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Amazed at the FOM director's decision to cut away to cars in the pit lane while Ricciardo was mid-lap with the canopy on the car.
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Amazed at the FOM director's decision to cut away to cars in the pit lane while Ricciardo was mid-lap with the canopy on the car.
I know Bernie likes F1 footage to be rare and valuable, but it's like they want to make F1 footage rare within their own product. Unbelievable. |
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I wonder if they were asked by Red Bull not to show it for too long for some reason as they didn't even seem to have the OnBoard active (Didn't get any footage from it anywhere at least).
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Indeed, I felt the same. I just cannot believe the behaviour of FOM sometimes. It's the debut of something that could fundamentally change the safety and look of an F1 car, it will be out there for a single lap, so let's cut to some cars milling about in the pitlane doing nothing very much.
I know Bernie likes F1 footage to be rare and valuable, but it's like they want to make F1 footage rare within their own product. Unbelievable. |
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Ricciardo was wearing some sort of glasses camera when he did the lap with the canopy.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1652/...c653b922_o.jpg |
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If they didn't want to show it, they wouldn't have shown it at all.
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Personally I question the logic of F1 trialling these things in public (Look at how well Quali went this year), especially as its still clearly a work in progress design. I would have had them on at a test session only, not for a single installation lap at a circuit event. They should finalise these things before they put them on show.
They need to test it at a race weekend as all the cameras etc are there, so they can have a head-start figuring out what they need to do with camera angles to make sure we see the best shots of the cars & drivers and get feedback from the broadcasters and fans on the same.This is absolutely nothing like the qualifying changes, it doesn't affect the race weekend at all - it's just a development part and there's no downside from testing it in public. That's quite apart from the fact they need to be doing this now if they want it on the car for 2017, not waiting for the next in-season testing session. |
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Ricciardo was wearing some sort of glasses camera when he did the lap with the canopy.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1652/...c653b922_o.jpg |
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Well spotted!
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If they didn't want to show it, they wouldn't have shown it at all. Personally I question the logic of F1 trialling these things in public (Look at how well Quali went this year), especially as its still clearly a work in progress design. I would have had them on at a test session only, not for a single installation lap at a circuit event. They should finalise these things before they put them on show.
Having said that, there's probably a political element to getting stuff like that on the car and visible in front of the TV cameras - it's a bit "hearts and minds" really, isn't it. They didn't waste much time responding to Ferrari running the halo. To be honest, I don't think it's bad for the show as well to have an interesting story like that appearing on a Friday. |
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They always used to have a separate commentary I think. I remember Gary Lee and Larry Rice in the early-mid 2000s and as great as they were, I can’t imagine they were employed for a US audience!
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Surely the international feed should be produced by the same teem that produces the domestic broadcast each race, (i.e. in this case, NBC?) After all, it's NBC who's shooting the pictures...
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
1958 German Grand Prix. Image © Press Association http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/8400/8415.jpg Stirling Moss leads in his Vanwall on the first lap, with team-mate and race winner Tony Brooks in second, Harry Schell (BRM) third. |
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
1958 German Grand Prix. Image © Press Association http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/8400/8415.jpg Stirling Moss leads in his Vanwall on the first lap, with team-mate and race winner Tony Brooks in second, Harry Schell (BRM) third. Thats some omen with the Red Bull test (Great find BTW!) |
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
1958 German Grand Prix. Image © Press Association http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/8400/8415.jpg Stirling Moss leads in his Vanwall on the first lap, with team-mate and race winner Tony Brooks in second, Harry Schell (BRM) third. |
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Something I've noticed is that I don't recall there been any OnBoard shots from an STR since Melbourne.
There have been OnBoards shown from every other team on the OnBoard-Mix & the 2 extra feeds on Sky as well as the world-feed but nothing from either STR. |
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Again no Damon Hill this weekend..
I know he has a contract that says he can't do every race so maybe he using his passes early this year. Still makes you wonder where he is at the moment. |
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Again no Damon Hill this weekend..
I know he has a contract that says he can't do every race so maybe he using his passes early this year. Still makes you wonder where he is at the moment. |
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That's nice!Still weird though that he has missed the first 3 out of the first 4 races.. |
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So, there were all those complaints about the pole sitter being out of the car before the end of the session and it's happened again today - another change in Qually format maybe
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I enjoyed the C4 programme today. Very nice to come in from a busy day's work to sit down in front of. I'm in two minds about the feature they did about the Red Bull windscreen device. It was, of course, excellent that there was hands-on time with it, with DC and Steve Jones standing next to it, pointing at it, touching it and with specific discussion of it - much better than just showing the FOM pictures of the FP session in which it was run. But it did feel like a Red Bull infomercial, with DC constantly saying how much better it was than the halo and what a good design it was. You felt that there should have been a bit of time spent on the halo as well for the sake of balance. And, more importantly, whether DC was extolling the virtues of the Red Bull device over the halo because he is on the payroll of Red Bull. IMHO, that kind of thing should be fully disclosed before that kind of feature goes ahead (although Steve Jones did say, "you've got involvement there" or something along those lines, so not too hard to read between the lines, I guess...)
I do think that Steve Jones is taking to it like a duck to water - he's clearly a very confident TV presenter (imagine if Suzi Perry was doing it, having to hit all those hard counts into break points - it would be embarrassing to watch) and I really like the way he's going about it. And I think the fact that it's quite a scripted pre-show (and there's not as much post-race stuff as the BBC used to give it) means that the fact he might not be the best informed F1 presenter there's ever been doesn't matter as much. He's doing the basics well, IMHO, and with plenty of chutzpah - I like that. |
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Jones is doing rather well. He is very different and I like the new perspective he brings. He has enough F1 knowledge to guide the program. I can see though how his sense of humour may annoy some people, it's a 50-50 thing, I like it but others will hate it. He is getting more comfortable by the session which is good.
Also I had a little laugh when he said the word 'climax' in regard to the end of Q3 considering the other show he has been on recently. |
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Crofy put in his place there with a question to Toto about twitter responses, hamilton targeted.
Toto responds that he is not going to respond to every lunatic that sends a twitter message. Croft looked embarrassed by the response, they had him in side by side. What a stupid question from Croft, what did he expect him to say!. |
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Why on earth did Sky PIP Vettel waking back to the pits when FOM are showing a reply of his accident, making it harder to see what actually happened?
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FOM highlighting car of interest on replay. Never seen that before.
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FOM highlighting car of interest on replay. Never seen that before.
They've also shown a live 3D map thing for pit-stops, showing the driver pitting plus the guy approaching on track behind. Their graphics system is more fragile than my router when it comes to changing/adding things though... Even still. |
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They've also shown a "Drivers out of race" graphic, which I don't think they've shown since 2003 probably :P
They've also shown a live 3D map thing for pit-stops, showing the driver pitting plus the guy approaching on track behind. Their graphics system is more fragile than my router when it comes to changing/adding things though... Even still. I think FOM could have done better with the replays to show what happened at the start, to be honest. I think Putin can bugger off as well and stopped awkwarding up the podium room. |
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