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Old 23-01-2016, 19:18
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Nostalgia isn't about how good music was, it's about the good times you had whilst the music was playing. If today's young people are reminiscing in 40 years' time they'll be nostalgic about the parties and clubs and live gigs they went to, not the times they watched YouTube with their headphones on. Except, maybe watching YouTube with your headphones on will seem terribly quaint and old-fashioned 40 years from now.
I don't think I agree with that. I think it IS about how good the music was because you don't reminisce about how good tracks were you didn't like. If you went to a night club and they were playing music you didn't like you wouldn't really be enjoying yourself as much as if you were in a club where they were playing music you loved so in 30 years time you wouldn't reminisce about how good a club was that was playing music you didn't like. So I think it's very much about the music.
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Old 23-01-2016, 19:52
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I love Shake the Disease and it's video and I can see why you'd have that scene in your head. I don't know how I can picture a cloudy day in 1985 haha

DM were a big thing for me a few years ago, but my favourite era of theirs will always be Construction Time Again to Violator (1983-1990). There are tracks from 1993 onwards albums I like but I was underwhelmed by everything since Exciter bar Should be Higher. Loved that song! I loved the documentaries that came with each album, fascinating all the way through.

I Feel You, Barrel of a Gun, Home, I Feel Loved, Wrong and Peace are the post Violator songs I like.

I also liked the Lissie song in 2013 or 14.

A modern band I've loved a few years now are coming back with their first album since I got into them, and they're playing at a festival I want to go to.

Yeasayer - I Am Chemistry
I take you haven't got the 'Speak and Spell' album. Don't you like New Life. I thought that was brilliant.
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Old 23-01-2016, 20:04
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I take you haven't got the 'Speak and Spell' album. Don't you like New Life. I thought that was brilliant.
I have. New Life is good, but my favourites are Tora Tora Tora and Any Second Now.
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Old 24-01-2016, 08:58
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Nostalgia isn't about how good music was, it's about the good times you had whilst the music was playing. If today's young people are reminiscing in 40 years' time they'll be nostalgic about the parties and clubs and live gigs they went to, not the times they watched YouTube with their headphones on. Except, maybe watching YouTube with your headphones on will seem terribly quaint and old-fashioned 40 years from now.
my point is that its about shareing memories with contemporaries... now i find thats easy to do when you and your contemporaries liked the same style of (chart) music. but if todays youth are having more private musical favs via searching for more obscure acts, how can they (in future) have a themed party (like many of my contemporaries do)?... its so and so's 50th birthday, you are invited, come dressed as a glam rocker/punk/ted/ new romantic/ 2 tone ska etc...

i see no common bond in todays youth, and what there might be certainly isnt as strong, obvious and bonding the way it was - and THATS what i think is wrong today.

Even if Oldies did hear a brand new sound they would probably hate it anyway. every new genre gets slated. most people seem to listen to a song for 30 seconds and if it doesn't grab them they switch off ]
i reckon youre right, but dont we all judge a new sound within the first 30 seconds? even you searchers trying to discover new music?

but even sounds/styles i didnt like (glam, philly) i could respect for being a new style.
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Old 24-01-2016, 10:01
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my point is that its about shareing memories with contemporaries... now i find thats easy to do when you and your contemporaries liked the same style of (chart) music. but if todays youth are having more private musical favs via searching for more obscure acts, how can they (in future) have a themed party (like many of my contemporaries do)?... its so and so's 50th birthday, you are invited, come dressed as a glam rocker/punk/ted/ new romantic/ 2 tone ska etc...
I'm sure that some of today's songs will bring back great memories in 20 or 30 years, just as some of today's fashions will. I can imagine people of my son's generation dressing up as hipsters for their 50th, false beards and all (and that's just the women) and playing vaguely hipsterish dance stuff like Arcade Fire or Jungle. And they're bound to put on their Pharrell hats to dance to Happy, aren't they?

