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Old 07-06-2016, 10:36
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I can't say I see the appeal.

If they're broadcasting a 360 degree image and you're only looking at part of it, then either the whole image is going to have to be much much higher resolution (and therefore require much higher bandwidth), or the bit your looking at will be much lower resolution.

Sounds like the sort of thing you'd buy, try once, and then not bother with again.
At least the thing with a 360-degree image is that it doesn't neccessarily require the VR hardware. You can look at it on your phone & move the camera around by your finger (or on a PC with a mouse). Which is what Formula E (and the FOM/Sky Facebook vids) use.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:40
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I don't know if anyone saw this (from racing-circuits.info) about Monaco?

The future of the Monaco Grand Prix has been called into question after it was revealed that a property development company plans to build on the area currently used for the TV compound at the race. Consisting of 42 apartments, offices, shops, bars and two museums as well as a new a pedestrian promenade the futuristic-looking development is scheduled to break ground later this year.

“If this development goes ahead, it would automatically lead to the end of the formula one grand prix. I guarantee it," Michel Boeri, president of the Automobile Club de Monaco, told Nice-Matin. While discussions about alternative locations for the TV compound have been investigated with the developer no solution has been found. “No TV compound, no grand prix” Boeri stated unequivocally.

It seems likely that a solution will be found but if one is not and the development goes ahead it could be that 2016 will see the last ever Monaco Grand Prix.

Meanwhile at the other end of the circuit work on another much larger development has begun. Significant land reclamation work is being undertaken just off the shore near Portier corner and it has been suggested that this could lead to an extension of the track. There have been explicit plans over the years such as the Monte-Carlo 'Sea Land' proposal which featured a 1km extension to the circuit, but the current development does not appear to have any such plans.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:04
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I don't know if anyone saw this (from racing-circuits.info) about Monaco?
They could always use or rent out a yacht that week.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:25
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They could always use or rent out a yacht that week.
I highly doubt the combined production crews, offices & equipment of tens of broadcasting companies could all fit in a yacht (or even a yacht each)

Actually Joe Saward has said they'll just find some other TV location and the race will continue, and he doesn't understand why Michel Boeri is acting like it's the end of the world.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:32
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Monaco has a football stadium doesn't it? Surely they'd have room for TV companies?
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:55
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For #IndyCar's return to Road America on June 26th @bencommentator and I will be doing the full race commentary. Can't wait! #BTSMotorsport
Nothing against Keith or Ben but I’d rather watch Indycar with the domestic commentary feed.

Back when we used to get an international commentary feed for Indycar on sky it was always frustrating because we were never getting all of the information that the domestic feed was providing. We never used to get team radio, we never used to hear many of the pit reports or team/driver interviews (Even when we were getting the pictures) & there were often things that were happening in terms of potential car problems or penalty’s that we never found out about until post race because the international commentary crew never had access to it.

The stuff BT have been providing during the american ad-breaks has been fine, but i still greatly prefer getting the on-site commentary because they have far more information available & the NBC team always do a great job in getting that information across to the viewer & its always great to hear PT & T-Bell give there insights into various things because neither are afraid to say what they feel.
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Old 07-06-2016, 13:01
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Sky has been doing their own commentary on International Cricket for Years. Although it's usually at the stadium, it's just not the same as a proper host broadcaster commentary. Off-tube is going to be much worse IMO.
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Old 07-06-2016, 13:29
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Re VR, to be honest I expect it to be like 3D. A bit of excitement, then it fades away and nobody really cares about it any more. Certainly watching films in 3D I don't think "wow" and think it looks amazing. If I watch the same film in 2D it doesn't change the experience for me, and to be honest I doubt VR would either. I'm more than happy just sat watching the F1 on the TV as normal. I see no real reason for VR personally.
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Old 07-06-2016, 16:05
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Nothing against Keith or Ben but I’d rather watch Indycar with the domestic commentary feed.
Is there any reason why they're doing the commentary for this one in particular? Why can't they take the NBC/ESPN US commentary like the other races?
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Old 07-06-2016, 16:16
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TV Sports Markets twitter has article (unencrypted) on Sky F1 deal - doesn't give rights value but does contain various background information.

