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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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Jonpollak
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb:
“By the way have not been on here for a while, my daughter now works behind the scenes producing for one of the big teams and helping many of the others in the F1 show earning a nice whack (Mum is proud for her) and loving it. If you remember some of you helped her from here when she started that journey, so bless Off to Canada F1 next Month, love it there and Japan in October, quite a cultural shock, for sure”


Congrats kirstiemcnabb !!!

Jp
FOM Fan
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Hacker Harrier:
“There's a difference between in detail and extensive detail. If the winning car gets DQ'd by the scrutineers, what's the point in spending one hour after the race saying the winning driver X had a perfect race. They could still go home with nothing.”

And? 9x out of 10 that won't happen though. By your logic, the 90% of the entire field *could* be disqualified due to a technical infringement, so we'd best not talk about anything in case we're wrong...
IMO one can still analyse a move etc. even if it's later rendered moot by a penalty/accident/whatever.
Hacker Harrier
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“IMO one can still analyse a move etc. even if it's later rendered moot by a penalty/accident/whatever.”

I've no problem with this. Some of you lot love the detailed examinations and conjecture immediately post-race. But it comes with the caveat that the race result is provisional.

I watch Motorsport for the on track action, not for the circus of talking heads and hangers on.
DanManF1
20-05-2016
No London race on the draft calendar of Formula E's third season. That certainly wouldn't help its popularity at all in this country, and I'd be surprised if ITV bothered holding on to rights if this calendar is confirmed.

http://www.motorsport.com/formula-e/...lendar-738549/
FOM Fan
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Hacker Harrier:
“I've no problem with this. Some of you lot love the detailed examinations and conjecture immediately post-race. But it comes with the caveat that the race result is provisional.

I watch Motorsport for the on track action, not for the circus of talking heads and hangers on.”

Yes, but there's a difference between legitimately explaining a move which may be unfamiliar/difficult to understand without the added benefit of key insights & analysis of replays from those in the know, and just waffling on a la Johnny Herbert. How many of us would have noticed Nico Rosberg's engine mode issues if it were not for Anthony Davidson pointing them out first on Sky?
thestig88
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“We didn't get any forward facing T-cam shots from the Ferrari from Imola to Hungary that year. We got shots from the rear facing T-cam, Nose-cam, Mirror-Cam & the one infront of the driver looking backwards but nothing from the now traditional forward T-cam.

I think it was because they had just brought in there quick change brake bias system & didn't want anyone to spot it. I also think that was one of the system's McLaren were later accused of 'borrowing' during the spy-gate scandal 2 years later.


The system was basically an extra lever along with the usual dial that allowed them to adjust the brake-bias by pre-determined intervals. If you go back & watch OnBoards from the Ferrari in 2005/2006 it was something that Schumacher in particular would constantly be adjusting from corner to corner to optimize braking force/stability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leG01_S9Mmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9--ATZR3lE

All the control boxes for the OnBoards used to be located in the right hand sidepod of the car. If thats still he case then it could be that the system got damaged when Lewis hit Nico's car.”

I remember this too, glad other noticed it! I do remember on the 2005 review dvd a brief shot from the forward facing t-cam on Schuey during the Imola race so it was definitely functional, just as you say FOM chose not to broadcast from it.
stefmeister
21-05-2016
The Formula V8 3.5 series (Formerly the WSBR 3.5 series) streamed today's race on Youtube & it was available pretty much everywhere apart from the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GXDGXRymM


Also ridiculously big accident in the FIA F3 race earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6GzpSCafg
lincsat
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“The Formula V8 3.5 series (Formerly the WSBR 3.5 series) streamed today's race on Youtube & it was available pretty much everywhere apart from the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GXDGXRymM


Also ridiculously big accident in the FIA F3 race earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6GzpSCafg”

Do you mean the Formula V8 race that was on BTESPN?
lettice
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“
Also ridiculously big accident in the FIA F3 race earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6GzpSCafg”

Saw that
Latest from the FIA

Quote:
“A serious incident has occurred during Race 1 of Round 4 of the FIA Formula 3 European Championship, involving car number 18 Zhi Cong Li (CHN), number 3 Ryan Tveter (USA) and number 5 Pedro Piquet (BRA).
Following on-track evaluation, Zhi Cong Li and Ryan Tveter were transferred to the circuit’s medical centre. One driver was initially unconscious, but both drivers were conscious on arrival at the medical centre.
Zhi Cong Li has subsequently been taken to hospital via helicopter due to possible head and back injuries. Ryan Tveter was taken to hospital by ambulance for further examination.”