It's very difficult to identify, and identify with, youth culture when you're not a youth. But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the music as you get older, you just enjoy it without necessarily being part of the culture that produced it. And a lot of us enjoyed Motown without being part of the culture that produced it, back when we were young.
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Old 24-01-2016, 10:48
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I'm sure that some of today's songs will bring back great memories in 20 or 30 years, just as some of today's fashions will. I can imagine people of my son's generation dressing up as hipsters for their 50th, false beards and all (and that's just the women) and playing vaguely hipsterish dance stuff like Arcade Fire or Jungle. And they're bound to put on their Pharrell hats to dance to Happy, aren't they?

It's very difficult to identify, and identify with, youth culture when you're not a youth. But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the music as you get older, you just enjoy it without necessarily being part of the culture that produced it. And a lot of us enjoyed Motown without being part of the culture that produced it, back when we were young.
hmm... maybe, but pharrell was one artist without a defining fashion.
i guess time will tell

oh i dont expect to identify with youth culture, but i do expect to see evidence of a movement if there is one. youth movements have supplied comedy with a stream of material ripe for p taking, from teddyboys to kevin and perry via sid snot et al . whilst the current ridiculous fashion for big hairy beards is easy meat for ridicule - what movement does it represent? itd just look like a p take of a bloke with a beard and not like say kevin and perry who were taking the rise out of the club culture generation . like it or not, we all were aware of the ibiza club scene in the late 90's when it appeared to reach its zenith, and understood what kevin and perry were spoofing.
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Old 24-01-2016, 11:40
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hmm... maybe, but pharrell was one artist without a defining fashion.
i guess time will tell

oh i dont expect to identify with youth culture, but i do expect to see evidence of a movement if there is one. youth movements have supplied comedy with a stream of material ripe for p taking, from teddyboys to kevin and perry via sid snot et al . whilst the current ridiculous fashion for big hairy beards is easy meat for ridicule - what movement does it represent? itd just look like a p take of a bloke with a beard and not like say kevin and perry who were taking the rise out of the club culture generation . like it or not, we all were aware of the ibiza club scene in the late 90's when it appeared to reach its zenith, and understood what kevin and perry were spoofing.
But you and I and Harry Enfield were 20 years younger back then. People who were your current age back in the 1990s probably didn't know very much about club culture.
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:25
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But you and I and Harry Enfield were 20 years younger back then. People who were your current age back in the 1990s probably didn't know very much about club culture.
maybe not, and i suspect they wouldnt watch kevin and perry go large...

but i think that if they did watch it, theyd understand the context. 'big hairy beard man' has no context, does it? what cultural movement does it represent?
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Old 24-01-2016, 18:44
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Even if Oldies did hear a brand new sound they would probably hate it anyway. every new genre gets slated. most people seem to listen to a song for 30 seconds and if it doesn't grab them they switch off (i say oldies, but i'm nearly 40)
I've found the older I've got my music taste has widened. I'm in my early 40s and back in the 80s I used to listen the chart every sunday on R1 and that was the ONLY music I listened to. I used to hate 60s music with a passion but over the years I've grown to like. I also like some classical music. As for modern music, oh I don't know, I just don't like the sound of a lot of it. There seem to be so many songs that just go in one ear and out the other. I'd love to hear a new song that makes me feel the same way I felt when I first heard Kyrie by Mr Mister. I absolutely loved that record when it first came out.
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Old 24-01-2016, 20:05
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I've found the older I've got my music taste has widened. I'm in my early 40s and back in the 80s I used to listen the chart every sunday on R1 and that was the ONLY music I listened to. I used to hate 60s music with a passion but over the years I've grown to like. I also like some classical music. As for modern music, oh I don't know, I just don't like the sound of a lot of it. There seem to be so many songs that just go in one ear and out the other. I'd love to hear a new song that makes me feel the same way I felt when I first heard Kyrie by Mr Mister. I absolutely loved that record when it first came out.
Seriously Kyrie by Mr Mister? That was a pretty average song. All eras had better music than that.
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Old 24-01-2016, 20:38
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Seriously Kyrie by Mr Mister? That was a pretty average song. All eras had better music than that.
Yes, Kyrie by Mr Mister. I liked it. I'm sure there are songs that you love that I'd probably think what a load of rubbish or what's so great about that. Each to their own I suppose.
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Old 24-01-2016, 22:10
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Yes, Kyrie by Mr Mister. I liked it. I'm sure there are songs that you love that I'd probably think what a load of rubbish or what's so great about that. Each to their own I suppose.
That isn't really the point. There are continual complaints in this thread about the lack of originality in new music yet we get examples like this with old music. The Mr Mister track was soft rock so it was hardly original especially considering we had numerous bands from this genre a decade up to when this track was released.
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Old 24-01-2016, 22:16
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Yes, Kyrie by Mr Mister. I liked it. I'm sure there are songs that you love that I'd probably think what a load of rubbish or what's so great about that. Each to their own I suppose.
Funny I like that song myself. Are bands like Mr Mister, REO Speedwagon, Boston, Journey etc a thing of the past?
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Old 25-01-2016, 00:18
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one band that i would put up against some of the bands mentioned on here are future islands and sun kill moon who are probably the only bands of the last few years that i have been really into