Says that FOM could have earned more from an exclusive deal with Sky Deutschland but rejected that option.

https://twitter.com/TVSportsMarkets
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Old 07-06-2016, 16:32
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^ Text below

Was it purely the switch to pay-television that drove the fee up?
FOM needed a premium to countenance taking Formula One off UK free-to-air television for the first time, but the major driver was the intense competition between Sky and rival pay-television broadcaster BT Sport. Sky is the existing pay-television rights-holder and values the property very highly because of the wealthy demographic it attracts and - to a lesser extent - because the sport is an excellent test-bed for new developments in broadcasting tech, on which the broadcaster prides itself. BT made a serious offer for exclusive rights to FOM early in 2016. FOM is thought to have informed Sky, prompting its own counter offer.
And the free-to-air broadcasters?
They were never really in play. We understand FOM did not approach them as it was clear that a) BT and Sky were seeking exclusivity only, and b) the free-to-air broadcasters' budgets wouldn't stretch that far.
Free-to-air deals have been a priority for Fl. Are those days gone? It would claim otherwise, though its clear that a split pay-television/free-to-air arrangement is increasingly common in the sport's major markets. Huge bids for pay-TV exclusivity have been turned down -most notably in Germany, where FOM would have earned much more from a deal with Sky Deutschland than it did from splitting the rights between the pay-television broadcaster and commercial broadcaster RTL.
Is it sensible for Sky to pay so much?
Some sources said most serious Fl fans will already have a Sky subscription so they can watch every race. From that perspective Sky's investment is more to keep a narrow but loyal audience away from BT. Others disagree, saying that not having full exclusivity probably prevented some viewers from taking the leap.

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Old 07-06-2016, 20:29
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They could always use or rent out a yacht that week.
I remember when ITV did that.
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Old 08-06-2016, 04:25
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I remember when ITV did that.
Think they have all done it at some point, then realised it was a bad idea.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:53
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Actually, given that all the TV companies (from Ted's notebook) seem to use shipping containers for all their production equipment, why not get in a big freight tanker for them all to use?
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Old 08-06-2016, 11:24
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I highly doubt the combined production crews, offices & equipment of tens of broadcasting companies could all fit in a yacht (or even a yacht each)

Actually Joe Saward has said they'll just find some other TV location and the race will continue, and he doesn't understand why Michel Boeri is acting like it's the end of the world.
TV equipment could obviously go anywhere, and presumably there's no real reason why it all has to be in the same place either. Also technology tends to get smaller.

Assuming the ruling family are in favour of the GP then clearly nobody is going to be allowed to do anything that would compromise it.
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Old 08-06-2016, 13:01
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Actually, given that all the TV companies (from Ted's notebook) seem to use shipping containers for all their production equipment, why not get in a big freight tanker for them all to use?
Don't forget they need a Fiber connection and stable Satellite uplinks as well, may not be practical from a floating platform, especially in rough conditions.
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Old 08-06-2016, 13:24
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Don't forget they need a Fiber connection and stable Satellite uplinks as well, may not be practical from a floating platform, especially in rough conditions.
I was joking.
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Old 08-06-2016, 15:28
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To be fair, a platform in the harbour or just outside for the TV crews to be based on is not really a bad idea. Any sat dishes requiring stability could be very easily be anchored to the bed which shouldn't be that deep close to the shore.
Personally I would miss this "race" as it's not generally a good race as such. I get that the skill is driving without hitting the walls, and I'm sure that for the drivers it's fun & a real test, but for viewers at home, relatively dull in general.
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Old 09-06-2016, 14:47
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No Martin Brundle in Canada for Sky.
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Old 09-06-2016, 14:49
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"medical procedure"
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Old 09-06-2016, 14:49
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No Martin Brundle in Canada for Sky.
In case anyone wonders why, it's because he underwent a medical procedure last week
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Old 09-06-2016, 14:57
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The full tweet from Martin:

"Had a medical procedure last week, went extremely well. I won't be in Montreal but my excellent @SkySportsF1 colleagues will. Every lap live"

I guess Paul will be filling in
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Old 09-06-2016, 15:09
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MB is never one to hide when he has been bored.
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Old 09-06-2016, 15:09
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Such a shame. I'm a huge Brundle fan. This'll be the first race he's missed since Hungary 2008, I think.

Presumably if the medical procedure has gone well, as he's said it has, then he'll still be at Le Mans next weekend.
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Old 09-06-2016, 15:22
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therefore missing 2 races
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