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The highlights on Ch 4 were dire. On from 10.40 to 12.45. So many ads. it was gone 11pm when the race started, then seemed to stop for more ads after about 8 mins, progress was so slow with so many breaks. Gave up at midnight when I think it was barely half way through the race, very disappointing.
Your last sentence is a bit of an exaggeration - at midnight they were well over half way and the race finished on the highlights at 12.12AM (know because I texted a mate at the time). Quote:
Originally Posted by aurichie That's the sort of comment that gets you laughed off Planet F1, let alone here...Just seen the highlights. Hamilton should have been DQ'd for a move that could have killed Nico Rosberg. Thought the way he rejoined the circuit was dangerous, but that was entirely down to Rosberg himself. |
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But yes, bizarre that this wasn't picked up - either everyone just assumed it was as per Monaco, or it's more correct to say that the "you've got to use both compounds" rule doesn't really apply in the same simplistic way any more post 3 tyre compound change.
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Have I got this right? Baku Qualifying starts at 2pm BST exactly as LeMans starts. And the race starts at 2pm exactly when LeMans finishes.
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Have I got this right? Baku Qualifying starts at 2pm BST exactly as LeMans starts. And the race starts at 2pm exactly when LeMans finishes.
![]() Personally I think it's rather arrogant of the ACO to schedule Le Mans at the same weekend all the time & refusing to budge if a scheduling conflict comes up. I don't see why Le Mans HAS to be on the 3rd weekend in June. Saying that, it would be nice if both sides of a scheduling dispute could accommodate (shifting things by half an hour either way) in the event of a scheduling issue. I don't like this particular clash either, as i'd like to watch both events live. I suspect I shall miss qualifying (as that's all pretty standard nowadays anyway) and watch the race on a 2nd screen while Le Mans is finishing. I don't need to see the podiums of that anyway. |
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It seems like they've done it in the worst possible way. Running the GP earlier would have been better, or even just a 15-minute delay would have at least meant being able to see the start and finish of Lemans before hopping over to F1.
The last time it clashed was Canada 2011 IIRC. 24 hours of Lemans then 4 hours of F1. Good weekend. |
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Simple solution is for people to watch the start of Le Mans live for an hour or so then watch their recording of the F1 quali then back to Le Mans live off and on to the end then watch their recording of the F1 race. If you like, pretend Baku is an evening race.
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Le Mans isn't always the 3rd weekend in June, but it is always the 2nd or 3rd weekend. Personally I see no reason to change from those 2 weekends (technically a clash with Canada would've been better as it'd have only clashed with qualifying, but more on that later).
Re Petit Le Mans and WEC, well, timewise I don't think there was a clash, but obviously you can only drive in 1 place at once. Re Le Mans clashing with Canada (or certainly as in 2005, the infamous US Grand Prix), while it's ideal not to clash at all, I think I'd rather it clash with qualifying than the race (which it never clashed with). Same as Monaco and the Indy 500, both big races but never clashed timewise, just in terms of the date. |
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Channel 4 showing FP2 on More 4 for Azerbaijan due to clash with horse racing.
Likely reason they didn't pick Canada (first time not FTA for some years) is that it's in peak time and they don't "main" HD channels like the BBC do. So why not use 4Seven we ask... I still need to see more post race follow up from them. 4Seven is an option, but it still has a fixed schedule whereas the BBC had flexibility with 601 as Sky do with their F1 channel. |
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Likely reason they didn't pick Canada (first time not FTA for some years) is that it's in peak time and they don't "main" HD channels like the BBC do. So why not use 4Seven we ask...
Also 4Seven is a repeats channel, so they probably don't want to confuse audiences by airing new/live content exclusively on there. |
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Not that concerned with clashes, it often happens that way and always nice to have so much live choice.
For me it will be the f1 with sky on tv and iPad (sky sports app race control), Le Mans official app live on phablet with radio le mans commentary if needed, Le Mans eurosport on a tablet with sky go and also the BTCC on my windows tablet, which has the first race live at 2.30pm, all together live on those multiple screens. Not much other sport at that time (the euro football matches are not jumping out on Sunday), so that lot will be fine. Do normally multi-task watching multiple sports even on a non motorsport weekend. So easy to do these days. Not seeing the issue. |
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Simple solution is for people to watch the start of Le Mans live for an hour or so then watch their recording of the F1 quali then back to Le Mans live off and on to the end then watch their recording of the F1 race. If you like, pretend Baku is an evening race.
![]() Unfortunately recording it means watching C4 as I can't record NowTV. Grrrr. I suppose there's also C4+1. There'll always be clashes with something, but when LeMans is once a year and is the biggest single event in motorsport putting the other biggest event in motorsport (F1) on at exactly the same time is particularly dumb. |
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Well, yes, it's very funny talking about F1 trying to avoid clashes with the Euros when it can't even avoid a clash with other major motorsport events.
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Well, yes, it's very funny talking about F1 trying to avoid clashes with the Euros when it can't even avoid a clash with other major motorsport events.
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The WEC '16 calendar came out before the F1 did, IIRC. Baku was placed to clash.
Bernard didn't want his drivers jumping ship and giving publicity to the sportscar championship that was being used as a stick to beat F1 with. Racer.com - 'WEC: No reason for Baku/Le Mans date clash, according to Craig' Racer.com - 'WEC: F1/Le Mans clash an "attack" on WEC, series boss says' |
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The WEC '16 calendar came out before the F1 did, IIRC. Baku was placed to clash.
Bernard didn't want his drivers jumping ship and giving publicity to the sportscar championship that was being used as a stick to beat F1 with. Racer.com - 'WEC: No reason for Baku/Le Mans date clash, according to Craig' Racer.com - 'WEC: F1/Le Mans clash an "attack" on WEC, series boss says'
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Hopefully the WEC will delay it's calendar to after the 2016 F1 one then
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Hopefully the WEC will delay it's calendar to after the 2016 F1 one then
![]() Regardless of what F1 does though, LM24 will be June 17th next year. If F1 is stupid enough to have a clash, it is up to them. It is only F1's drivers who suffer. |
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The date for the 2017 Le Mans 24h will be published next week, so F1 will have to hurry if it's going to get a calendar published before that.
Regardless of what F1 does though, LM24 will be June 17th next year. If F1 is stupid enough to have a clash, it is up to them. It is only F1's drivers who suffer. |
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Andy Blackmore's Dunlop 2016 Le Mans 24h PDF Spotter Guide download page. Already on PDF version 2.
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Andy Blackmore's Dunlop 2016 Le Mans 24h PDF Spotter Guide download page. Already on PDF version 2.
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WEC is stupid then to let its rivals know all its plans so soon....
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WEC is stupid then to let its rivals know all its plans so soon....
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The guide on club arnage is worth downloading for anyone not aware of it. http://www.clubarnage.com/caguide/download.html
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At least the Le Mans race coverage on Eurosport is solid on ES1 this year rather than jumping between channels throughout the event. Makes it rather easier to record that as well as the WSB coverage on ES2.
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Is it a rival championship? Before Tony George intervened in 1995, Indycar used to be described as a rival to F1, even CART was with it's short lived expansion into Europe. What are the rivals to F1?
F1: Open-Wheel World Championship WEC: Sports Cars & GT Cars World Championship WRC: Rally Cars World Championship MotoGP: Motorbike World Championship. There are other official World championships of course (WTCC, WSBK, WRX) but they're of a level below the above (i.e. GT cars are basically souped up touring cars if you ask me). |
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