future islands - seasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Ae...=RD-5Ae-LhMIG0


sun kill moon - carissa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBNdOTu2Wn0

the only solo artist i have loved in the last few years is john grant

i wanna go to marz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcRCp4EpVtk

aside from that, other albums i have really enjoyed have been few and far between
metronomy - the english rivera, the horrors - skying, the xx - coexist, zola jesus - stridulum II, haim - days are gone, foals - what went down, joanna newsom - divers , purity ring - another eternity, young galaxy ultramarine and sleaford mods - key markets (although sleaford mods are an acquired taste)


metronomy - the bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PnOG67flRA

the horrors - still life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQk0jDZx8o

the xx - angels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nW5AF0m9Zw

zola jesus - night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah8QWamNXWk

haim - forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEwM6ERq0gc

foals - mountain at my gates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_EIE5f2t6M

joanna newsom - divers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48xlgXqQKLA

sleaford mods - tarantula deadly cargo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-gvxxhcS8s

purity ring - bodyache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbqcXnTt-7o

young galaxy - new summer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7cCB7v5W4
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Old 25-01-2016, 09:16
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Funny I like that song myself. Are bands like Mr Mister, REO Speedwagon, Boston, Journey etc a thing of the past?
bloody hope so......

cant stand 95% of that soft rock rubbish.. but i do admit 5% is very good, i like broken wings better then kyrie.
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Old 25-01-2016, 17:46
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I have tried to work out why I like some music more than another. I think there is a certain type of epic, exciting music that hints at a unachievable certainty that I always like irrespective of time or genre.

Chvrches are quite excellent.on that score. Their 'Every Open Eye' album is full of gems.
I also quite like Skylar Spence whom I found on a Best of 2015 pop list.
His album is called 'Prom King' from last year.
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Old 25-01-2016, 17:47
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my point is that its about shareing memories with contemporaries... now i find thats easy to do when you and your contemporaries liked the same style of (chart) music. but if todays youth are having more private musical favs via searching for more obscure acts, how can they (in future) have a themed party (like many of my contemporaries do)?... its so and so's 50th birthday, you are invited, come dressed as a glam rocker/punk/ted/ new romantic/ 2 tone ska etc...

i see no common bond in todays youth, and what there might be certainly isnt as strong, obvious and bonding the way it was - and THATS what i think is wrong today.

i reckon youre right, but dont we all judge a new sound within the first 30 seconds? even you searchers trying to discover new music?