FOM Fan
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“The Formula V8 3.5 series (Formerly the WSBR 3.5 series) streamed today's race on Youtube & it was available pretty much everywhere apart from the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GXDGXRymM”

What Lincsat said, BT have obviously got the stream geoblocked as they're showing it live in the UK. They're also showing EuroFormula Open, International GT Open & the DTM live today. If those also have YouTube streams, I wonder if they're also geoblocked too in the UK? I know as of last year, SRO had the YouTube & DailyMotion UK geoblock lifted for the Blacpain Series, despite it still being shown live on BT Sport (The year before that, it was GeoBlocked).
scardis
21-05-2016
Allan McNish has had to drop out of co commentary of the ePrix so Jack is on his own.
TheSubaru2012
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by scardis:
“Allan McNish has had to drop out of co commentary of the ePrix so Jack is on his own.”

Oh...
mjr
21-05-2016
What happened to Allan?
scardis
21-05-2016
Had to leave unexpectedly. Has he any connection to the people involved in the incident mentioned above?
DanManF1
21-05-2016
Seems very strange that McNish has had to leave. Hope everything's alright, obviously. Jack's doing a very good job on his own so far.
stefmeister
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“What Lincsat said, BT have obviously got the stream geoblocked as they're showing it live in the UK. They're also showing EuroFormula Open, International GT Open & the DTM live today. If those also have YouTube streams, I wonder if they're also geoblocked too in the UK? I know as of last year, SRO had the YouTube & DailyMotion UK geoblock lifted for the Blacpain Series, despite it still being shown live on BT Sport (The year before that, it was GeoBlocked).”

The DTM races are Geoblocked in the UK (Practice, Qualifying & Race OnBoards are not), The EuroFormula & GT open streams are not.

Not really much of an issue as there are ways around the GeoBlocking, Just a bit of a nuisance.
lettice
21-05-2016
Enjoyed that Berlin Formula e
Great presentation/interviewing from Nicki Shields and enjoyable commentary from Jack Nicholls.
Jack did very well on his own.
Loved Jack getting excited at end re the Parc Ferme, I think there was a bit of relief in his voice as he enjoyed the race and his one man commentary...

Just one thing, the start was so careful by all the drivers, almost looked like slow motion.
DanielF
21-05-2016
For those that haven't noticed, BT ESPN are showing Indy qualifying tonight and tomorrow. I think it's the first time it's been shown live here? Obviously there were the daily half hour updates on Sky in the mid nineties, but not live.
mjr
21-05-2016
Thought Jack did very well there in the Formula E, so well in fact that I didn't really miss there being a co-commentator. Must be a lot of pressure, especially at short notice!

Looking forward to the Indy qualifying later, and on that note a big thanks to BT Sport for making the coverage ad-free during green flag periods recently.

Finally, the latest on Li from the Formula 3 - pretty smashed up with broken heels and fractured vertebrae, but no head injury:
http://www.motorsport.com/eurof3/new...tebrae-739006/
Hacker Harrier
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“Yes, but there's a difference between legitimately explaining a move which may be unfamiliar/difficult to understand without the added benefit of key insights & analysis of replays from those in the know, and just waffling on a la Johnny Herbert. How many of us would have noticed Nico Rosberg's engine mode issues if it were not for Anthony Davidson pointing them out first on Sky?”

It does help that he's a Mercedes simulator driver. Helpful technical insight is a good thing, and is often in short supply. Inane chatter isn't.

Some of us grew up with books like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Seaso...kAAOSwaA5WjQkt A brilliant introduction to Formula 1 in print form.
DanManF1
21-05-2016
Along with the F3, there was also a huge crash at Spa in the EuroFormula race today. All the cameras seemed to miss the accident, but a YouTube video has surfaced.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwPQtyhNzQ
Frank Furt
21-05-2016
The TV coverage of DTM on ARD is so flat as to detract from the whole event.

DTM is soulless enough (or professional to a fault, delete as applicable) at the best of times, but when the lead commentator spends most of the first lap silent and Norbert Haug can barely bring himself to mention the Audis you end up with a complete borefest that disregards what little action there is on track.

I'd love to see all these quality drivers allowed to participate in some sort of BTCC-style rubfest as an end-of-term treat in equal (or equalised) equipment.
solarflare
21-05-2016
Liked the Formula E track for once, felt like it had decent flow. Some of the marshalling/race control felt a bit amateur hour though, they drive through areas for lap after lap and then they yellow flag it or whatever. And the timing graphics were pretty sporadic today.

Thought Nicholls did ok on his own but the comms definitely lacked a co-commentator to chip in.

Just on the provisional calendar - which looks quite different from previous year's with lots of new countries. But they still can't wean themselves off this stupid notion of taking 7 months to do the first half of the season and 3 months to do the second half - really, really don't get that philosophy.
Racket
21-05-2016
The Indy 500 qualifying graphics consisting of MPH on the main scrolling leaderboard but KPH for the tracking of the car currently on track is absolutely bonkers.
mjr
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by Racket:
“The Indy 500 qualifying graphics consisting of MPH on the main scrolling leaderboard but KPH for the tracking of the car currently on track is absolutely bonkers.”

Yeah that's freaking me out a bit. It makes no sense at all. Spoils the fact we have better graphics than the usual international ones.

The BT guys apologised earlier, said that's just what they're provided for the international feed.
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