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Sky LOVE ads and shove them into other sports during such as Boxing where they shove ads on between rounds, when hearing the corners is important, you have to watch some crap for Sky Bet or a Ford ad etc.
So ads in Quali between Q1, Q2 & Q3 etc. And possibly an ad break in the middle of the race too i wouldn't be surprised! Sky wreck HBO & Showtime shows on Sky Atlantic so they couldn't care less for the actual integrity of something and leaving it alone. F1 is no different in that respect and i fully expect them to ruin it come exclusivity! |
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F1 does not often get more than a few words in Sky's financial results, but a litlle more this time in their quarterly results. Quote:
In sports, we secured the rights for UEFA Euro 2016 and Copa America Centenario earlier in the quarter in Italy whilst we also announced our deal to make Sky Sports the exclusive home of Formula 1 in the UK and Ireland for six years from 2019.
At the start of the latest Formula 1 (“F1”) season we further reorganised our production activities into a single European team which will service all of our markets, and share expertise and innovation across the group. We also created one F1 promotional campaign which ran across all markets. Similarly, the current Sky Box Sets marketing campaigns running in Germany and Italy utilise the original format created in the UK. We have now also aligned the channel ogos for Sky Atlantic and Sky Arts across the group, allowing for more cross-territory marketing campaigns to be delivered in the future. Sky Sports and Sky News will be aligned in all territories over the next six months, along with the UK’s market-leading Sky Sports app launching in Germany and Italy later in the year. https://corporate.sky.com/documents/...%20release.pdf |
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Sky LOVE ads and shove them into other sports during such as Boxing where they shove ads on between rounds, when hearing the corners is important, you have to watch some crap for Sky Bet or a Ford ad etc.
So ads in Quali between Q1, Q2 & Q3 etc. And possibly an ad break in the middle of the race too i wouldn't be surprised! Sky wreck HBO & Showtime shows on Sky Atlantic so they couldn't care less for the actual integrity of something and leaving it alone. F1 is no different in that respect and i fully expect them to ruin it come exclusivity! |
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I'm really hoping that their contract isn't renewed after that and that it goes back to FTA. Afterall F1 is different to most other sports as it relies so much on sponsorship and I can't imagine sponsors will be happy to spend millions to get in front of an audience of less than half a million people
Bernie was with his friend Sir Martin Sorrell at an advertising conference recently. Clearly, sticking your content behind a paywall has caused some alarm within the F1 bubble. Bernie's a new convert to the merits of social media for marketing purposes. http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/2...ce-since-2008/ |
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It relied on the money from tobacco sponsorship before the ban. Big tobacco needed the exposure of free-to-air TV. ]
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And yet, when tobacco sponsorship was at its' height, the majority of the races were highlights-only...
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I'm really hoping that their contract isn't renewed after that and that it goes back to FTA. Afterall F1 is different to most other sports as it relies so much on sponsorship and I can't imagine sponsors will be happy to spend millions to get in front of an audience of less than half a million people
But comments like 'I hope their contract doesn't get renewed' is frankly just silly. |
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Of interest to some here no doubt - https://vimeo.com/ondemand/svsb
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Indycar fans might want to tune in at 8:30pm tonight on BT ESPN. I'll tell you why for the following reasons:
1. Instead of just the US feed we are getting coverage of tonight's race hosted by Keith Collantine who host's BT's coverage of Formula Renault and 3.5, he will be joined by Tom Gaymor who if you don't know does commentary for Eurosport. 2. Coverage is going to be ad-free! (I will add that it will only be during green flag periods) ![]() ![]() According to Nick Kennerley (BT Sport Producer) it's a test run for tonight's race so expect it to be like the 2014 Indy 500 broadcast where BT goes to the studio when the Americans take an ad-break. Also Suzi Perry has mentioned that she will be involved in the Indy 500 coverage and a WRC round so looks like WRC is getting studio coverage for a round which is great news! Proud to see BT improve their motorsport coverage.
