http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Best-Song.html

Linda Perry has revealed that Lady Gaga's Oscar nominated song "Till It Happens To You" was offered to her before Lady Gaga. She said It was originally penned by Diane Warren and that she still has the demo which Diane sent to her. She goes on to say that Gaga didn't deserve the writing credit for a song she didn't write. Could this be disqualified by the academy? It's not the first time they've disqualifed a song.

What are your views?

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 5m5 minutes ago
I have Diane's original demo with her singing. The only line that has been changed "Till you're at the end, the end of your rope"

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 2m2 minutes ago
Originally was "TIL YOU GOT A HOLE RIPPED IN YOUR SOUL". So I guess technically one line was changed so sure Gaga possibly "rewrote" a line

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 1m1 minute ago
But chances are Diane still took part in rewriting that line which means Gaga contributed a few words. Is that writing? Not in my book.

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 4 mins4 minutes ago

I love Gaga so much respect and love this song that has nothing to do with anything. Why did Gaga get credit? Maybe because ...

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 3 mins3 minutes ago
Diane wanted to ensure her support in promoting the song. Gaga is a very smart business women she knew a song written by Diane Warren

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 3 mins3 minutes ago
Would be up for an Oscar. And you know it's hard getting music out there and heard. Especially a song from a documentary , so Diane knew

LINDA PERRY ‏@RealLindaPerry · 2 mins2 minutes ago
If she gave Gaga writing credit it would ensure the support this song needed and deserved. And Gaga knows her power.


Is anyone surprised by this revelation about Gaga taking credit for things that aren't her own? Certainly not me.

This is the first time I think Gaga has been accused of it

I was shocked at first when Gaga was credited as a writer as Diane Warren always writes her songs by herself. I can understand the annoyance because if the song does win at the oscars, it will mean that Gaga will win an oscar for a song she made one line of contribution to. The fact she won a golden globe for her abysmal work in AHS is still shocking.

Completely agree with you, LM.

The academy has no choice but to look into this since their rules are strict, especially when this means their credibility is on the line. I doubt they would like to be perceived as a joke like the Golden Globes.

Same thing happened with Rita Ora, she did not write the song but up for an Oscar. Papers all over her and she agreed so excited to be up for Oscar.

Gaga has said Diane and her are very excited. So its not like she is saying she did the whole thing on her own like Ora.

Have Gaga or Warren responded yet? Its going to be embarrassing if the song wins now, can Gaga really go up to collect an award for the track when she only changed one line of the song?

As much as I love Gaga, Red One was always the main reason for her early success. His formula was a winner and it passed over onto the other artists he worked with at the same period. Many of the songs he gave other artists could have easily been Gaga tracks. Once Gaga scaled back working with him her output went downhill. Not a coincidence I don't think. That said Gaga can defo write songs but like Madonna she needs a back up producer to make them great. Contrast to Beyonce who has never written a single lyric in her life.

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I've never understood why Beyonce would want no creative input in her songs. Why is that? I'm sure there is a strong songwriter inside her.

It could be two things.

1) She does write songs but they never make the final cut. A lot of Britney's self penned songs have always been the ones that never made the album.

2) The label may not allow her to become more involved in the writing process. A lot of labels on certain artists don't like artists having too much control in the writing process and would rather spend millions on best known songwriters that are sure to give them a hit.

or something else we don't know about

The Academy will definitely need to investigate now. This put's them in a very bad situation. If they decide that everything is fine with the nomination as is but someone releases the demo and it is indeed almost identical to the final release they will be in big trouble. I think the members will now vote for another song to prevent people from talking.

Could it be that Linda just kicked the song out of the race?

That won't happen.

The original version has already been leaked and it's very stripped back - nothing like the final version - so even if Gaga wasn't credited with writing the lyrics she'd almost certainly still be eligible for the Oscar (the production was her idea).

Only songwriters can be awarded though, not producers.

I'm sure Warren will support Gaga and say her writing credit is deserved (no matter if it's true) so not a big deal.

About time she was exposed.

Agree with Ms. Perry!!

