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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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eladkse
29-05-2016
What annoyed me the most was jumping to replays as the VSC was ending... every single time!

Meanwhile... the F1 logo has suddenly jumped to the extreme bottom-left for the podium interview for some reason - though we had two of them for a little while.
lincsat
29-05-2016
Much better choice of on-car from Sky this time, although they couldn't resist swapping from Rosberg to Hamilton with about 8 laps left whilst Rosberg was still right behind Alonso.
stefmeister
29-05-2016
ESPN will have 100 cameras available during the Indy 500:
http://www.sportsvideo.org/2016/05/2...h-100-cameras/
DanManF1
29-05-2016
Director also missed a collision between Bottas and Gutierrez on the final lap at Rascasse.
solarflare
29-05-2016
Having heard from Hamilton in the podium ceremony, and then having heard from him in the pen talking to Rachel, is it really that critical that not only do we hear from him again with Lazenby but also that we do so by crashing into Ted's notebook?
mjr
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by solarflare:
“Having heard from Hamilton in the podium ceremony, and then having heard from him in the pen talking to Rachel, is it really that critical that not only do we hear from him again with Lazenby but also that we do so by crashing into Ted's notebook?”

The fact that Sky's own Sky Sports promotional advert only mentions F1 in the context of "watching Lewis Hamilton chase a 4th world title" should answer that, unfortunately.
stevvy1986
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by solarflare:
“Having heard from Hamilton in the podium ceremony, and then having heard from him in the pen talking to Rachel, is it really that critical that not only do we hear from him again with Lazenby but also that we do so by crashing into Ted's notebook?”

Said similar before, we don't need to hear drivers basically say the same thing 3 times. I'd rather hear from Kvyat, Nasr, etc than the same driver 3 times. It's one of the reasons I've gradually stopped watching Sky's post race coverage in recent times (subconciously at first, then deliberately).
BenFranklin
29-05-2016
Am watching the race highlights on 4 and Ben and DC have had a very poor race compared to Sky.
popeye13
29-05-2016
Agreed about the WF directing. Some really horrible choices including the Rosberg Hulkenberg final lap battle to stick with Ricciardo on his in-lap after finishing.

Replays went on too long at times and then some were barely on.
Following cars that were not in key battles while ignoring others that were, for long periods of time and yet got sod all coverage!

As for Justin Bieber, i wish someone had run him over......
DanManF1
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by BenFranklin:
“Am watching the race highlights on 4 and Ben and DC have had a very poor race compared to Sky.”

Certainly not Ben's finest moment when he thought Lewis had a problem instead of simply slowing down for the VSC.
stevvy1986
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“As for Justin Bieber, i wish someone had run him over...... ”

What on earth was he even doing so close to the podium? I suppose the only positive is we didn't have to have an interview with him at any point (not that I noticed anyway)
scardis
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Certainly not Ben's finest moment when he thought Lewis had a problem instead of simply slowing down for the VSC.”

Heard that live on Setanta and I would have thought Channel 4 might have edited that gaff out.
Still though it's not as bad as not seeing a track invasion in Singapore.
Quofan
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by Smiley433:
“Catching up on Qualifying on C4, what was wrong with the camera-person in the pit lane when Karun was doing his piece to camera? Couldn't stay still for more than a second at a time, had to keep jiggling about and altering the angles. So off-putting and nausea-inducing, I wish they wouldn't do it.”

Me and the wife noticed that as well. It was awful and completely pointless. Plus, it added absolutely nothing to the piece that Karun was doing to camera - in fact I was concentrating so much on what the camera was doing that I missed half of what Karun said.
Can't remember ever seeing that done before. Maybe the cameraman was desperate for the toilet so had to keep moving around!
Quofan
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“What on earth was he even doing so close to the podium? I suppose the only positive is we didn't have to have an interview with him at any point (not that I noticed anyway)”

I also wondered what Bieber was doing so close to the podium. Annoys me when people like him, who probably aren't even F1 fans, get these privileges just because they are famous. I noticed Louis Tomlinson and Michael Carrick were on the grid as well.
bobnick
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“What on earth was he even doing so close to the podium? I suppose the only positive is we didn't have to have an interview with him at any point (not that I noticed anyway)”

I wonder if he was Plan A for the podium interviewer, and replaced during the race when FOM came to their senses. For the non-Sky viewers, Martin found out he was doing the interviews about 40 minutes before the race finish.
Hacker Harrier
29-05-2016
For sure, #C4F1, the Monaco highlights;
#Picture_quality C4F1: 10/10 - lovely (better than the TMC video feed!).

