. If he can put the seed in the housemates' minds about who to nominate and also sway the public to e.g. vote out Darren for his own good, then he can potentally knock out those he sees as competition. Of course he won't know how he is being perceived by us while he is doing this.

I do also agree that Megan may have had a point somewhere in that alcohol fueled rant, but her truly unpleasant behaviour negated it. Megan really needs to stay away from the sauce. She's unpleasant enough sober, but completely vile when drunk.
momentarything
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Artie:
“I agree that John hasn't been two faced or back stabbing, but I think he is being manipulative. If he can put the seed in the housemates' minds about who to nominate and also sway the public to e.g. vote out Darren for his own good, then he can potentally knock out those he sees as competition. Of course he won't know how he is being perceived by us while he is doing this.

I do also agree that Megan may have had a point somewhere in that alcohol fueled rant, but her truly unpleasant behaviour negated it. Megan really needs to stay away from the sauce. She's unpleasant enough sober, but completely vile when drunk.”

Yeah, I agree with you there. I get why people are finding John unpleasant, but it's him constantly being called sly and two-faced... I don't really get that because he's said some pretty harsh things to people's faces.

I'm honestly baffled by him nominating Darren- John's obviously in it to win it (and there's nothing really wrong with that) but nominating probably the nicest person in there really goes against that. That's really when people turned on him. I guess he's just really misjudged what the perception of his actions would be there.

Yep. She will likely have to apologise for her vile behaviour and her apology will sound cheap if she's like 'oh, but I'm still right about x, y and z'.
J Swift
15-01-2016
Glad there are others here who can see through John

Shame it took getting drunk for someone to stand up for him, but then he does cast quite a menacing presence over the house
Fanntastik
15-01-2016
How you say something can be just as important as what you say. Megan had a point but it was totally lost along the way.
Penny Crayon
15-01-2016
I don't think she was right TBH.

I believe people were a bit scared by Tiffany and John was being trying to be gallant in representing them.

Megan and Tiffany do all that shouting/aggressive/crazy stuff for a living - it's nothing to them. Of course she wouldn't see anything wrong in it.

'Normal' people aren't subjected to all the effing and cing and people throwing themselves all over the place making a show of themselves. It really isn't normal behaviour - I for one would be incredibly unnerved by it as I don't mix or come into contact with ignorant trash. I think some of the HM's feel the same.
FunboyFandango
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I don't think she was right TBH.

I believe people were a bit scared by Tiffany and John was being trying to be gallant in representing them.

Megan and Tiffany do all that shouting/aggressive/crazy stuff for a living - it's nothing to them. Of course she wouldn't see anything wrong in it.

'Normal' people aren't subjected to all the effing and cing and people throwing themselves all over the place making a show of themselves. It really isn't normal behaviour - I for one would be incredibly unnerved by it as I don't mix or come into contact with ignorant trash. I think some of the HM's feel the same.”

I agree
user986
15-01-2016
I liked John. I was lucky enough to see him in "Cats" and think he is very talented BUT he is a two-faced weasel. I am so disappointed to notice what a major backstabber he is. I hope he'll get the boot. I am supporting Darren. I also like Christopher. He is a sweet bloke and would like him to get the money to start something good for his career.
zx50
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“She exposed John with the whole "we don't feel safe let's get her out" thing but she projected it in the wrong way obviously! The fact that she went over the top distracts from the fact that she was right and the HMS would have listened more if she hadn't kicked off.”

I completely agree. I always thought John Partridge was okay. Not so sure now. Tiffany was a bit sheepish in agreeing with Megan about the way John treat her over her mistake.
Bench
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I don't think she was right TBH.

I believe people were a bit scared by Tiffany and John was being trying to be gallant in representing them.

Megan and Tiffany do all that shouting/aggressive/crazy stuff for a living - it's nothing to them. Of course she wouldn't see anything wrong in it.

'Normal' people aren't subjected to all the effing and cing and people throwing themselves all over the place making a show of themselves. It really isn't normal behaviour - I for one would be incredibly unnerved by it as I don't mix or come into contact with ignorant trash. I think some of the HM's feel the same.”

I agree with all you say Penny
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