Songwriting is far from just lyrics, it involves melody etc. Hence they say "music & lyrics" when crediting the nominees.

Gaga:
It was already kind of a finished piece when I came in to work on it with Diane. We made some changes so it would speak to more people than just rape survivors. The song kind of became a conversation between two women who had been sexually abused. Finding our common connection through this song and her sharing that with me - Diane doesn't co-write with anybody, ever - it meant a lot to me; it was really a gift. She was saying, I want to share this with you; this is ours,' and that's what we're saying to people: we want to share our pain with other people.

I'm sorry but saying this award is for the rape victims is pure manipulation. Firstly, rape victims are not a group of people, people who have been raped are individuals who each have their own story to tell, and Gaga winning a Golden Globe or Oscar doesn't suddenly make their lives brighter.

This song isn't highlighting anything that hasn't already been spoken about before. Rape is as old as the dawn of man and woman, it's been a crime for many years.

I'm all for the bringing the attention of rape victims to the masses and making it an important hot topic, but using this cause for the sake of your career and playing the victim is really quite low.

No shit Sherlock!

Only songwriters are eligible for Oscars, not producers. But you seem to not understand the difference between producing and songwriting.

Songwriting = writing lyrics AND composing melody

Producing = mastering the sound and instrumentation

Only those who participated in creation of the songs melody and lyrics can get a songwriting credit. Producers who were adjusting the sound are not eligible, production credits are irrelevant for Oscars.

Got it?

Well said.

Yep if producers also won then Madonna would have won an Oscar for 1991's Sooner Or Later which won but due to Madonna only being credited as a producer and not a writer the gong went to the single writer of the track, Stephen Sondheim.

Here is her epic performance on the night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVV6rrY0Ow

Madonna must be kicking herself now, Like Gaga she should have swapped one word for another and bagged herself an Oscar

However I admire Madonna greatly for letting the guy who wrote the track claim the award for his work. She was the most famous woman in the world at this point in her career, It could have been very easy for her to get given a writing credit but she didn't, she was content to just being the songs producer. I admire Madonna's honesty.

Obviously - that's what I said! If Gaga didn't write the lyrics then she would still be eligible for the Oscar as she was the main voice in other parts of the songwriting process. Diane would never give a songwriting credit out if it wasn't deserved, she very rarely co-writes with anyone as Gaga said.

Linda has since apologised on Twitter now anyway and admitted she got it wrong - why she would try to ruin her friend's chance at finally getting an Oscar after eight nominations is beyond me anyway.

She seemed very certain of it earlier. Sounds like she was threatened with legal action by Gaga's lawyers.

Or she realised she could not possibly comment on the making of a song she wasn't involved in?

Then why comment in the first place? Diane has since been on twitter and hasn't denied Linda's words about this mysterious demo, which makes me think Linda is telling the truth. I honestly don't see what she could possibly gain from telling lies.

Lind Perry was very clear that she has the demo of Diane singing the song and stated that only one line was changed in the lyrics. The melody and structure was already there too. so what did Gaga contribute to to the song besides changing one line of lyric.

Linda was obviously 'got too' she is a song writer, she heard the demo and the finished product and only noticed a change in one line of the lyrics which she even quoted on twitter.

Gaga could potentially be receiving an award for a song that she didn't write.

Stuff like this isn't exactly a revelation. Some acts are 'sold' as songwriters, for the sake credibility. No-one's denying that Gaga isn't talented, or that she can write songs, but it's pretty well known that loads of her material, along with other huge acts like Rihanna, Katy Perry etc. is written by teams of people and offered around.

Telephone is the best example, cause the Britney demo of it leaked (yet both Gaga's and Beyonce's names are on it as songwriters xD). But it's also pretty well known that Just Dance was written by RedOne and Akon, with Gaga's name slapped on it. And who knows how much of her first album she wrote other than a handful of lyrics? RedOne and others created her signature sound.

GaGa did write Telephone. She first offered it to Britney, who's team rejected it. GaGa re-recorded it for herself and the rest is history.