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This is brilliant!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...Fformula1&_rdr Maybe paper, scissors or rock should be the new F1 qualifying format. |
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Indycar fans might want to tune in at 8:30pm tonight on BT ESPN. I'll tell you why for the following reasons:
1. Instead of just the US feed we are getting coverage of tonight's race hosted by Keith Collantine who host's BT's coverage of Formula Renault and 3.5, he will be joined by Tom Gaymor who if you don't know does commentary for Eurosport. 2. Coverage is going to be ad-free! (I will add that it will only be during green flag periods) ![]() ![]() According to Nick Kennerley (BT Sport Producer) it's a test run for tonight's race so expect it to be like the 2014 Indy 500 broadcast where BT goes to the studio when the Americans take an ad-break. Also Suzi Perry has mentioned that she will be involved in the Indy 500 coverage and a WRC round so looks like WRC is getting studio coverage for a round which is great news! Proud to see BT improve their motorsport coverage. ![]() The UK audio for the ad break is better (...and have just acknowledged there's an issue.) |
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BT Sport totally screwing up the audio on Indycar. Can barely hear what they are saying at times.
Some proper pre-race would be good too - oh and the video that goes along with the audio in the three minutes of pre-race we do get. I know it's been like that for years, but it still annoys the hell out of me. |
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It wasn't BT that screwed up the audio; was the same on every country taking the World Feed. (Sport1US in Germany had the same issue)
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It wasn't BT that screwed up the audio; was the same on every country taking the World Feed. (Sport1US in Germany had the same issue)
Pity they couldn't have cut to London as soon as it was clear the US audio was all screwed up, i.e. before the ad-break, but apart from that this coverage was a vast improvement
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It would be nice if IndyCar or NBC (or whoever's in charge of producing the international feed) could pay the international feed a bit more attention, maybe give us a modern graphics set (with any US-only bits like the NBC Logo and/or references to adverts/US-only sponsorship taken out, if that's what's causing an older more generic set to be needed).
Also, great research by autosport to use an 18 month old quote from Bernie about social media, rather than using the more recent one where he said he gets it now: http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-digital-media /s |
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It would be nice if IndyCar or NBC (or whoever's in charge of producing the international feed) could pay the international feed a bit more attention, maybe give us a modern graphics set (with any US-only bits like the NBC Logo and/or references to adverts/US-only sponsorship taken out, if that's what's causing an older more generic set to be needed).
Also, great research by autosport to use an 18 month old quote from Bernie about social media, rather than using the more recent one where he said he gets it now: http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-digital-media /s |
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What are you talking about? If you make the effort to read on, it continues to include Bernie's latest thought developments.
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I'm really hoping that their contract isn't renewed after that and that it goes back to FTA. Afterall F1 is different to most other sports as it relies so much on sponsorship and I can't imagine sponsors will be happy to spend millions to get in front of an audience of less than half a million people
I expect far more ads on Sky when they get exclusivity- perhaps even during safety car periods during the race. |
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What are you talking about? If you make the effort to read on, it continues to include Bernie's latest thought developments.
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LOL, "great research" to not read the whole article...
![]() ![]() Even so, Marchionne's viewpoints are a tad out of date IMO. I mean I could understand if he'd said that 2 or 3 years ago, before F1's Twitter, Facebook, Instagram & Youtube acounts sprung into life & the website was rebooted, but they have now, so I don't think F1's in a bad position, social-media-wise now tbh. |
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It would be nice if IndyCar or NBC (or whoever's in charge of producing the international feed) could pay the international feed a bit more attention, maybe give us a modern graphics set (with any US-only bits like the NBC Logo and/or references to adverts/US-only sponsorship taken out, if that's what's causing an older more generic set to be needed).
ABC/ESPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DENMxtAi8Uc NBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OaohiGtciE I also don't like how the international feed tends to cut away from some of the stuff from the pre-race leaving us looking at random static shots of the crowd or an empty track rather than seeing whatever features, interviews or whatever that the domestic feed is showing. Its kind of irritating to be able to hear the audio but not be able to see it. |
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I agree, The graphics we get on the international feed (During the NBC races anyway) are functional but there 10 years old now & they just look a bit dated now (And miss a few small features) compared to what the domestic coverage has.
