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Why didn't the HMs want Megan out?
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Jelakins
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“How would you know how or where I live ? Are you making assumptions about me and who I am ?”

Only a person who lives that way can think that way....

Where you live has no bearing... white people are everywhere!! LOL

And of course I'm making assumptions - who are you!!???
EnricoIV
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by What name??:
“Not just that. There is also the implied sense of willfull ignorance. And that is a very real thing. Sometimes people don't see or acknowledge what they don't want to see no matter how obvious it is.”

Sure, in this instance. I was just talking in general, though.

If someone is refusing to acknowledge something, they're neither innocent nor ignorant. They've got their head in the sand.
dekaf
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Jelakins:
“BIB - thats whats known as white privilege....”

Oh, and that comment isn't racist at all!
Jelakins
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Think what you like and twist it how you want . I know what I meant and I know how I feel .”

LOLOL - he touched your button!!
jobielad
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Ideally that is how we all should be and then racism wouldn't exist but sadly it does and we need to acknowledge that not hide behind empty rhetoric.”

I don't agree with you and I know exactly where ducky lucky is coming from on this. It really does not dawn on some people that race or colour or gender is involved. Some of us do live our lives seeing people as just that - people. Just because someone makes a point which differs from another persons doesn't necessarily mean they are hiding behind empty rhetoric.
Jelakins
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by dekaf:
“Oh, and that comment isn't racist at all!”

Because it uses the word "white"??
dekaf
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Jelakins:
“Because it uses the word "white"??”

Er yes, and of course the implication behind it.
Helenbemerry
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Ideally that is how we all should be and then racism wouldn't exist but sadly it does and we need to acknowledge that not hide behind empty rhetoric.”

Unfortunately it is never going to happen when people who do live and think like that are slated and called ignorant. There is no denying that racism exists but having a go at someone who is clearly not racist (or ignorant) really doesn't help.
dekaf
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“Unfortunately it is never going to happen when people who do live and think like that are slated and called ignorant. There is no denying that racism exists but having a go at someone who is clearly not racist (or ignorant) really doesn't help.”

Well said.
shellygurl88
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by bulldog rosie:
“She's white !”

Correct.
An Thropologist
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“I don't agree with you and I know exactly where ducky lucky is coming from on this. It really does not dawn on some people that race or colour or gender is involved. Some of us do live our lives seeing people as just that - people. Just because someone makes a point which differs from another persons doesn't necessarily mean they are hiding behind empty rhetoric.”

I know where she is coming from too because I think I come from there as well. It would never occur to me to think less of a person because of their skin colour any more than I would make allowances for them for that reason. What is more, I honestly don't know anybody who does. I am not denying those people exist but they are not people I encounter and even less ones I would associate with.
jobielad
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“Unfortunately it is never going to happen when people who do live and think like that are slated and called ignorant. There is no denying that racism exists but having a go at someone who is clearly not racist (or ignorant) really doesn't help.”

Well said Helenbemerry
jobielad
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I know where she is coming from too because I think I come from there as well. It would never occur to me to think less of a person because of their skin colour any more than I would make allowances for them for that reason. What is more, I honestly don't know anybody who does. I am not denying those people exist but they are not people I encounter and even less ones I would associate with.”

Same here
Eurostar
15-01-2016
She was definitely more threatening than Tiffany the other day ie. having to be physically restrained by three or four people at one point and nearly smashing up the diary room.
Randysback
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by pocahontas31:
“Her behaviour tonight was much worse and more volatile than Tiffabys the other day, yet not one of them mentioned feeling scared or threatened to leave if she didn't.

Hmmm wonder why....”

Probably because Tiffany could smash them up.. Megan would just give you a nasty scratch
Pro_Sniper
15-01-2016
Did you check the neck VEINS!?
Heartache
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Randysback:
“Probably because Tiffany could smash them up.. Megan would just give you a nasty scratch”

More towards this, she was having a go at the two people in there more than able to fight their own corner.

Tiffany was having a go at an older woman, seemingly more vulnerable, especially after receiving some upsetting news.
Penfolds_place
15-01-2016
The benefit of being a petite, conventionally attractive white girl, it seems that gives her the entitlement to act like an aggressive fool and then get cuddles .

I did think Tiff was out of order the other day, but she wasn't out of control. It seems like there are some double standards going on.
Eurostar
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Heartache:
“More towards this, she was having a go at the two people in there more than able to fight their own corner.

Tiffany was having a go at an older woman, seemingly more vulnerable, especially after receiving some upsetting news.”

Tiffany was being verbal : Megan was heading more into physical violence.
DiamondDoll
15-01-2016
I'm gobsmacked she wasn't booted for that disgusting display.
Heartache
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Tiffany was being verbal : Megan was heading more into physical violence.”

The threat of physical violence came after Tiffany launched herself out of bed shouting "don't get in my face" they had to both be held back from each other.
Shantan
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Pro_Sniper:
“Did you check the neck VEINS!? ”

Those are some neck veins that Hulkbwould be proud of having.
Veri
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“She was definitely more threatening than Tiffany the other day ie. having to be physically restrained by three or four people at one point and nearly smashing up the diary room.”

How is the diary room part relevant? Were the other HMs in the DR with her?
pixieboots
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Pro_Sniper:
“Did you check the neck VEINS!? ”

She's channeling Deirdre Barlow.
She's a spoiled brat and nothing more. She's only clicked onto what John is doing as she sees him as a threat to her carrying on and getting airtime. She got all dressed up in her best slinky lingerie for that little scene and it it looked as if Director John was shouting "cut" when he said we'll talk about it tomorrow. That's why she blew her top.

I would be ashamed to be related to or know her in any way and I've got some right ********s in my extended family. She's a violent thug pretending to be a "truth teller". Fast forward 5 years and she will be found falling out of pubs fighting with bouncers cos she's the only honest person in the pub. She really shouldn't drink as it just highlights the violence and selfishness in her.
Heyyouoverthere
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Because she is young and cute and still sexy as hell when she is going off on one.”

Really? At one point during her vicious ranting I thought she had on a cabbage patch doll mask.
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