Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“I'm very far from even being a Lady Gaga fan, but hell, I'd rather give her the benefit of the doubt since Diane Warren, the co-writer of the song, has actually recognized Gaga's input.”
Nile Rogers, William Orbit, Diplo and Pat Leonard have also given praise to Madonna on how much input she has in the recording process. Why is it ok for you to give Diane Warren the benefit of the doubt and not credible people like the one's listed above? Oh that's right, because you have a grudge against Madonna.
Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“Apparently Madonna tried to change several words during the recording of You Must Love Me but was put in her place by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice, the writers of the song. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. She's changed one or two words to songs in the past so she can get a credit on them, people who have worked with her have confirmed this. Maybe she tried to change a few words during the recording of Sooner or Later, maybe Stephen Sondheim saw straight through her and told her to take a seat.”
I very much doubt Madonna would try to change the words of a well-known musical in order to get a writing credit. Sir Tim Rice has given several interviews on Madonna's role in Evita and he was extremely complimentary. Unfortunately for you there is no mention of Madonna’s attempts to change the words in the Evita tracks, in his interviews or anywhere else. Another fabrication? The first word in that paragraph said it all. I could also say the same about other acts. Kylie
apparently did this, Britney
apparently did that.
Maybe this,
maybe that.
Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“Madonna has won two Golden Globes out of seven nominations, but none of them have led to Oscar nominations. Masterpiece and Beautiful Stranger weren't eligible for Best Original Song nominations, but Who's That Girl, I'll Remember, This Used to Be My Playground and Die Another Day were. I'm pretty sure hell will have to freeze over before the Academy nominates Madonna.”
The reason why Masterpiece and Beautiful Stranger wern’t eligible is because neither of them were the first music cue in the closing credits. If those songs were the first in the closing credits they would have been eligible. Screwball comedy movies like Who’s That Girl are very seldom recognized. The Academy prefer Serious dramas or social-problem films with weighty inspirational themes or glossy, large-scale epic historical productions with big budgets. Except for Masterpiece and the Evita tracks, I don’t think any of her music from the films you've mentioned fall in that category. There’s also a host of big named artists who have never won an Oscar too, so that doesn't mean a thing.
Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“A lot of bitter Madonna fans are going in on Lady Gaga over this controversy, but let's face it, they would dismiss this if it was happening to Madonna. It reminds me of the time when Madonna fans criticised Lady Gaga for the amount of songwriter and producer credits on Artpop even though Madonna's last three albums are full of songs written and produced by half a dozen different people. Madonna hasn't written a song by herself since the the long-forgotten Gambler in the mid-1980s.”
You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Madonna’s fans. From what I’ve been reading, it seems a lot of people aren’t to happy over this controversy surrounding Lady Gaga. It’s not just Madonna’s fans, its fans of other artists too.
Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“It's a bit rich of Madonna fans to criticise another artist for something Madonna has done for 30 years. She clearly can't write a decent song by herself and is clever enough to change a few words to get a credit on her hits. When Madonna releases a song that's been written and produced by half a dozen people her fans have every excuse under the sun as to why there are so many people credited but dismiss the same excuses if a fan of another singer uses them. What's the saying? Oh yeah, don't throw stones in glass houses.”
The truth is (like other artists) nobody (other than the people she works with) knows how much she contributes to the music. What they have said is they are surprised by her hands on approach to the creative process. Each one has said she is a genius at coming up with lyrics and melodies and couldn't give her enough praise. I’d rather believe those people than the ones who are fuelled by hatred and have no idea what they’re talking about.
Originally Posted by SummerHeart:
“According to Madonna fans she writes all the lyrics and the other people, including world-renowned songwriters, don't have any input and are credited for other reasons. She didn't accept the Golden Globe Award in 2012 on her own, the other two songwriters were on stage with her. In fact, she shares all of her GG nominations for Best Original Song with the other people who wrote the songs with her. Her fans really need to get over themselves. The only reason Madonna has a career is because of luck and the talent of other people. Come back to me when Madonna actually writes and produces an album by herself and proves that she's the musical genius her fans claim she is. It's not like she sits down and writes her hits by herself. 99.9% of her back catalogue exists because of the other people involved.”
So once again this is just another very bitter hate filled post with no real facts. Just pure speculation and nothing more. I’m a huge Madonna fan and have frequented quite a few fan sites over the years and not one of her fans have been stupid enough to say she’s written all the songs by herself. If they did we wouldn’t hear them talk about Pat Leonard or William Orbit so much. Madonna’s success is down to talent, hard work and determination - not luck. There are hundreds of interviews on youtube where people have clarified this, but I guess you wouldn’t want to watch them and see people talk positively about Madonna, would you? - Just like Skylights (above)