#skinny_jeans:
There's a fundamental difference between getting down with da kids, and actually being cool and hip. I'm not impressed by the C4F1 wardrobe dept's efforts. I think it's naff, Norbert Haug in a leather jacket naff. Mr Sexbox looks like a Eurovision host looking for a new shiny floor gig. Might as well have hired Richard Madeley in full Ali G costume...

The #hashtags, skinny jeans, twitter inserts, dubstep, grime bungalow, concluding VT pop video mash up. Oh dear. At least they can't be criticised for race winner Liberace's current BFF Bieber loitering by the podium. #Cringe

#orange_squash:
Mark Webber, he's good. Possibly better than Crazy Dave at this analysis lark. Just keep his squash supply topped up and he'll be good value. I'd be tempted to swap Coulthard for Webber as colour commentator for the odd race.

#Crazy_Dave:
The VT of the drive in the old Merc SL around the circuit with Prince Albert of Monaco, was pure class. A fluff piece, but really enjoyable to watch.

Did he really say 'selfie facial' to MW?

#race_commentary:
Aside from getting excited when Lewis slowed suddenly, because they didn't spot the flashing VSC lights (for the loose sheet on the start/finish straight), Ben and DC were good today.

#Presentation_and_running_order:
Why is Mr Sexbox reading out the names of the pundits for future races.. Unless it's the next race, who cares?

No proper track guide or decent pole lap review. #Poor.

Not sure why highlights need a race recap, or a 'post race' discussion. Why not insert recorded analysis and interviews in the actual race highlights. Make the highlights into an engrossing mini movie. Why does the race coverage need to be delivered straight, it's already being cut up.

No podium interviews. Understandable, since it was "Come and get me SKY" Brundle.

C4F1 @ Monaco '16: 6.5/10

Time for the big knife...
#FOM's Dire Graphics:
I'm watching in HD on a relatively small 26" TV, The bloody tiny, thin timing text is illegible on a small-ish screen. In HD. I have to look away from the cars on the track and look hard at the text to read it. The black background transparency is way too light (insufficient contrast), so the white text is impossible to read, especially in bright sunlight. Totally awful! How Bernie's target audience of geriatric Rolex shoppers are supposed to read that data with failing or poor eyesight is anyone's guess, even on a larger screen.

They should have stuck to using DIN, or Frutiger, or used another pukka legibility typeface like Verdana in bold. I want to read the timing reasonably clearly in my peripheral vision, not constantly looking away from the action. The graphics team at FOM can get in the sea. It's sh*te. 2/10.
Quofan
30-05-2016
Originally Posted by Hacker Harrier:
“Did he really say 'selfie facial' to MW? ”

I thought he said 'champagne facial' to MW
F1-Addict
30-05-2016
Typically terrible direction from TMC today with big delays showing incidents and going to replays on restarts. Not much to add on that.

I'm sure most will remember Sky's coverage of Red Bull's engine situation last year as it made up a good chunk of their race buildups. Well, today came confirmation that Renault would supply Red Bull & Toro Rosso in 2017 & 2018 yet in 5 hours of coverage it was not mentioned once by Sky. Hard to believe they could overlook such an announcement but somehow they did.

Another 'Brundle drives an F1 car' feature today with the usual issues; regular promotion in the buildup to Sunday which ultimately delivers 90 underwhelming seconds of driving.

