He's such a FENCE SITTER. He doesn't stand for anything in that house. He's neutral and it annoys me to no end. For a husband and father you'd think he'd be more dominant but he's such a pushover. John has him wrapped around his fingers.

No doubt he'll win. BB loves rewarding the fence sitter.

He was prepared to confront John over the nomination in a reasonably sane and rational manner so is quite prepared to speak up when needed. Maybe he doesn't see the need to get involved in everybody else's issues.

And if he had got involved with the Tiffany/Megan outbursts then people on here would be condemning him for poking his nose in. Others didn't get involved so why single him out!?

Precisely. Why do people feel the need for confrontation all the time? I get the feeling that Darren would be prepared to stand his ground if he felt the need.

She's wrong but I can't help but like her. She also knows how to use a knife and fork properly.

I do think Darren is quite a frail personality but that's not surprising considering his past and recovery etc but I don't see why he should get involved in anyone else's drama to prove he has balls.

I actually like Darren.
He just seems like a regular nice Guy.
But he does need to watch out for John and not be so naive!

Gemma making bullets trying to shame him into kicking off.
If it's not in his nature he can't help it and it will only make him more miserable
Just like the romance stakes, Gamma trying to live her life vicariously through others in the house

i don't either
when something DID concern him directly, when John nominated him
he got involved and spoke to John about it

he steps in when there's an argument to try calm things down though, he did with Tiffany and he was first to rush to bedroom to check David Gest was still alive and kicking

Why?

Darren hasn't had any beef with anyone. He seems to get on with them all. What we have seen of him he's very pleasant and seems a genuinely nice guy. He confronted John about the nomination and accepted his reasons. What does he need to grow some for?

I'm not sure he did accept John's reasons for nominating him, he just didn't see any point in going on and on about it like some of the others would. I think he seems quite sensitive and was genuinely hurt by it. I don't think he'll be up for eviction anytime soon, so hopefully we'll get to see more of him.

an example of diplomatic Darren

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/angie...ed-john-day-11

I think he sees good in people until they were to do anything to him personally.
Which isn't a bad trait.

The way he forgave John though irritated me
Darren was correct in that John could have pulled Darren aside to have a go at him for spending ONE day chainsmoking rather than take a drastic stab in the back to his so called 'mate' and nominate Darren.

I dislike John, he's not funny,he's pretty humourless person and he seems to say things with a constant underlying alterior motive, one that keeps his position in that house , he said he knew how to stay popular with the HMs , which is playing the game, from moment he told this to Darren in the Box at start of the show

I think John's popularity is waning now
I think he'll be up for eviction next week

I dunno, he has no issues confronting John in a mature way about his problem. I don't see why not screaming and shouting means he has no balls.

Its unfortunate, however, that John is so skilled in manipulation and as such Darren took his explanation.

Probably but there are a good few who will go before him on a vote to save.

apologies, I meant John ,
I wasn't referring to Darren being up next week

who'd vote for John to stay in the house ?

I don't vote but there will be many that will. I have never particularly liked him but he is a better HM than at least half the house.

it's interesting to see him 'work' the HMs
he's calculating

The younger ones are very dull in comparision , I like to dislike John
but he's going to generate discussion and I think a big argument is brewing again

Kristina's pretty much in the background too.

I agree lin. It annoys me when some are conceived as weak just cos they're not up there in someone's face ranting and raving and being unnecessarily hurtful. He should be applauded for his calmness and rationale rather than condemned for it

And I'm pretty sure he has a fine pair of balls.

It would seem that if people aren't screaming, ranting and raving, cursing, and confronting people over the merest thing, they are somehow weak.

When did this become logical?

It seems to derive from this say it as it is/keeping it real/being true to oneself generation where it doesn't matter how horrible you are to other people so long as you're 'being honest'

Covered in chocolate

Anyone who isn't an aggressive gobshite is a 'fence sitter' according to some.

Not everyone thinks that snarling loudly with a ridiculous, learned faux-off-the-telly Essex accent is normal.

Mmmmm


It's not fence sitting. It's self control
Many of these young 'uns today should try it

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