ABC/ESPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DENMxtAi8Uc NBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OaohiGtciE I also don't like how the international feed tends to cut away from some of the stuff from the pre-race leaving us looking at random static shots of the crowd or an empty track rather than seeing whatever features, interviews or whatever that the domestic feed is showing. Its kind of irritating to be able to hear the audio but not be able to see it. And I would imagine that the US feed's stuff is broadcaster-specific. In the same way that F1's world feed doesn't include (rarely) any interviews, or pre-race features. Still, that all depends on what deals the international broadcasters have done with the US broadcasters, for example Canada's F1 coverage this year includes all of Sky UK's features (essentially they're simulcasting Sky F1's entire coverage), rather than taking just the FOM feed with BBC commentary as they did last year. |
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The article's now changed since I made that post. I wonder if Ian Parkes reads this forum?
.Some Ad blockers and the latest integrated browser ad blockers tend to remove the more article button now Ive noticed but still it does not show the full article. Just look on apple news now for Autosport headlines as it seems to not do that article reduction, but it is hard to setup at first to get the right topics, beta and all that! |
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Might be a bit of the Autosport articles when they first appear are always short, encouraging you to buy the magazine for more and then a few days later the article expands.
Some Ad blockers and the latest integrated browser ad blockers tend to remove the more article button now Ive noticed but still it does not show the full article. Just look on apple news now for Autosport headlines as it seems to not do that article reduction, but it is hard to setup at first to get the right topics, beta and all that! |
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Not really broadcasting-related but just a few thoughts of some of the motorsport I caught over the weekend. Feel free to tune out now
![]() Formula E: I note there wasn't any chat here about the Paris race (if there was and I missed it, apologies) - I did wonder if that meant the last few folk who were watching have finally stopped, but maybe it just wasn't interesting enough to pass comment on. It was an ok race, another stupid circuit that's good for PR as it's in the city but far too narrow and twisty for much hope of racing on (and looked like a jigsaw piece on the track map) but some drivers still managed a good lunge here or there. Shame the SC neutralised the last 5 laps, I wanted to see how they would get the cars to the end. Given they finished with less than 10% energy, it surely would have been dicey if the last 5 laps were racing laps? I kind of thought at the time the series dodged a bullet as it looked to me like noone would be able to get the car home, but maybe it would have been fine. WTCC: Martin Haven was in particularly ranty mode, with everything from the TV coverage ("pitlane schmitlane") and the random FIA penalty generator irking him (and rightly so). I do wish someone would give him a bigger gig than the WTCC, I almost think he's the best thing about it! It was actually a reasonably interesting WTCC weekend for once, with a couple of wet races in Hungary throwing up some different race orders. Also livened up by Nicky Catsburg (I think it was) describing his car as "absolutely shit" live over Team Radio. Blancpain Endurance Series: didn't watch all of this, just the first few laps, but is probably the first race ever where I've actually thought the field was too large! 57 cars at Monza meant more than half the field actually had to come to a complete halt and wait for the first chicane to become negotiable. Still, heck of an impressive grid assembled. Didn't realise John Watson still did commentary on this series. |
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Not really broadcasting-related but just a few thoughts of some of the motorsport I caught over the weekend. Feel free to tune out now
![]() Formula E: I note there wasn't any chat here about the Paris race (if there was and I missed it, apologies) - I did wonder if that meant the last few folk who were watching have finally stopped, but maybe it just wasn't interesting enough to pass comment on. It was an ok race, another stupid circuit that's good for PR as it's in the city but far too narrow and twisty for much hope of racing on (and looked like a jigsaw piece on the track map) but some drivers still managed a good lunge here or there. Shame the SC neutralised the last 5 laps, I wanted to see how they would get the cars to the end. Given they finished with less than 10% energy, it surely would have been dicey if the last 5 laps were racing laps? I kind of thought at the time the series dodged a bullet as it looked to me like noone would be able to get the car home, but maybe it would have been fine. The racing has been okay, if not spectacularly quick - they've made the best of what they have. But I agree and have tired of the "concrete tunnel" tracks too, which by the time they're constructed could be anywhere in the world and you wouldn't really notice. It looked like the triple-height advertising also robbed many spectators of a good vantage point, especially as there was only one stand that I could see, which presumably negates one of the series' apparent goals of racing in cities to bring the racing closer to people. Definitely a shame they couldn't clear the crash away for even one last lap of racing. BTW, kind of disappointed I didn't watch the WTCC now, I'll have to see if it's repeated
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