Herbert was dreadful again this weekend. His interview with Hamilton on the track parade was the worst I've seen in a long time. He epitomised his punditry at the end of the show; Asked whether he would penalise Raikkonen, he said in non-committal fashion, "He will probably get some form of penalty for the next race". No insight, no opinion, just words. At the very least they should swap in the underused Davidson/Di Resta in future and keep Johnny at the SkyPad instead. Bit surprised at Hill saying it was one of Hamilton's finest wins (really?) and that normal service is resumed with Nico slower than Lewis. Funny how one poor showing can negate 7 straight wins. Having said that I usually find Hill's punditry pretty decent.

As for positives, a very good race call from the Sky trio. Particularly enjoying Brundle's input lately and Ted's Notebook yesterday was one of his best (albeit cringeworthy in the extreme). Glad Sky kept the onboard mix on the red button throughout, it was very much needed today. Away from Sky F1, special praise to BT's recent efforts in motorsport with ad-free IndyCar and pretty much everything on wheels outside of F1 and BTCC shown live every weekend. Hopefully they keep up their impressive commitment to what is a fairly niche audience.
Echti
30-05-2016
Originally Posted by eladkse:
“Meanwhile... the F1 logo has suddenly jumped to the extreme bottom-left for the podium interview for some reason - though we had two of them for a little while.”

I believe FOM was in responsible for the podium interview segment (filmed also by them and not TMC) so they switched to the pitlane feed for that.
_SpeedRacer_
30-05-2016
I was pleased Brundle corrected Crofty on the VSC restart - the cars behind the leaders will appear to be quicker because they will do more of the lap at the time of the restart at racing speed. So the guys behind the leader didn't suddenly gain 4 seconds Crofty! They lost that time on the lap the VSC was called for the same reason.
bobnick
30-05-2016
I think someone had pulled them up on that, as they managed to interpret the speed of the inters wrongly after the earlier VSC saw people coming out of the pits setting faster laps.

Originally Posted by Hacker Harrier:
“I'm watching in HD on a relatively small 26" TV, The bloody tiny, thin timing text is illegible on a small-ish screen.”

Hey, the tower slides in now from the left, no idea why you'd moan

The Channel 4 dress sense has been a bit surprising - normally it's Sky Sports who go for the dated 'blazer brigade' style, but the Sky F1 team are normally more relaxed than Channel 4.
chrisr21
30-05-2016
Originally Posted by Quofan:
“I also wondered what Bieber was doing so close to the podium. Annoys me when people like him, who probably aren't even F1 fans, get these privileges just because they are famous. I noticed Louis Tomlinson and Michael Carrick were on the grid as well.”

To be fair to Michael Carrick, he is actually a big F1 fan. When Ted was interviewing on him on Saturday, he asked him whether he was on the Notebook. Obviously a fan.
scardis
30-05-2016
I wonder if FOM asked Eddie Jordan if he wanted to do the podium interviews?
Like him or loathe him he does tend to be a good PR machine for F1 when he conducts those interviews.
stevvy1986
30-05-2016
Originally Posted by chrisr21:
“To be fair to Michael Carrick, he is actually a big F1 fan. When Ted was interviewing on him on Saturday, he asked him whether he was on the Notebook. Obviously a fan.”

Yeah I think he's been seen at a few races in the past. Plus I'd also say "it's Monaco, celebs are bound to be on the grid before the race" because if there's one place you're likely to see a celeb, it's Monaco. That's entirely different to having someone like Justin Bieber so close to the podium post race. If he was going to be the post race podium interviewer originally then I'd have switched off there and then, particularly after the stupid nonsense about Hamilton "crushing it".
popeye13
30-05-2016
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“Yeah I think he's been seen at a few races in the past. Plus I'd also say "it's Monaco, celebs are bound to be on the grid before the race" because if there's one place you're likely to see a celeb, it's Monaco. That's entirely different to having someone like Justin Bieber so close to the podium post race. If he was going to be the post race podium interviewer originally then I'd have switched off there and then, particularly after the stupid nonsense about Hamilton "crushing it".”

hearing him saying "You crushed that shit dawg" was enough for me to want to reach into the screen and end the toss pot!
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