but even sounds/styles i didnt like (glam, philly) i could respect for being a new style.
I guess the ongoing, relentless pursuit of new things to listen to is a shared experience for some here and in that sense is a form of bonding. Then again regularly arguing about whether modern music is as good as earlier music is also bonding.
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Old 25-01-2016, 18:34
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That isn't really the point. There are continual complaints in this thread about the lack of originality in new music yet we get examples like this with old music. The Mr Mister track was soft rock so it was hardly original especially considering we had numerous bands from this genre a decade up to when this track was released.
I didn't pick Kyrie because I thought it was ground breaking or totally original. It certainly wasn't. I picked it because the first time I heard it I thought this is brilliant. I just liked the tune and sound of it. I don't know if young people feel like this now but back in those days when you heard a song for the first time and you absolutely loved it it would give you a sort of strange or excited feeling. Another song I loved the first time I heard it was Sonic Boom Boy by Westworld. Calling America by ELO was another one although it didn't get that high in the chart.
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Old 25-01-2016, 20:04
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I didn't pick Kyrie because I thought it was ground breaking or totally original. It certainly wasn't. I picked it because the first time I heard it I thought this is brilliant. I just liked the tune and sound of it. I don't know if young people feel like this now but back in those days when you heard a song for the first time and you absolutely loved it it would give you a sort of strange or excited feeling. Another song I loved the first time I heard it was Sonic Boom Boy by Westworld. Calling America by ELO was another one although it didn't get that high in the chart.
What do you mean back then? I grew up in the 80's and now in my 40's I still get excited by many tracks. The tracks you name were all pretty average.
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:02
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What do you mean back then? I grew up in the 80's and now in my 40's I still get excited by many tracks. The tracks you name were all pretty average.
When I say back then I mean back in the 80s.
You're in your 40s like me so I'm assuming you remember the 80s. I felt that as we got into the 90s music just seemed to lose something. I remember when I was about 17 I started going off chart music. This was about 1990/91. I was just getting less and less enjoyment listening to it. I didn't like the sound of the music or the look of the bands. Eight years before you'd have Howard Jones on TOTP or Level 42. Just bands that you recognised but in the early 90s you started getting all these faceless dance acts and the music slowly started to lose the verse chorus, verse chorus, middle bit final verse chorus.
You keep saying the songs I pick are average. If someone likes certain songs they're not average to them. There's been countless links to modern songs which are apparently great but in my opinion are way way below average. Bloody awful to be honest.
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:20
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I didn't pick Kyrie because I thought it was ground breaking or totally original. It certainly wasn't. I picked it because the first time I heard it I thought this is brilliant. I just liked the tune and sound of it. I don't know if young people feel like this now but back in those days when you heard a song for the first time and you absolutely loved it it would give you a sort of strange or excited feeling. Another song I loved the first time I heard it was Sonic Boom Boy by Westworld. Calling America by ELO was another one although it didn't get that high in the chart.
I loved 'Kyrie' and was one of my favourite songs that year , it had amazing production that put the hairs in your neck stand up and an epic chorus . I call this chills and at 44 finding songs that give you that feeling these days is a rare thing. I would count maybe 2 a year.

For a chart hit to do that is even rarer but 'Shut Up And Dance' did for me in 2015. The best example in the last few years is the hit that never was Kongos - Come With Me Now, a #14 peak on ITunes and massive US hit
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:25
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I guess the ongoing, relentless pursuit of new things to listen to is a shared experience for some here and in that sense is a form of bonding. Then again regularly arguing about whether modern music is as good as earlier music is also bonding.
Yes and we bond on the overlaps , we may all like different things but certain acts are liked by many and rise above the obscure searches like , Chvrches,Haim,Foals etc and these bands sell albums and big tours.
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:26
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When I say back then I mean back in the 80s.
You're in your 40s like me so I'm assuming you remember the 80s. I felt that as we got into the 90s music just seemed to lose something. I remember when I was about 17 I started going off chart music. This was about 1990/91. I was just getting less and less enjoyment listening to it. I didn't like the sound of the music or the look of the bands. Eight years before you'd have Howard Jones on TOTP or Level 42. Just bands that you recognised but in the early 90s you started getting all these faceless dance acts and the music slowly started to lose the verse chorus, verse chorus, middle bit final verse chorus.
You keep saying the songs I pick are average. If someone likes certain songs they're not average to them. There's been countless links to modern songs which are apparently great but in my opinion are way way below average. Bloody awful to be honest.
That is just utter nonsense. Yes there was Dance music but there was plenty of other good music in the 90's.
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:39
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I saw The Horrors supporting Placebo a few years ago, it is fair to say they fully lived up to their name...
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Old 26-01-2016, 08:40
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Oh yeh no bands in 90s 1990-1991 you had bands like Jesus Jones, EMF, Happy Mondays, Nirvana, And you still had traditional pop/rock bands like Deacon Blue, Texas, Crowded House, that's just if the top of my head

Level 42 they make today's chart music sound cutting edge
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